M76 - Dungeons and Dragons - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

couple pages behind, bozo and neon are doing the same shit as the last time they each played

Hey what do you know my town game is EXACTLY the same.

Is that something we should consider good or bad?

[rdrivera2005]

For bozos survey, I think scum would likely end up with vig, vengeful, backup and maybe hooker. Hard to pass up roles that kill and expedite the game imo

Mafia role predictions:
bozo: hooker, vengeful, day vig, universal backup
Rumi Tobari: hooker, day vig, universal backup, fake inventor
brainbomb: day vig, universal backup, strongman, tracker
worcej: hooker, day vig, universal backup, fake inventor
DemonRHK: day vig, universal backup, jailor, odd cop
dargorygel: day vig, universal backup, fake inventor, double vote
pyxxy: day vig, hooker, universal backup, tracker
damo: hooker, vengeful, day vig, tracker
Tom: hooker, vengeful, day vig, universal backup

Those who have not participated are now in the minority.

DayVig, Hooker, Backup and Even Night Cop.

This is were I am on catching up (page 19) meaning I am 12 pages behind still.

[bo_sox48]

“honestly would wager 1 scum at most in the 0/1 posters (hellenic/CFox/bo_sox/rdrivera) but that's a blind guess.”

BARF

somewhat second this, because I imagine scum are actually more inclined to be active this game due to the N0

Disagree with firsting and seconding this. What the fuck is the point of a 24 hour N0? This is an obviously scumsided setup - the only things a 24 N0 accomplishes in tandem with a 24 hour day phase are limiting the town’s ability to interact in the most active portion of the game, make the town bored because they have to wait an entire day to actually start playing, and give the scumteam time to plan how they are going to blend in, which roles/players they’re most willing to bus and which they’ll save, and how they’re going to avoid trouble. They only have half a usual day to get through before they can reconvene again! They would be foolish not to take advantage of this awful mechanic that favors them in several ways but particularly makes it very likely that they get through D1 without issue if they simply are able to blend in for 24 hours. The only way we counteract that is by picking out inactive players in the first 24 hours and picking the right one, which is pretty much impossible when you have assholes like me who do things like eat dinner and watch a movie before going to bed instead of being here right at day start and don’t actually see the thread until 18 hours have gone by.

[Princess Neon]

the dichotomy here between neon and wolfu is interesting

wolfu taking the stances that surveys in light games on other forums are more often town indicstive behaviors which ignores that bozo does a survey every game no matter what his alignment is. this is not a bad thing on wolfu but shows a lack of meta on bozo and that he shouldnt be given any kind of pass for making a survey since he makes a survey every game no matter the game size or his align.

and then theres neon who keeps pushing this angle despite several people telling her this is not wolfy of bozo and this is his shtick. Choosing to lean on personal experience that when players focus on mech they tend to be wolves.

neon didnt dargorygel basically spend most of his posts focused on mech? why is bozo worse or better?

and then wolfu is starting to seem a bit strained and reaching just a tad when trying to continue to concoct reasons for why bozo is town. the push on Tom, claiming someone voting tom was a busser. then bozo votes a bunch of zero posters. town bozo is a rock and is very non reactive from what I recall. I remember games screaming at him in all caps and getting no reply when he was town. he just doesnt care usually what people think and once he thinks someone is scum he tends to stand by that beleif.

thats why its very weird to see such a performative reactive and bizarre bozo here. he doesnt usually do any of the things he does other than his habitual need to use gallup polling services.

tldr: I can absolutely see wolfu and neon are town taking opposing stances. What I cannot see as clearly is a world where this bozo is a town clown

Honest answer? I've barely noticed Darg where as Bozo has been VERY loud

[Rumi Tobari]

couple pages behind, bozo and neon are doing the same shit as the last time they each played

Hey what do you know my town game is EXACTLY the same.

Is that something we should consider good or bad?

I'm disagreeing with Neon's statement because she definitely feels more aggressive this game. Actually kind of town-reading her from how she seems like an entirely different person.

So maybe a good thing?

[bo_sox48]

In fairness he forgot last game started until about D5

I think it was more he didn't have time until D5. I remember this whole promise to tiebreak a D1 vote he didn't keep. Not because he forgot, he totally remembered the game was a thing, but just didn't have time. Rdr from my limited experience seems like someone who has a busier schedule than the rest of us.

We need Maniac back in here to force us all into documenting an alibi every time we leave the thread for five minutes so he can solve the game based on who is lying.

[Princess Neon]

couple pages behind, bozo and neon are doing the same shit as the last time they each played

I didn’t follow last game. Were either scum?

neon was but i believe the specific thing i'm thinking of (refusing to answer a question about experience) was on principle more than anything else.

You would be correct

[rdrivera2005]

And I have to cast a provisory vote

##vote Bona - just a feeling

[bo_sox48]

read damo's past games and he's, uh, unconventional to say the least

not enugh data to judge but gut still says town

Have you actually read damo’s past games?

[Princess Neon]

Want it More. I call it Will and Motivation but WiM is the term most people use. Basically how hard you care about the game or whatever. I'm not saying I'm going to throw I'm saying I have no faith in myself to make the right decisions right now because of recent experiences and so my drive for mafia is low and my self image within the context of the game is low.

meh lol i want to say this is town given it's coming before she's gotten any serious pressure

i have gotten through an entire game moping and AtEing as mafia when i had literally nothing else but looking at her other game on here that people were talking about i don't think it's the approach she chooses to take

Is NAI and true don't read alignment into it

[wolfu]

How do you have a read on everyone but one player within 24 hours of game start

i play a lot of mafia and i like to push myself (although you'll note i had a category for the people with no content so it's not like i have reads on everyone)

i've played 12/12 games with 60 players where i try to give a read on most of the game by the end of day 1

partly it's just a thing i like to do for myself because i like to see how accurate i can be (my results are usually decent) but i also find it more useful to have a big picture perspective

[bo_sox48]

“honestly would wager 1 scum at most in the 0/1 posters (hellenic/CFox/bo_sox/rdrivera) but that's a blind guess.”

BARF

somewhat second this, because I imagine scum are actually more inclined to be active this game due to the N0

I agree but maybe it would be more extreme in either direction. Even more posting in order to seem engaged + even more lurking than a normal lurk. Whatever that means, idk how to lurk more than just not posting.

To be clear. No shade to RDR as I think he's behaving pretty normally. Last game he posted more on D1 but that was because he showed up for EOD, iirc, as I expect him to do here too.

Why did you feel the need to explicitly avoid shading rdr?

[Rumi Tobari]

In fairness he forgot last game started until about D5

I think it was more he didn't have time until D5. I remember this whole promise to tiebreak a D1 vote he didn't keep. Not because he forgot, he totally remembered the game was a thing, but just didn't have time. Rdr from my limited experience seems like someone who has a busier schedule than the rest of us.

We need Maniac back in here to force us all into documenting an alibi every time we leave the thread for five minutes so he can solve the game based on who is lying.

I want him here. Just so I can stare at the thread for 36 hours straight, report my presence in 20 minute increments, and make him wonder "what the fuck".

[BesharamSabi]

Wolfu gets N1 often for accurate reads.

[bo_sox48]

town reads
brainbomb
Rumi Tobari
Princess Neon


lean town (in order of confidence)
Bonatogether
DemonRHK
Tom Bombadil
damo666
worcej
BesharamSabi


true null/no content
Hellenic Riot
CrimsonFox
bo_sox48
Rdrivera2005

idk lol
bozotheclown


lean scum
pyxxy
dargorygel


the rdrivera thing brainbomb pointed out feels like a token scum move, to go back and re-use an opener faking not knowing the game started. not sure i'd want to yeet someone over it on day 1 though

doesn't really feel like day 1 of a 17 player game so far, some of that probably owed to 4/17 having almost no content, some of it probably due to the shortened phase length without added urgency

honestly would wager 1 scum at most in the 0/1 posters (hellenic/CFox/bo_sox/rdrivera) but that's a blind guess.

didn't really like how dargory responded to pressure at all

How do you have a read on everyone but one player within 24 hours of game start

He's my friend. Thats how he plays.

If I asked your friend to explain their reads in detail do you think they would be able to give a cogent answer for each and every one of them?

[Princess Neon]

##Vote bozotheclown

Vibes

I gave you a chance to push your Tom wagon and this is your response?

admittedly i don't like this

Lol why?

[BesharamSabi]

How do you have a read on everyone but one player within 24 hours of game start

He's my friend. Thats how he plays.

If I asked your friend to explain their reads in detail do you think they would be able to give a cogent answer for each and every one of them?

Probably have one liners but sure. I can show you games where has done this numerous times.

[wolfu]

read damo's past games and he's, uh, unconventional to say the least

not enugh data to judge but gut still says town

Have you actually read damo’s past games?

i mean i used your (extremely nifty) bot to look at some of the older games and skimmed the posts to see if he has any really obvious patterns in his play

did so because people mentioned him getting D1'ed in your last game and wanted to see if he's a common misyeet or not

[pyxxy]

“honestly would wager 1 scum at most in the 0/1 posters (hellenic/CFox/bo_sox/rdrivera) but that's a blind guess.”

BARF

somewhat second this, because I imagine scum are actually more inclined to be active this game due to the N0

Disagree with firsting and seconding this. What the fuck is the point of a 24 hour N0? This is an obviously scumsided setup - the only things a 24 N0 accomplishes in tandem with a 24 hour day phase are limiting the town’s ability to interact in the most active portion of the game, make the town bored because they have to wait an entire day to actually start playing, and give the scumteam time to plan how they are going to blend in, which roles/players they’re most willing to bus and which they’ll save, and how they’re going to avoid trouble. They only have half a usual day to get through before they can reconvene again! They would be foolish not to take advantage of this awful mechanic that favors them in several ways but particularly makes it very likely that they get through D1 without issue if they simply are able to blend in for 24 hours. The only way we counteract that is by picking out inactive players in the first 24 hours and picking the right one, which is pretty much impossible when you have assholes like me who do things like eat dinner and watch a movie before going to bed instead of being here right at day start and don’t actually see the thread until 18 hours have gone by.

I wanted to +1 this post because I agree that this setup seems scum-sided but I can't relate to eating dinner, that's just weird and I don't know why bo would bring up something like that with no context.

[Princess Neon]

What on earth are you talking about?

Your pushes have been opportunistic and you are using the fact people didn't participate in bozo little poll as a basis of your scum hunting when it's NAI.

Also you have been instigating shit.

I think you'll find that in time the survey will be very illuminating. I am not going to explain why yet. Forcing participation is beneficial. That is why I am only willing to vote non-participants.

Come one come all to kill the townies for no reason because they refused to waste their time