MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

or on any non-celaph wagon

[Bonatogether]

bo should hop off as well

[worcej]

I feel pretty confident celaph is the scum here. The delays in peek, the peek result he claimed, and CC screams a panicked scum trying to sow confusion. I don’t see the towny nature for why he would wait to CC as bleeder and miss EoN to peek.

I waited to claim bleeder because I did not think rdr would. In my experience, people softing PR tend to be VT trying to bait kills. If I can wait and let a VT whose not widely townread eat a NK, that's immensely valuable.

As for peeking, I wanted to solve the gamestate now to get info where the vote tags were moving and thought that we'd have ghug, rdr, and my peeks to do that.

I mean it was pretty clear from the night conversation that claims were due at EoN to start narrowing this down. This includes peeks, which people said to do during night.

Also, you were a focus point of analysis for potential scum, so why would you sit on claiming and only utilize it as a CC? I see the potential for you to be town here, but it would require me to now slot you as dumb town in future games.

[worcej]

Would it matter if bo moves off if I move myself? The goal is to figure out who has the zero vote and narrow down who has the two vote right?

[Bonatogether]

Would it matter if bo moves off if I move myself? The goal is to figure out who has the zero vote and narrow down who has the two vote right?

i think i would prefer you to stay on just so scum can't tie it at :59

[Bonatogether]

we can discuss best options over the next day though

[ghug]

Yeah I think I'd rather have bo off than worcej.

We could also hammer in the next hour if bo comes back.

[Chaqa]

##vote chaqa

[Chaqa]

Are we hammering?

We need more hammers

[Chaqa]

Wtf

I don't want to get shit on by bo anymore for thinking he's scum, I'm checked out until new info happens.

I don’t care if you think I’m scum. I think you’re scum, and between trying to get PRs to soft in a roleswap or just straight up out to you throughout the game and now trying to avoid having to vote for your partner in a counterclaim it seems pretty obvious from my perspective.

This is such a vapid misrepresentation of what I was doing. I didn't try to get PRs to swap anything. I was trying to bait a nightkill. I never asked for CC, and everyone like Eden and ghug pretty much could understand what I had been doing, even if they disagreed with it. You're just making shit up.

If you were town you’d either scumread me by merit or scumread me by POE if you townread worcej but not distract from the 50/50 shot we have today, which in my opinion is actually a lot better than 50/50 because your partner celaph sucks at counterclaiming. You’d be all over killing me tomorrow. But that’s not what you’re doing because you know that worcej isn’t getting miskilled and you know your literal only chance at winning this game is keeping celaph alive today. That’s why you’re desperate and throwing tantrums, and now shutting down because it’s not working.

This is exactly what I'm doing. Like, you continuously and deliberately ignore any posts I make that don't fit your narrative. Like, there's even a progression I've made on you over the entire game, from town reading to scum reading:

Anyway where I'm currently at is:
Bonatogether
bo_sox48
snowy801
celaph
Chaqa
ghug
Jamiet99uk
President Eden
Princess Neon
pyxxy
rdrivera2005
Rumi Tobari
Vecna
worcej

This is where I'm at.

Alpha Town - confirmed or presumed town
ghug
Jamiet99uk

Beta Town - good town vibes
Bonatogether
President Eden
Rumi Tobari
worcej

Sigma Town - null or odd people
bo_sox48
celaph
Vecna

Ligma Town - gettem
Hamilton Brian
rdrivera2005

I'm pretty sold on the scumteam being exactly within Hamilton, Vecna, bo, rivera, celaph.

Bo, celaph, Hamilton, and rivera are all vaguely my PoE.

Whichever of you two is the strongman fucked up and used the power on Jamie even though you didn’t actually have to, hence your insistence that the strongman power has been used even though a VT as you claim to be would not know whether or not that’s the case.

Shame you killed PE after he openly said he’d be scumreading you if you turned out not to be doc. It would be fun to see him lambast you.

##VOTE Celaph

You’re tomorrow.

Yeah, and if I know Eden, he's probably in the God Thread laughing about how he shaded me with his dying breath and I'm town, because if I die he'll probably blame himself for it for a moment before blaming me for playing so weird lol

The Strongman would of course be used by now, probably on the night they killed Jamie, because they *needed* him to die there. You're better than this.

[Chaqa]

hi rumi!

what do you think?

Well... now that I'm awake and not just sitting in the topic. (and also I admit I burned out pretty hard but will do my best for you all)

Alex Murphy?

I'm dyslexic. Axel Foley.

I have learned that I am now AXEL FOLEY (Vanilla)!

I think Celaph is probably the bus driver.

I think Celaph talked himself into a corner that is verifiably false if rdr is being truthful about the nametag, and at this point I feel in agreement that Celaph is scum and that his reads feel more concerned with participation than solving.

Also, I feel reasonably convinced that Chaqa is the other member of the scumteam, in part because Chaqa's credibility score in my eyes has significantly dropped and when I'm at a point where I can no longer trust anything Chaqa says at face value, I find "lies because scum" to be a more plausible explanation than "lies for memes"
##vote celaph
##end

You just don't know me that well :D

[Chaqa]

I expect Chaqa to have it given celaph was the chosen counterclaim, so he should be voting for celaph.

Presumably you somehow don’t scumread Chaqa right now given you think the remaining mafia is bussing, so you either think worcej or, still playing reactively, I am the last one? Feel free to miss once, but don’t miss Chaqa twice.

I don't know at this point. I thought Chaqa voted Celaph, but he is voting you which is a bizarre choice.
I expect Chaqa to bus hard if he is scum with Celaph based in his past games but maybe he saw that's no way to win if Celaph is the bus driver with 2x tag. At this point I think it's between Chaqa, you and Worcej the last one, probably in this order.

Votes don't matter til EoD

[Chaqa]

There's no way you guys want this to go another 24 hours.

[ghug]

There's no way you guys want this to go another 24 hours.

Looks like it happened.

[Chaqa]

There's no way you guys want this to go another 24 hours.

Looks like it happened.

Yeah. Fucking pathetic.

Im done with this game. I’ll come back to cast a vote next phase, but I’m tired of scum players being absolute assholes and then not caring. Flum did it to me several games back and I still dont particularly want to talk to him ever again

[ghug]

To be fair to bo, he's a consistently shitty person, so I'm not sure it's about his alignment.

[ghug]

And I know Flum felt pretty bad about that after he did it.

[Bonatogether]

irritating

can we just get this day over with?

[worcej]

irritating

can we just get this day over with?

##end

Hopefully it happens?

[ghug]

irritating

can we just get this day over with?

##end

Hopefully it happens?

DO NOT FUCKING HAMMER UNTIL BO MOVES

Jesus Christ