Tiny Hunt I Game Thread

[yavuzovic]

Fellow villagers something Vecna said makes me pretty damn certain he is village. We are close to getting this solved.

You see what I see, that's good.

[yavuzovic]

I'll vote for Jamie, something made me uneasy about his play.
##vote Jamiet99uk
Trust me here. And Vecna is townier than me, stop voting him.

[damo666]

I think scumream is rdr squiggs worcej

[y2kjbk]

After some needed sleep and rereading, I'm finding squigs much more suspicious than I originally did. He acts too agreeable. A big blind spot I have in scum hunting I think is that I attribute brashness with scumminess in this game since it seems to be an attempt to cloud clear discussion, but when I'm town I yell all over the place to feel out people's reactions in a similar fashion and when I'm scum I lurk to a fault while chiming in with something level-headed when I can, so it's kinda hitting me finally how exactly my reading of people goes awry all the time. A corollary to that thought is that I'm back to leaning town on Vecna.

[rdrivera2005]

I am also going to discuss this with you all right now:

If Vecna is scum and you lynch a town (currently trying to wagon me and I am town), then at night witches make 1 kill (they can soup more than that and damo made that easy to get 2 tonight if they've paid any attention), and the Vig hits anyone other than Vecna, the witches can win @ EON.

How is this possible you ask? Two scenarios, both assuming Vecna is scum:

1. If there is 3 witches left @ EON, we lose immediately because they control votes after EON - They could vote 4 power vs 2 remaining towns. This could be thwarted by a vig hit on a witch, but a miss would mean game over.
2. If there are 2 witches left, the vote goes to a tie and you will lose with the Judge is dead - this is due to the vote going to a tie - 3v3 on the day.

If you remove Vecna's double-vote power now, we buy ourselves more odds to last another day and night because we eliminate the chance for potential scum vote control earlier than desired. So my fellow townies: You need to ask yourselves right now how much do you believe Vecna is not scum? Are you willing to bet the whole game on this? Vecna needs to die to prolong this game unless you 100% believe he is town.

You are right about we could be on lylo if Vecna is scum and mylo if he is town and 3 witches are alive. You are wrong about the Vig, he will only shoot again it we myslinch twice (and then the game will probably be over).
And if you are really town, stop hinting, if we can start solving, scum also can....
And if Vecna is scum I am reading this game completely wrong and we will lose anyway, I guess
I have some time this morning will try to read a bit. I will be probably off-line at EOD as I have a loooong meeting this afternoon

[Jamiet99uk]

I'll vote for Jamie, something made me uneasy about his play.
##vote Jamiet99uk
Trust me here. And Vecna is townier than me, stop voting him.

Could you be more specific about what it is that you find suspect about me? I can't really defend myself against "something".

[Squigs44]

Vigilante: The first Night after two consecutive lynches of Village members, you may kill a player. A Vigilante kill appears the same as a regular Witch Night Kill.

Vig only gets one shot.

[Squigs44]

##vote worcej

And I think you need to relook at yav, Vecna. I think he could be the third.

So adding what I know to what you know, scum pool is:
Worcej, Rdrivera, Yav, and Jamie.

Y2k is townclear for me. Unless someone was lying.
I just need one more role to solve this.

How is Y2K townclear. Noone has even made any comments about the slot whatsoever

I'm intentionally being vague because if I explain myself, witches will know roles. Let's just say I am fairly certain I know y2ks role, and you should have enough info to figure it out. I could be wrong, but this is the most likely scenario.

[Squigs44]

@squigs did you find bozo scumreading someone?

Ive been wondering why they would do the extremely inefficient soup on bozo. souping someone whose identity you already know in this setup on day2 is extremely poor witch play

I asked some questions in my qt and it turns out my soup theory was debunked.

[Squigs44]

@Squigs - your jumping on my wagon is ridiculous based off nothing to back it up other than trying to convince Vecna that you 'see what he sees'. I've dropped some pretty obvious hints at what role I am and you must be blind to it (while I know two of the dead towns picked up on my hints) or just trying to save your own neck, which is scum behavior.

I town-read you for awhile, but common dude... this is highly scum behavior.

It's possible you are town, but highly unlikely. Let me see if I can find your hints. There are a limited number of roles I think you could be, so your breadcrumbs could actually tell me a lot more than in normal games

[rdrivera2005]

@Squigs - your jumping on my wagon is ridiculous based off nothing to back it up other than trying to convince Vecna that you 'see what he sees'. I've dropped some pretty obvious hints at what role I am and you must be blind to it (while I know two of the dead towns picked up on my hints) or just trying to save your own neck, which is scum behavior.

I town-read you for awhile, but common dude... this is highly scum behavior.

It's possible you are town, but highly unlikely. Let me see if I can find your hints. There are a limited number of roles I think you could be, so your breadcrumbs could actually tell me a lot more than in normal games

Why any town will leave breadcrumbs in a no reveal game where scum can use the Soup? If we can solve the puzzle scum can also do it.

[yavuzovic]

I'll vote for Jamie, something made me uneasy about his play.
##vote Jamiet99uk
Trust me here. And Vecna is townier than me, stop voting him.

Could you be more specific about what it is that you find suspect about me? I can't really defend myself against "something".

Okay, I didn't like your reads:

As it stands for me, we have:

damo666 - town
Jamiet99uk - town
rdrivera2005 - possible scum
Squigs44 - townlean - I have yet to see a proper case on why he's scum
Vecna - possible scum (but not scum with Worcej)
worcej - possible scum (but not scum with Vecna)
y2kjbk - probably town
yavuzovic - possible scum

I can't see a plausible scenario where Worcej is scum with Vecna, because Worcej's post about the danger of scum Vecna would be super-hardcore level bussing if that was true, and I don't feel like Worcej is the kind of guy who would bus his team-mate that hard.

Or let's say I haven't said that and I vote someone different. I don't really know why I said this but I remember I said that after I saw this read list.

[yavuzovic]

y2k changes his votes a lot of times. I think this made him a little towny. I retaliated a few though but he is really unstable and if witch QT is open during the day I don't think he would switch that much. But he made a few scummy posts as well. Fir example he made two sheep votes today. I give him null mark.

I think Yav has been lurking most of this game, with a little bit of borderline PR hunting. Other than going for Jaime and pointing out his tunnel of ezio and commenting about damo, there is little value to his posts. I am skeptical on his town reads - I was scum leaning bo and just cause Vecna has Lump doesn't just make him town... I think it's scum trying to avoid contact more than anything else.

Don't lie worcej, I never lurk. As town, as scum, as PR, as SK, never. Also you always accuse Vecna and try to make us create theories about him. He is town and you know that I think, you know that and want to kill our lump. This is the play I see. Worcej is scum to me.

##vote worcej

[Squigs44]

@Squigs - your jumping on my wagon is ridiculous based off nothing to back it up other than trying to convince Vecna that you 'see what he sees'. I've dropped some pretty obvious hints at what role I am and you must be blind to it (while I know two of the dead towns picked up on my hints) or just trying to save your own neck, which is scum behavior.

I town-read you for awhile, but common dude... this is highly scum behavior.

It's possible you are town, but highly unlikely. Let me see if I can find your hints. There are a limited number of roles I think you could be, so your breadcrumbs could actually tell me a lot more than in normal games

I *think* I found your breadcrumbs, but I could be wrong. Unfortunately that role is one of the ones that you could possibly be, so I have to rethink this. That would leave a scumteam of Rdrivera, Jamie, and Yav.

@Vec - I originally thought worcej was slam dunk scum, but after looking back I'm not sure he is. Do you think town worcej is an option here?

[Squigs44]

Right now it seems to me that Vecna was absolutely determined to make sure the wagons were Worcej vs Squiggs.

Was he attempting to make sure of a town vs town lynch battle?

Town worcej makes this comment interesting. If Jamie were scum and knew both worcej and I were town, I could see him making this comment.

[Vecna]

Yes i do think worcej is an option.

im also growing suspicious about damo again.

I know probably one scum is just playing very convincingly, but im not sure who.

y2k, rdrivera and squig are giving me quite some towny vibes right now.

nevertheless, squig + jamiet still feels like the most likely duo that fits here.

[Vecna]

I hope ill still be abke to check in before deadline but im going out for dinner n drink.

[Vecna]

##vote jamiet

[worcej]

Don't lie worcej, I never lurk. As town, as scum, as PR, as SK, never. Also you always accuse Vecna and try to make us create theories about him. He is town and you know that I think, you know that and want to kill our lump. This is the play I see. Worcej is scum to me.

##vote worcej

OMGUS aside, that post was made before you explained what your IRL stuff that was going on, so don't take it personally because you were noticeably not engaging compared to previous games. I am not the only one to have commented on that either.

To be honest, at this point, Lump is actually a threatening issue for town if Vecna is scum. If he is scum, we are definitely @ mylo/lylo (refer to my post to understand why it isn't exact) and you need to be aware of that. If you believe he is 100% town, then go ahead and disregard it. If we lynch him and he's town, we are not in 100% in lylo if there are 3 witches because the Judge may still be alive.

[Vecna]

ignore combinations, lynch the scummy fucker