MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

Oh god we have two PRs left??? Lol

I would think Bleeder a relatively safe claim if they’re under suspicion, but up to them.

Yeah, and name tags can be self-proving too. Oracle nametag is out there and I think resistance to peeking would be mafia-indicative. We should mass claim/peek soon if not today

I don't think we should mass claim with Bus driver still around. Doctor will be insta dead.

I have to think about the Bleeder claiming. Claiming too late could end in a counter claim and a gladiator that isn't great for town.

I can peek now if most people think it's the right move, but I suspect I might have the same tag I started with.

Anyway, I want to hear from more people about this.

I think all the non-clears should be peeking tomorrow.

[Bonatogether]

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can you elaborate on what actually drove this change, though?

Opinions are pretty labile. We're operating in the dark and we either get locked into something (Eden mentioned the ego) or we're so challenged with seemingly contradictory words/actions that it's like a pinball. That's all.

that doesn't actually answer my question

[Bonatogether]

I'm pretty sure the super-town group (Eden, Bona, me, ghug, Rumi) will hammer, so is anyone else alpha enough to help us out?

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[Bonatogether]

This is true. I am starting to fear I am wrong about Vecna and that we have some deep scum.

I really dislike Celaph post about me, because he totally ignored Snowy tried to have me as his counterwagon.

And just because I don't post a lot or long walls this doesn't mean I am not paying attention to the game.

who would the deep scum be?

This is the million dollars question. I would say Chaqa who is flying under radar based on pushing Byz/Snowy but have won based on hard bussing before.

I think Celaph is scum, but won't call him deep.

respectable take

[Chaqa]

On review I'm leaning toward NeonBrian as town and the Driver going the other way

[Bonatogether]

If the Bleeder is one of the more suspected players, should they claim?

the bleeder is pretty clear if they're hit and don't die, so i would say they should sit on it

[Bonatogether]

if we're talking about peeks i peeked on d1 like a typical teenager with zero impulse control

[President Eden]

On review I'm leaning toward NeonBrian as town and the Driver going the other way

Why? At a minimum ordering “bus Sabi and Neon” instead of “bus Neon and Sabi” doesn’t make sense to me, unless the mafia didn’t actually want the bomb for whatever reason.

[Chaqa]

On review I'm leaning toward NeonBrian as town and the Driver going the other way

Why? At a minimum ordering “bus Sabi and Neon” instead of “bus Neon and Sabi” doesn’t make sense to me, unless the mafia didn’t actually want the bomb for whatever reason.

No, that's what I'm saying.

Driver gives their tag to Neon
Neon's to Sabi
Sabi's to driver

[President Eden]

Come to think of it, going into n1 with your essentially caught Godfather looking like he’s headed to the gallows, why DON’T you switch the bomb to him?

[President Eden]

Possible reasons:

1. You don’t actually believe Sabi has the bomb
2. You know for whatever reason that you need your Godfather to kill that night (which would distribute the bomb to the corpse)
3. You mess up your orders and intended to distribute the bomb to your Godfather, but failed
4. You don’t want the bomb on your Godfather

[rdrivera2005]

Possible reasons:

1. You don’t actually believe Sabi has the bomb
2. You know for whatever reason that you need your Godfather to kill that night (which would distribute the bomb to the corpse)
3. You mess up your orders and intended to distribute the bomb to your Godfather, but failed
4. You don’t want the bomb on your Godfather

I would add:

5) Snowy came in and believed he can turn his faith (which he did).
6) They thought cop could scan GF, which will make useless a bomb on him.

[Bonatogether]

Possible reasons:

1. You don’t actually believe Sabi has the bomb
2. You know for whatever reason that you need your Godfather to kill that night (which would distribute the bomb to the corpse)
3. You mess up your orders and intended to distribute the bomb to your Godfather, but failed
4. You don’t want the bomb on your Godfather

1. believable
2. why would that be? there's no rb or watcher role
3. imaginable
4. i would imagine that the bomb on the gf isn't strictly optimum use - best case scenario for scum is popping two town, so possible

[President Eden]

Possible reasons:

1. You don’t actually believe Sabi has the bomb
2. You know for whatever reason that you need your Godfather to kill that night (which would distribute the bomb to the corpse)
3. You mess up your orders and intended to distribute the bomb to your Godfather, but failed
4. You don’t want the bomb on your Godfather

I would add:

5) Snowy came in and believed he can turn his faith (which he did).
6) They thought cop could scan GF, which will make useless a bomb on him.

Good calls, both reasonable possibilities.

Possible reasons:

1. You don’t actually believe Sabi has the bomb
2. You know for whatever reason that you need your Godfather to kill that night (which would distribute the bomb to the corpse)
3. You mess up your orders and intended to distribute the bomb to your Godfather, but failed
4. You don’t want the bomb on your Godfather

1. believable
2. why would that be? there's no rb or watcher role
3. imaginable
4. i would imagine that the bomb on the gf isn't strictly optimum use - best case scenario for scum is popping two town, so possible

The ideal scenario is just making the bomb blow up on a townie; obviously not losing their own to do it is best for them, but if they know somebody is going down then they have a better chance of ensuring the bomb hits a townie than when the day is uncertain.

[Vecna]

sup lovely nuggets

[Vecna]

##vote Hamilton Briano

[ghug]

Come to think of it, going into n1 with your essentially caught Godfather looking like he’s headed to the gallows, why DON’T you switch the bomb to him?

Snowy wasn't nearly as certain to die going into the day as you remember.

You scumread him, which explains how you remember it, but he did a lot of image destruction in the first half of the day before his death seemed inevitable.

[President Eden]

Come to think of it, going into n1 with your essentially caught Godfather looking like he’s headed to the gallows, why DON’T you switch the bomb to him?

Snowy wasn't nearly as certain to die going into the day as you remember.

You scumread him, which explains how you remember it, but he did a lot of image destruction in the first half of the day before his death seemed inevitable.

That’s true, you’re right.

[Vecna]

I think im happy for you guys to carry me and to remain low activity. Not worth the effort to read up, unless weird things happen this game.

HB today, Celaph tomorrow?

Like, if those 2 flip scum (which seems likely, seems plenty of people have concensus on that? or am I interpreting this wrongly?) - then you can happily believe im town.

[Vecna]

Eden, how high confidence are you in Ghug, Chaqa amd Bona all being town?