MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[President Eden]

I think I rather dunk one of the POE people who aren’t putting any time into the game anymore

[President Eden]

Let's all claim doctor so later we can laugh at the mafia and say "the doctor fucking claimed for no reason and you still couldn't kill them".

Chaqa moment

Still won

can’t believe you actually skipped +1ing that

[Hamilton Brian]

Settle down kids. Grandpa has a story to tell.

[President Eden]

Settle down kids. Grandpa has a story to tell.

[Hamilton Brian]

Settle down kids. Grandpa has a story to tell.

Kind of, but not game-related, but more or less to tell that young upstart Bona to piss off. :D

[celaph]

Wondering if celaph finally worked out how to fool us and if pyx died because he called attention to celaph’s suspicion record.

Fear kills considered good.

I’ve been away partly because I don’t see a great reason to post until right before EoN and partly because I’ve been hosting a college friend over because it was cheaper for them to fly out to get a scan than to get the scan without insurance. They’ll leave around mid-day tomorrow so I should be free to post after that point, though I’ll try to get on again tonight. In the mean time, let me post the posts that I’ve written while I’ve had time.

American health care considered harmful.

[celaph]

@Celaph: Why did you townread Snowy?

Snowy’s play at the end there felt pro-town and, on review, aligned with the way I expected town to play that day. When he was subbed in he was told that he was scum and that he had 100+ pages to catch up on. We then spent most of the day commenting on his lack of contributions while he went back and seemingly read everything that he missed. Note his progression of reads through the day. Then, a few hours before EoD, he actually started putting things together in a way that felt town coming to quality conclusions.

[celaph]

So, again, you think all that stuff about "Vanilla Town" nametags was an expertly-crafted and proficiently-delivered acting performance?

yessir

Ok. I think you reached your conclusion first and now you're confbiasing anything that appears to support your view rather than actually examining the evidence with an open mind, but, ok.

I feel like you’re being put off by Bona’s delivery more so than his content here. Yes, I agree that her confusion mid-D2 about her tag felt incredibly towny, but it’s also the only thing I find towny about the slot since, perhaps, her early D1 Rumi comments. How can you have someone so towny when almost nothing they’ve done all game feels that way?

[celaph]

Are Bona and Chaqa actually town or do you just want them to be?

I think Bona’s actually town.

He was ahead of the curve on scumreading Byz so if he’s bussing, he’s doing it proactively. Nor did it ever feel like Bona was backing up to reconsider the wagon from the perspective of one who might flip to save his teammate.

At the same time, he’s building on his view of the game in a way that makes a lot of sense given his position. Look at the way he confidently slapped the bus sticker on Neon’s Snowy vote. He saw a vote that aligned with his and then went to analyze the reasoning behind her vote and drew a logical conclusion from that. That’s very towny while also reminding me of how Bona acted when he scumread me. Same vibes as here:

I think this is scum!celaph white knighting town!bob

I’m far less confident about Chaqa being town. At one level, he D1 endvoted the GF and I’ve liked the way that he’s pushing rdr. And it seems most likely that has odd scumreads on Bona and Rumi have been “a thing I do sometimes where I sus someone really hard that I'm town reading.”

At the same time, I can’t rule out that he timed his D1 vote to tie the Byz with Damo to maximize his town credit in the way he did M62. Then despite saying D2 that he intended to collapse onto Snowy’s wagon he didn’t. When rdr’s wagon was stagnating and Chaqa became the main CW, he then switched to Sabi to boost them as the CW instead and choosing not to collapse onto Snowy when it looked like he could survive.

Oh, I 100% intent to honor my promise to hammer Snowy at EOD. There is no more optimal recourse to this game's progression at this moment to me.

Also, a less charitable reading of his scumreads of Bona and Rumi is that I can see them being potential late game miskills. Bona has been miskilled before while I think Rumi got a lot of points not for solving, but instead for not thinking like scum thinks. That latter style of town points seems to hold a lot less wait when people get paranoid.

[Rumi Tobari]

Settle down kids. Grandpa has a story to tell.

Kind of, but not game-related, but more or less to tell that young upstart Bona to piss off. :D

Was kind of interested until you said not game-related.

[celaph]

@celaph — thanks for adding to the post; does the nightkill switch tags?

Yes.
Though I feel like you’re just joking here.

[celaph]

##vote worcej

I believe this is better. We can manually kill Hamilton tomorrow.

this is NOT bussin fam ong 100

This I really do not understand.

@Celaph, you proposed this morning that Snowy could be the doctor (and if so and they've left, that's really lousy) but then immediately retracted it. Why?

I was initially thinking that Snowy might not have doc claimed at EoD2 because Sabi was leading until the end. I then remembered that Snowy was a sub for Byz who was much closer to dying D1 and who should have claimed if he was doc.

[celaph]

I’m pretty sure snowy never peeked (because Oracle) and just bullshitted about the deathbomb to get through D2. We know he wasn’t the Bus Driver or a passenger on the bus, and at first blush I have no idea how a non-Bus Driver, non-passenger even gets a townie’s nametag without a PR targeting them.

At this point there’s no serious reason to believe that snowy was telling the truth about any nametag shenanigans.

I’m more interested in whether Neon was telling the truth about the Florist visit, although I don’t know how much that matters either

Adding to the first part, if GF snowy had ever peeked, then I doubt that would have left the inno tag on him.

If flowers went to anyone besides Neon, would there have been any reason to not cc her claim as there is no town reason to lie that you got flowers when you didn’t. I can see not claiming if the actual flowers went to a PR, but otherwise, any VT should have just cc’d and gone 1 for 1. Also, if Neon got flowers then means that Darg targeted Sabi which would make a lot of sense for a N1 play.

[ghug]

If I die kill Chaqa

[Bonatogether]

Settle down kids. Grandpa has a story to tell.

Kind of, but not game-related, but more or less to tell that young upstart Bona to piss off. :D

[President Eden]

@celaph — thanks for adding to the post; does the nightkill switch tags?

Yes.
Though I feel like you’re just joking here.

Weird that you know this since the Info Doc doesn’t say

[DemonRHK]

NIGHT HAS ENDED PLEASE HOLD

[Jamiet99uk]

If I die kill Vecna.

[DemonRHK]

The building had gone quiet, officers were dropping like flies, and everyone had gone off alone, not trusting anyone. The old officer sighed. His partner was gone. He'd worked with the man for years and all of that was over. For what? Some stupid case they should have never been involved in.

Story of his career.

He sat on the toliet, latest issue of Field and Stream in hand, trying to take his mind away from the nightmare he was quickly found himself in. He paged through the magazine, for a fleeting moment the murders, the crime, everything just washed away. After some time he sighed again and closed it up and stood to return to his sleeping arrangements.

As he stood, the click was audible.

"...again?!"

He had no more had gotten the word out as the explosion send porcelain shrapnel tearing through his body.

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JAMIET99UK has DIED! They were RODGER MURTAGH, the COP!

48ish hours remain in Day 4

YOU MAY POST

[Bonatogether]

rip