MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

I'm not massively interested in another 34 hours of this.

Come on, Fellow Townspersons, let's put Snowy out of our misery.

We need 7 hammers on snowy. We have four. I can switch and be #5 but that doesn’t get us there yet

You can switch and be #6.

I’m gonna hold off til I can guarantee the switch causes the hammer and Hamilton gets second-wagon

[Chaqa]

Or I can stay put and let others finish it

We’re 100% on Hamilton?

[President Eden]

@celaph — thanks for adding to the post; does the nightkill switch tags?

[Hamilton Brian]

Hmmm; it seems the snowy wagon has developed from some incontrovertible reasoning (?) mostly issued from PE. The drop-out doesn't look good, and certainly doesn't look good in a pro-town way. However, if that slot is town, (and are all of you on that wagon 100% sure it's not) is there a downside?

Jamie's cop claim? Is this 100% confirmed beyond just belief of the word? And if true, why wouldn't they have been the NK?

I guess I am ok with ##Vote snowy but I am somewhat reserved. For all the big deducing that seems to be driving it, I am still a wagon with Bo and Chaqa sitting on it, although I think Chaqa was just playing some odds.

[Rumi Tobari]

We need 7 hammers on snowy. We have four. I can switch and be #5 but that doesn’t get us there yet

You can switch and be #6.

I’m gonna hold off til I can guarantee the switch causes the hammer and Hamilton gets second-wagon

Or I can stay put and let others finish it

We’re 100% on Hamilton?

Nono, actually the first quote is a valid point. I know bo is on vacation, but I'm not familiar enough wiht him to say he won't switch.

Also. I just thought about something. Bus driver *has to bus*. If Snowy is bus driver, he won't have the death bomb anymore, will he?

[President Eden]

You can switch and be #6.

I’m gonna hold off til I can guarantee the switch causes the hammer and Hamilton gets second-wagon

Or I can stay put and let others finish it

We’re 100% on Hamilton?

Nono, actually the first quote is a valid point. I know bo is on vacation, but I'm not familiar enough wiht him to say he won't switch.

Also. I just thought about something. Bus driver *has to bus*. If Snowy is bus driver, he won't have the death bomb anymore, will he?

true!

[Jamiet99uk]

Or I can stay put and let others finish it

We’re 100% on Hamilton?

100% on thinking he's scum?

No. I don't think that slot is scum.

[Rumi Tobari]

I’m gonna hold off til I can guarantee the switch causes the hammer and Hamilton gets second-wagon

Or I can stay put and let others finish it

We’re 100% on Hamilton?

Nono, actually the first quote is a valid point. I know bo is on vacation, but I'm not familiar enough wiht him to say he won't switch.

Also. I just thought about something. Bus driver *has to bus*. If Snowy is bus driver, he won't have the death bomb anymore, will he?

true!

Another thing I kinda suddenly thought of when I was about to ask if you had any ideas on where driver!Snowy had put the bomb now. Did Snowy bus anyone, or had the withdraw already gone through and DRHK did the bus?

[Hamilton Brian]

Scum team probably relished having subs get into the game so quickly. Fresh meat.

Something stinks about it but you know me; takes me a while to make the connect the dots and see the forest for the trees.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hmmm; it seems the snowy wagon has developed from some incontrovertible reasoning (?) mostly issued from PE. The drop-out doesn't look good, and certainly doesn't look good in a pro-town way. However, if that slot is town, (and are all of you on that wagon 100% sure it's not) is there a downside?

Jamie's cop claim? Is this 100% confirmed beyond just belief of the word? And if true, why wouldn't they have been the NK?

I guess I am ok with ##Vote snowy but I am somewhat reserved. For all the big deducing that seems to be driving it, I am still a wagon with Bo and Chaqa sitting on it, although I think Chaqa was just playing some odds.

I claimed at the very last moment of EoN so if the scum team did not realise I was cop, they would not have had time to change their orders.

My theory is that Snowy is the Bus Driver. Iso my posts earlier today if you want to see the explanation. If he is not the Bus Driver, then he lied about his name tag yesterday to get Sabi killed, which is not pro-town behaviour.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also. I just thought about something. Bus driver *has to bus*. If Snowy is bus driver, he won't have the death bomb anymore, will he?

That is correct, young apprentice.

[President Eden]

Nono, actually the first quote is a valid point. I know bo is on vacation, but I'm not familiar enough wiht him to say he won't switch.

Also. I just thought about something. Bus driver *has to bus*. If Snowy is bus driver, he won't have the death bomb anymore, will he?

true!

Another thing I kinda suddenly thought of when I was about to ask if you had any ideas on where driver!Snowy had put the bomb now. Did Snowy bus anyone, or had the withdraw already gone through and DRHK did the bus?

worth asking certainly, but I don’t know that we’ll know the answer. I would bet on snowy entering an order to ensure his team isn’t left hanging, but it’s possible he didn’t

[Hamilton Brian]

Thanks Jamie; that's an important detail I would have missed when I joined in. You weren't a wagon, from what I recall, so was there a reason you would have dropped that knowledge when you did?

Good morning all, btw.

[Jamiet99uk]

Thanks Jamie; that's an important detail I would have missed when I joined in. You weren't a wagon, from what I recall, so was there a reason you would have dropped that knowledge when you did?

Good morning all, btw.

There are no wagons at night.

I revealed my role because I thought there was a strong chance I would be killed. I had useful information regarding the Bus Driver so I felt this was worth sharing with the town, rather than risk it being lost when I died.

[Rumi Tobari]

true!

Another thing I kinda suddenly thought of when I was about to ask if you had any ideas on where driver!Snowy had put the bomb now. Did Snowy bus anyone, or had the withdraw already gone through and DRHK did the bus?

worth asking certainly, but I don’t know that we’ll know the answer. I would bet on snowy entering an order to ensure his team isn’t left hanging, but it’s possible he didn’t

Part of the reason I'm putting this out here is because DRHK claimed "intelligent randomization" would be used to choose for Snowy, and my own experience might be wrong, but I would not put it past him to just put a bunch of names in a list or array and apply rand() to it. (although this statement might just mean I don't know him as well as I think)

At least Snowy had opinions that we could maybe predict.

[Jamiet99uk]

Another thing I kinda suddenly thought of when I was about to ask if you had any ideas on where driver!Snowy had put the bomb now. Did Snowy bus anyone, or had the withdraw already gone through and DRHK did the bus?

worth asking certainly, but I don’t know that we’ll know the answer. I would bet on snowy entering an order to ensure his team isn’t left hanging, but it’s possible he didn’t

Part of the reason I'm putting this out here is because DRHK claimed "intelligent randomization" would be used to choose for Snowy, and my own experience might be wrong, but I would not put it past him to just put a bunch of names in a list or array and apply rand() to it. (although this statement might just mean I don't know him as well as I think)

At least Snowy had opinions that we could maybe predict.

Second-guessing the GM is a cul-de-sac best not ventured too far down.

The GM is not going to tell us, anyway.

[Chaqa]

I think the best alternative to Hamilton is worc.

main reason I can see to let worcej take the hit is that he's the no-voter as far as we know. If he is town, we haven't lost a voting power. There's probably some analysis to be done on whether the no-vote is a liability in late game, but my gut tells me it is.

[DemonRHK]

GM VOTE COUNT DAY THREE THE FIRST
(bot count)

snowy801(7): ghug*, Jamiet99uk*, Rumi Tobari*, President Eden*, Bonatogether, celaph*, Hamilton Brian
Hamilton Brian(2): bo_sox48, Chaqa*

Currently, SNOWY801 (VACANT) is set to be KILLED!

33ish hours remain in Day 3.

[Chaqa]

We need 2 more hammers on snowy to trigger this.

Thoughts on Hamilton vs. Worc?

13 people left atm. If mafia has 2x vote then voting power currently is

8 votes town
5 votes mafia

If Hamilton is town and town dies tonight we're down to 6 town votes to 5 scum votes tomorrrow.

If we kill worcej instead tomorrow will be 7 town votes to 5 mafia votes which allows us to no kill if needed.

[Chaqa]

##vote worcej

I believe this is better. We can manually kill Hamilton tomorrow.