MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

@Eden: however, if we vote Snowy out, we can essentially manipulate a 2-for-1 anyway if he has the Deathbomb.

I'm down to do a one-two punch on Snowy and someone. I get the Neon thing, but I'd rather get rivera out.

I'm still annoyed at you people for voting Sabi when I specifically implored you all not to.

[President Eden]

I once again want to emphasize that based on what the GM has said, the snowy slot will be modkilled if no replacement can be found within a day/night cycle. This means we can try to double kill mafia by leaving the slot alone and waiting around, and then kill it later if a replacement arises. This is technically the optimal play for town.

However, I think this would result in us getting an advantage we don’t deserve, so I think the proper play is to simply kill snowy and be done with it.

At the same time, by not killing him today, there is a better chance a sub is found. TBH this whole thing is annoying because we should have just killed Snowy yesterday. IDK what led me to vote for Sabi besides thinking we’d get a two-for-one. Had I fully understood all the info I probably would have voted snowy.

It’s 0% chance to double kill mafia vs some % chance. It’s still strictly optimal to wait and see. But I think plainly against the spirit of the game. We should just do what we should have done d1

[Rumi Tobari]

yessir

... you know, when I was ignorant of the nametags in N1, Chaqa said I was being coached in scumchat.

Was it possible that Neon was being coached through that whole thing in scumchat?

Well, not exactly, because the exchange I'm talking about occurred during the Day, when scumchat is closed.

It's possible someone in scumchat could have given her some tips the preceding night.

Okay. this one's on me. I'm having trouble remembering the timings on everything. Next time I'll go back and verify before I make a statement like this.

[President Eden]

@Eden: however, if we vote Snowy out, we can essentially manipulate a 2-for-1 anyway if he has the Deathbomb.

I’m down to do a one-two punch on Snowy and someone. I get the Neon thing, but I’d rather get rivera out.

I highly doubt that he still has the deathbomb now, but it’s probably worth staging a second wagon anyway.

[Chaqa]

@Eden: however, if we vote Snowy out, we can essentially manipulate a 2-for-1 anyway if he has the Deathbomb.

I'm down to do a one-two punch on Snowy and someone. I get the Neon thing, but I'd rather get rivera out.

I'm still annoyed at you people for voting Sabi when I specifically implored you all not to.

Don't push it.

[President Eden]

@Eden: however, if we vote Snowy out, we can essentially manipulate a 2-for-1 anyway if he has the Deathbomb.

I’m down to do a one-two punch on Snowy and someone. I get the Neon thing, but I’d rather get rivera out.

I’m still annoyed at you people for voting Sabi when I specifically implored you all not to.

Well geez, you shoulda told me you were the cop and I wouldn’t have!!

[Chaqa]

OH

Rumi - I was never suspicious of you, I was doing a thing I do sometimes where I sus someone really hard that I'm town reading.

[ghug]

Because Jamie’s attempted Sabi visit went to Neon.

Slight correction - you have that backwards, Ghug. I attempted to visit Neon, and got Sabi instead.

However, the result is the same in terms of Chaqa’s query. The bus driver can only swap two people. He was busy swapping Neon and Sabi so could not also target Snowy.

I continue to believe that Snowy IS the Bus Driver.

He’s either the Bus Driver or lied about having the deathbomb. I believe these are the only two possibilities that can explain what we know

Sabi could have also lied. Or i guess he could maybe be the doctor but lol.

[rdrivera2005]

I think we should just kill Snowy. It's really unfair to anyone sub in in this position. We might just make a voting to see who the second wagon should be in case Snowy really have the bomb.

I am probably the only one who haven't peeked yet, but I know since start when I should peek....

[ghug]

I once again want to emphasize that based on what the GM has said, the snowy slot will be modkilled if no replacement can be found within a day/night cycle. This means we can try to double kill mafia by leaving the slot alone and waiting around, and then kill it later if a replacement arises. This is technically the optimal play for town.

However, I think this would result in us getting an advantage we don’t deserve, so I think the proper play is to simply kill snowy and be done with it.

I will note that this gives us a disadvantage we don't deserve, as we don't get the proper informative EoD we would have with snowy present.

I tend to agree with you though.

[rdrivera2005]

@Eden: however, if we vote Snowy out, we can essentially manipulate a 2-for-1 anyway if he has the Deathbomb.

I'm down to do a one-two punch on Snowy and someone. I get the Neon thing, but I'd rather get rivera out.

Why you want me out? And no, I am not dying today so go look elsewhere.

[President Eden]

Slight correction - you have that backwards, Ghug. I attempted to visit Neon, and got Sabi instead.

However, the result is the same in terms of Chaqa’s query. The bus driver can only swap two people. He was busy swapping Neon and Sabi so could not also target Snowy.

I continue to believe that Snowy IS the Bus Driver.

He’s either the Bus Driver or lied about having the deathbomb. I believe these are the only two possibilities that can explain what we know

Sabi could have also lied. Or i guess he could maybe be the doctor but lol.

Sabi definitely could have lied, but snowy would have had to have saved Dargo n1 AND the mafia would have had to cash in the Strongman n1 for him to end up with the deathbomb.

And I just don’t think Sabi lied.

[Chaqa]

@Eden: however, if we vote Snowy out, we can essentially manipulate a 2-for-1 anyway if he has the Deathbomb.

I'm down to do a one-two punch on Snowy and someone. I get the Neon thing, but I'd rather get rivera out.

Why you want me out? And no, I am not dying today so go look elsewhere.

Cuz u scummy bud

[Rumi Tobari]

OH

Rumi - I was never suspicious of you, I was doing a thing I do sometimes where I sus someone really hard that I'm town reading.

It was starting to seem kinda memey as it went on. I don't agree with your whole lie about your nametag earlier, but glad you came clean. Real props, and it explains it alot more clearly for me to understand

And it sounds pretty plausible to me.

[President Eden]

I once again want to emphasize that based on what the GM has said, the snowy slot will be modkilled if no replacement can be found within a day/night cycle. This means we can try to double kill mafia by leaving the slot alone and waiting around, and then kill it later if a replacement arises. This is technically the optimal play for town.

However, I think this would result in us getting an advantage we don’t deserve, so I think the proper play is to simply kill snowy and be done with it.

I will note that this gives us a disadvantage we don’t deserve, as we don’t get the proper informative EoD we would have with snowy present.

I tend to agree with you though.

I would argue with this, but it would involve reopening a closed can of worms

We’re on same page

[Jamiet99uk]

@Eden: however, if we vote Snowy out, we can essentially manipulate a 2-for-1 anyway if he has the Deathbomb.

I’m down to do a one-two punch on Snowy and someone. I get the Neon thing, but I’d rather get rivera out.

I’m still annoyed at you people for voting Sabi when I specifically implored you all not to.

Well geez, you shoulda told me you were the cop and I wouldn’t have!!

I mean I softed it pretty blatantly.

[Hamilton Brian]

I feel slower than usual with this. Can someone please explain why the final votes on D2 were 9 for Sabi when there were 8? Special power again? And I assume it's non-AI as we'd be all over those 8 voters? Or is it Ai and we need to be chomping on those 8?

[Rumi Tobari]

I feel slower than usual with this. Can someone please explain why the final votes on D2 were 9 for Sabi when there were 8? Special power again? And I assume it's non-AI as we'd be all over those 8 voters? Or is it Ai and we need to be chomping on those 8?

One of the nametags is voteX2, we still don't know who has it.

[President Eden]

It’s that time again kids!

Italics mean the person’s alignment is known to me.
Underline mean the person’s alignment is public knowledge.
Green means I believe the person is town.
Red means I believe the person is mafia.

damo666 (7): BesharamSabi, celaph, dargorygel, worcej, Byz, ghug, Vecna
Byz (5): Jamiet99uk, Bonatogether, President Eden, Chaqa, Rumi Tobari
celaph (1): Princess Neon
BesharamSabi (1): damo666
Jamiet99uk (1): rdrivera2005
Chaqa (1): bo_sox48
ghug (1): pyxxy


Chaqa looks pretty good to me based off this, despite all his weirdness.

Kind of think the team is snowy801 / Hamilton Brian / Vecna / rdrivera2005.

[ghug]

It’s that time again kids!

Italics mean the person’s alignment is known to me.
Underline mean the person’s alignment is public knowledge.
Green means I believe the person is town.
Red means I believe the person is mafia.

damo666 (7): BesharamSabi, celaph, dargorygel, worcej, Byz, ghug, Vecna
Byz (5): Jamiet99uk, Bonatogether, President Eden, Chaqa, Rumi Tobari
celaph (1): Princess Neon
BesharamSabi (1): damo666
Jamiet99uk (1): rdrivera2005
Chaqa (1): bo_sox48
ghug (1): pyxxy


Chaqa looks pretty good to me based off this, despite all his weirdness.

Kind of think the team is snowy801 / Hamilton Brian / Vecna / rdrivera2005.

bussing considered possible