MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote neon

knew it

What did you know?

Why do you conclude that Neon is scum?

so either (1) Sabi lied, (2) doc saved Sabi and got redirected to Neon swapping tag, or (3) Neon lied

sabi lying is imaginable but not plausible
doc saving sabi is highly unlikely - who would think scum would shoot them?
fits with my preconceived notion that neon was scum. ez

You are quoting an outdated post from President Eden which fails to account for the Bus Driver gaining the Name Tag of one of their targets.

So your conclusion is based on incorrect data.

[Chaqa]

##vote neon

knew it

What did you know?

Why do you conclude that Neon is scum?

Apparently when you have a child all your scumhunting talent is passed on

So Chaqa can still have kids but some of you should be thinking it over

Man come on now…

[President Eden]

What did you know?

Why do you conclude that Neon is scum?

Apparently when you have a child all your scumhunting talent is passed on

So Chaqa can still have kids but some of you should be thinking it over

Man come on now…

[Bonatogether]

What did you know?

Why do you conclude that Neon is scum?

so either (1) Sabi lied, (2) doc saved Sabi and got redirected to Neon swapping tag, or (3) Neon lied

sabi lying is imaginable but not plausible
doc saving sabi is highly unlikely - who would think scum would shoot them?
fits with my preconceived notion that neon was scum. ez

You are quoting an outdated post from President Eden which fails to account for the Bus Driver gaining the Name Tag of one of their targets.

So your conclusion is based on incorrect data.

i'll take your word for it

i still believe the neon slot is scum for d1/d2 actions

[Jamiet99uk]

sabi lying is imaginable but not plausible
doc saving sabi is highly unlikely - who would think scum would shoot them?
fits with my preconceived notion that neon was scum. ez

You are quoting an outdated post from President Eden which fails to account for the Bus Driver gaining the Name Tag of one of their targets.

So your conclusion is based on incorrect data.

i'll take your word for it

i still believe the neon slot is scum for d1/d2 actions

Oh really?

Which actions in particular?

[President Eden]

Why couldn’t bus driver have driven Sabi onto Snowy?

Because Jamie’s attempted Sabi visit went to Neon.

Slight correction - you have that backwards, Ghug. I attempted to visit Neon, and got Sabi instead.

However, the result is the same in terms of Chaqa’s query. The bus driver can only swap two people. He was busy swapping Neon and Sabi so could not also target Snowy.

I continue to believe that Snowy IS the Bus Driver.

He’s either the Bus Driver or lied about having the deathbomb. I believe these are the only two possibilities that can explain what we know

[Rumi Tobari]

You are quoting an outdated post from President Eden which fails to account for the Bus Driver gaining the Name Tag of one of their targets.

So your conclusion is based on incorrect data.

i'll take your word for it

i still believe the neon slot is scum for d1/d2 actions

Oh really?

Which actions in particular?

From my perspective, Neon seemed to be more interested in defending herself and Sabi than solving things. I wasn't sure if that was my imagination or not though.

During N2 she told me that town shouldn't lie when I was expressing that I don't think I should make up a stance like Snowy was pressing me to do.

Then offered explanations / justifcatiosn for Sabi or Snowy to be lying as town.

It made me feel slightly led in circles that she was teelling me one thing, then lowkey advocating another.

[Bonatogether]

You are quoting an outdated post from President Eden which fails to account for the Bus Driver gaining the Name Tag of one of their targets.

So your conclusion is based on incorrect data.

i'll take your word for it

i still believe the neon slot is scum for d1/d2 actions

Oh really?

Which actions in particular?

1) the insistence that she had special solving methods that often were ignored/scumread that never came up again
2) the strange EoD2 reaction
3) strange shading of the toob
off the top of my head

[President Eden]

i’ll take your word for it

i still believe the neon slot is scum for d1/d2 actions

Oh really?

Which actions in particular?

From my perspective, Neon seemed to be more interested in defending herself and Sabi than solving things. I wasn’t sure if that was my imagination or not though.

During N2 she told me that town shouldn’t lie when I was expressing that I don’t think I should make up a stance like Snowy was pressing me to do.

Then offered explanations / justifcatiosn for Sabi or Snowy to be lying as town.

It made me feel slightly led in circles that she was teelling me one thing, then lowkey advocating another.

hard agree

I think snowByz and Hamilton Neon are both mafia

[Jamiet99uk]

So, again, you think all that stuff about "Vanilla Town" nametags was an expertly-crafted and proficiently-delivered acting performance?

[Bonatogether]

So, again, you think all that stuff about "Vanilla Town" nametags was an expertly-crafted and proficiently-delivered acting performance?

yessir

[Chaqa]

Is it bad I think the clearest way to lay this all out is with a crazy person string board.

[President Eden]

I once again want to emphasize that based on what the GM has said, the snowy slot will be modkilled if no replacement can be found within a day/night cycle. This means we can try to double kill mafia by leaving the slot alone and waiting around, and then kill it later if a replacement arises. This is technically the optimal play for town.

However, I think this would result in us getting an advantage we don’t deserve, so I think the proper play is to simply kill snowy and be done with it.

[Jamiet99uk]

So, again, you think all that stuff about "Vanilla Town" nametags was an expertly-crafted and proficiently-delivered acting performance?

yessir

Ok. I think you reached your conclusion first and now you're confbiasing anything that appears to support your view rather than actually examining the evidence with an open mind, but, ok.

[Rumi Tobari]

So, again, you think all that stuff about "Vanilla Town" nametags was an expertly-crafted and proficiently-delivered acting performance?

yessir

... you know, when I was ignorant of the nametags in N1, Chaqa said I was being coached in scumchat.

Was it possible that Neon was being coached through that whole thing in scumchat?

[Jamiet99uk]

I once again want to emphasize that based on what the GM has said, the snowy slot will be modkilled if no replacement can be found within a day/night cycle. This means we can try to double kill mafia by leaving the slot alone and waiting around, and then kill it later if a replacement arises. This is technically the optimal play for town.

However, I think this would result in us getting an advantage we don’t deserve, so I think the proper play is to simply kill snowy and be done with it.

Yeah I'd feel especially bad about doing that, given I'm mostly the person who upset Snowy.

[Chaqa]

I once again want to emphasize that based on what the GM has said, the snowy slot will be modkilled if no replacement can be found within a day/night cycle. This means we can try to double kill mafia by leaving the slot alone and waiting around, and then kill it later if a replacement arises. This is technically the optimal play for town.

However, I think this would result in us getting an advantage we don’t deserve, so I think the proper play is to simply kill snowy and be done with it.

At the same time, by not killing him today, there is a better chance a sub is found. TBH this whole thing is annoying because we should have just killed Snowy yesterday. IDK what led me to vote for Sabi besides thinking we'd get a two-for-one. Had I fully understood all the info I probably would have voted snowy.

[Chaqa]

@Eden: however, if we vote Snowy out, we can essentially manipulate a 2-for-1 anyway if he has the Deathbomb.

I'm down to do a one-two punch on Snowy and someone. I get the Neon thing, but I'd rather get rivera out.

[Jamiet99uk]

So, again, you think all that stuff about "Vanilla Town" nametags was an expertly-crafted and proficiently-delivered acting performance?

yessir

... you know, when I was ignorant of the nametags in N1, Chaqa said I was being coached in scumchat.

Was it possible that Neon was being coached through that whole thing in scumchat?

Well, not exactly, because the exchange I'm talking about occurred during the Day, when scumchat is closed.

It's possible someone in scumchat could have given her some tips the preceding night.

[Rumi Tobari]

So, again, you think all that stuff about "Vanilla Town" nametags was an expertly-crafted and proficiently-delivered acting performance?

yessir

... you know, when I was ignorant of the nametags in N1, Chaqa said I was being coached in scumchat.

Was it possible that Neon was being coached through that whole thing in scumchat?

Note: I'm not accusing Chaqa here. I"m only addressing that Neon could have been coached through it.

I wasn't too committed to the idea that she might be scum until that hwole "don't lie as town" > (justified why Sabi and Snowy would have been lying as town) moment