MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

I didn’t read the last 15 pages or so. So, please someone explain me why people are voting for Sabi who claimed the bomb? What am I missing?

snowy has the bomb

sabi response lookin hella sus fam 100 ong no cap

sabi was playing weirdly but it was absolutely not a kill worthy thing.

[Bonatogether]

bona is going to be so sad that we actually wagoned sabi and he wasn’t here to partake

no

[Bonatogether]

So should we kill Sabi and snowy dies if he’s lying or should we kill snowy and Sabi dies if he’s telling the truth

Which scenario is better

column A

why is that? sabi was a townlean or read for a sizeable amount of people until apparently 8 people decided to speedwagon them while they were afk, and in any case, it was highly unlikely that sabi actually had the bomb at that time. it solves no problems and lets scum kick the bomb around some more while we let someone who a fair proportion of the game came into today with intent to kill off the hook

[Bonatogether]

So should we kill Sabi and snowy dies if he’s lying or should we kill snowy and Sabi dies if he’s telling the truth

Which scenario is better

Honestly? Killing Snowy and you die. But we can't have everything.
##vote snowy

the toob is unironically based

[Bonatogether]

clarification for you smoothbrains: i am not hard scumreading the chaq in the way that the toob is

[Bonatogether]

it’s clearly column a lol wtf

yall cra z

explique s'il vous plate

[Bonatogether]

Sabi isn't the best counter wagon here, but I feel like snowy has been townier over the past day by a long shot. Still up to speedwagon rdr, but ##vote Sabi

casually ignoring byz. rip

[President Eden]

Sabi isn’t the best counter wagon here, but I feel like snowy has been townier over the past day by a long shot. Still up to speedwagon rdr, but ##vote Sabi

casually ignoring byz. rip

you know, this is rich coming from me, but it would be nice for you to explain precisely how Byz scumclaimed, because on a lot of reflection it seems very plausible to me that he simply let his ego get the better of him as town.

because from here, with no prior experience with him, I don’t actually see how you can be 100% sure. and you’ve already acknowledged, if I understand right, that snowy has been fairly townie.

[Bonatogether]

if chaqa is not lying about his tag then this 3 way ties

forgetting the double vote

[Bonatogether]

Bro I'm a troll

ftfy

[Bonatogether]

we really should not be speculating on who has a PR here thank you very much!

me me i'm a pr

[Bonatogether]

oh I didn't look at the activity bar, I believe you if you say it so confidently

I mean they voted to tie and save themselves at :59.

Unrelated to the context of what just happened:
Is the better town play to not try and tie to save yourself (a known town), and instead say as much?

tying votes at :58 or :59 is extremely funny and people love it

10/10 would recommend

[Bonatogether]

FINAL MODIFIED VOTE COUNT

BesharamSabi(9): Chaqa, President Eden, ghug, snowy801, celaph, rdrivera2005, Vecna, bo_sox48
snowy801(5): Princess Neon*, Jamiet99uk, Bonatogether, BesharamSabi, pyxxy
Chaqa(1): Rumi Tobari
rdrivera2005(0): worcej
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BESHARAMSABI has DIED! They were ALONZO HARRIS, the VANILLA TOWN!

Nametag info update:

ALONZO HARRIS - Scan as GUILTY, dead with sabi

worcej currently has 0xVote

Chaqa and President Eden were both in the initial 2xVote pool along with Bona, so Bona for sure no longer has it if he ever did.

Might be worth analyzing when Chaqa was avoiding the nametag questions and if him having the 2xVote would have lead to a...surprise result.

shaddup

[Bonatogether]

What the absolute fuck?

I told you Sabi was town.

Which fucking scum did this?

me

is that a scumslip.

[ghug]

FINAL MODIFIED VOTE COUNT

BesharamSabi(9): Chaqa, President Eden, ghug, snowy801, celaph, rdrivera2005, Vecna, bo_sox48
snowy801(5): Princess Neon*, Jamiet99uk, Bonatogether, BesharamSabi, pyxxy
Chaqa(1): Rumi Tobari
rdrivera2005(0): worcej
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BESHARAMSABI has DIED! They were ALONZO HARRIS, the VANILLA TOWN!

Nametag info update:

ALONZO HARRIS - Scan as GUILTY, dead with sabi

worcej currently has 0xVote

Chaqa and President Eden were both in the initial 2xVote pool along with Bona, so Bona for sure no longer has it if he ever did.

Might be worth analyzing when Chaqa was avoiding the nametag questions and if him having the 2xVote would have lead to a...surprise result.

shaddup

I think this level of analysis is fine for night. Scum will do it too. Might as well get it out there.

[Bonatogether]

Kinda weird you're just fine with 2 town dying like that
Like someone do the lylo math but I feel like it's not looking that great even now (not that it's all that bad either but an extra death would definitely have an impact)

It's because I think Deathbomb gets worse and worse for town in the late game. I was already thinking this back at this post in N1.

Feeling big sad that there's not a vig to shoot Sabi during the night, given deathbomb is a hinderance for town (imo) and we would all be better off with the nametag gone.

Maybe I'm calculating the odds wrong. But in my mind, a Deathbomb _that we cannot track because people have already used their peeks_ just leads us to being afraid to DK actual scum, for fear of taking out a townie with them. It's going to freeze us up later on.

this is town reasoning

[Bonatogether]

jamie being mad oozes town (and pub)

[Bonatogether]

President Eden, explain yourself

I have.

I don’t particularly feel bad about this outcome aside from the obvious fact that we killed a townie.

If we were going to pick between snowy and Sabi then I found snowy more clearly town.

snowy called the shot, but I marshaled people to it because I thought snowy was town and worth trying to save. But I was also open for other votes, like Chaqa. Rumi and I were voting Chaqa with 30 minutes left. That other people, who had ample time to consider and move on these opportunities, chose to wait so late in the phase that we didn’t have time to deliberate and pick another target is not my fault.

about 72 hours ago you were totally gung-ho, get-snobyz. then you got 'convinced' in some weird thing i didn't fully understand and have now wrapped around to snowy being more clearly town than sabi at eod2. i have a hard time understanding this progression

[ghug]

President Eden, explain yourself

I have.

I don’t particularly feel bad about this outcome aside from the obvious fact that we killed a townie.

If we were going to pick between snowy and Sabi then I found snowy more clearly town.

snowy called the shot, but I marshaled people to it because I thought snowy was town and worth trying to save. But I was also open for other votes, like Chaqa. Rumi and I were voting Chaqa with 30 minutes left. That other people, who had ample time to consider and move on these opportunities, chose to wait so late in the phase that we didn’t have time to deliberate and pick another target is not my fault.

about 72 hours ago you were totally gung-ho, get-snobyz. then you got 'convinced' in some weird thing i didn't fully understand and have now wrapped around to snowy being more clearly town than sabi at eod2. i have a hard time understanding this progression

I think it's important to understand the weird thing before drawing conclusions.

[Bonatogether]

Jamie, please go to bed.

Oh go and fuck yourself really hard, Ghug.

You just killed an obvious town to save yourself and your scum mate Snowy.

I'm rescinding most of my trust points of Jamie. He's helpful, but this kind of anger and blame game is not accomplishing anything.

Instead of pointing the finger and shouting and swearing, we should be owning up to our mistakes in the EOD and coming together to figure this shit out. Not... this.

I thought Chaqa was sus and didn't hold firm on it. I should have taken a position and committed to it and not wavered. This is me owning up to what I feel I did wrong.

Sabi was town. We killed him. Instead of finger-pointing, lets all acknowledge fault for whatever roles we played and move forward.

players being mad still tells you something about them. when i saw that result i was confused and kinda irritated, so i understand being mad that town decided to shoot itself in the foot here

every post is a look into someone's brain and you should use that to understand how they think and how that's reflective of their alignment