Tiny Hunt I Game Thread

[Vecna]

Thats marvelous, if youre buying it then were lynching my real target Worcej

##Vote Worcej

[y2kjbk]

ok ##VOTE worcej

[Squigs44]

I'm so confused. I really wish I wasn't at work right now. If what you are implying is true Vecna, then this probably townclears Jamie, doesn't it?

[Jamiet99uk]

Thats marvelous, if youre buying it then were lynching my real target Worcej

##Vote Worcej

Do you still think that Squiggs is scum, tho?

[rdrivera2005]

Well if there are three witches still alive, I would buy that it's the three lowest posters today (worcej/rdrivera/squigs) as they try to let the remaining town flail.

This is logic is so shitty I can't believe you are town. Do you really think all scum are just talking in the witch QT and lurking here. Also, do you really changed your reads 360 and now is just putting me in a scum team with Squigs? And you said I wasn't looking for connections.
My scumreads are Squigs, Jamiet and y2k at this point, but I am not sure why Vecna is so sure there is still three witches alive.

[rdrivera2005]

Thats marvelous, if youre buying it then were lynching my real target Worcej

##Vote Worcej

Why Worcej? You are my most solid townread at this point, but I don't see much reason to follow you on him.

[y2kjbk]

Well if there are three witches still alive, I would buy that it's the three lowest posters today (worcej/rdrivera/squigs) as they try to let the remaining town flail.

This is logic is so shitty I can't believe you are town. Do you really think all scum are just talking in the witch QT and lurking here. Also, do you really changed your reads 360 and now is just putting me in a scum team with Squigs? And you said I wasn't looking for connections.
My scumreads are Squigs, Jamiet and y2k at this point, but I am not sure why Vecna is so sure there is still three witches alive.

If your scumreads are Squigs, Jamiet, and myself, then you clearly agree with Vecna that there are three witches still alive?

[y2kjbk]

I'm also not sure why you scumread me for having wild swings in who I think is scum given how the game has progressed.

[y2kjbk]

I guess you're claiming you scumread me more for my logic that scum would be lurking right now. I think it's fair to say that town scrambling in a no-reveal game would lead scum to want to generally lurk as much as possible to let the town either inadvertently reveal roles or fail to all unify, as we get to the end game and scum get in position to lynch for the win depending on the numbers. Because due to all the power roles, scum are less all-knowing than in a game with VT's. If I'm wrong and we got townies lurking and not playing right now, town is doomed.

[y2kjbk]

Last stream-of-thought post for the moment: I acknowledge I'm attributing how I personally play as scum to how others would, which isn't the best test for vetting scum since everyone has different play styles. Still, town can't afford to sit back at this point, and lurking == scummy in my mind.

[rdrivera2005]

Well if there are three witches still alive, I would buy that it's the three lowest posters today (worcej/rdrivera/squigs) as they try to let the remaining town flail.

This is logic is so shitty I can't believe you are town. Do you really think all scum are just talking in the witch QT and lurking here. Also, do you really changed your reads 360 and now is just putting me in a scum team with Squigs? And you said I wasn't looking for connections.
My scumreads are Squigs, Jamiet and y2k at this point, but I am not sure why Vecna is so sure there is still three witches alive.

If your scumreads are Squigs, Jamiet, and myself, then you clearly agree with Vecna that there are three witches still alive?

I think we have some serious problems in communication. The fact I read three people as possible scum doesn't mean I think they are scum together. In fact, the way both you and Jamiet jumped on Squigs so easily make me think you three can't because scum together.

[Squigs44]

Alright, I'm operating on the assumption that Vecna is town here. That means Y2k, Jamie, and damo are also all town for me. Remaining players are myself, Rdrivera, Yav, and worcej.
Assuming Vecna is correct and Bo is town. That means I can vote any of Rdrivera, Yav, or Worcej. I'm gonna put my trust in Vec, since town is likely screwed anyway if he is scum.
##vote worcej

[Vecna]

I'm so confused. I really wish I wasn't at work right now. If what you are implying is true Vecna, then this probably townclears Jamie, doesn't it?

Im purposefully not answering this

[rdrivera2005]

Last stream-of-thought post for the moment: I acknowledge I'm attributing how I personally play as scum to how others would, which isn't the best test for vetting scum since everyone has different play styles. Still, town can't afford to sit back at this point, and lurking == scummy in my mind.

I agree at some degree, but it's just look like you are trying to find reasons to follow Vecna and not really look into people. Pushing lurkers are an easy way for scum to put a vote without having ton really build a case. Look how ND lynch went.

And honestly I think I am doing a lot more effort then Damo, Yav or even Jamiet and you still put me in a lurker list, but of course this is my personal POV.

I will try to try to do some reading on you as I could be doing an OMGUS, but I have a busy day at work, so don't expect much from me before night.

##vote Squigs

[Jamiet99uk]

This is logic is so shitty I can't believe you are town. Do you really think all scum are just talking in the witch QT and lurking here. Also, do you really changed your reads 360 and now is just putting me in a scum team with Squigs? And you said I wasn't looking for connections.
My scumreads are Squigs, Jamiet and y2k at this point, but I am not sure why Vecna is so sure there is still three witches alive.

If your scumreads are Squigs, Jamiet, and myself, then you clearly agree with Vecna that there are three witches still alive?

I think we have some serious problems in communication. The fact I read three people as possible scum doesn't mean I think they are scum together. In fact, the way both you and Jamiet jumped on Squigs so easily make me think you three can't because scum together.

Where and when did I jump on Squiggs?
Fake news.

[Jamiet99uk]

Seriously.

When Vecna declared Squigs was his number one scumread, my response was to observe that Vecna's case was lacking in detail.

When Vecna moved from Squigs to his "real" top scumread, Worcej, my response was to ask Vecna to clarify whether or not he still had a genuine scumread on Squigs.

At no point today have I voted for Squigs.

Rdrivera's summary of all this is:

"Jamiet jumped on Squigs easily there!"

What the fuck?

[rdrivera2005]

Seriously.

When Vecna declared Squigs was his number one scumread, my response was to observe that Vecna's case was lacking in detail.

When Vecna moved from Squigs to his "real" top scumread, Worcej, my response was to ask Vecna to clarify whether or not he still had a genuine scumread on Squigs.

At no point today have I voted for Squigs.

Rdrivera's summary of all this is:

"Jamiet jumped on Squigs easily there!"

What the fuck?

You asked Vecna to vote for one of his scumreads, then when he voted Worcej you questioned him if he still thinks Squigs is scum. I thought you was implying you prefer Squigs over Worcej. Maybe I misunderstood. Anyway, how do you read Squigs and Worcej?

[Jamiet99uk]

I asked Vecna to vote for one of his scumreads because his vote was on me and he had just listed four potential scum, not including me. Duh.

I still don't see anything at all I did that represented "jumping on" to Squigs... I literally called out Vecna's case as weak and lacking detail.

I think Worcej may indeed be scum. Squiggs I am less confident of.

I will ##Vote Worcej

[worcej]

Thats marvelous, if youre buying it then were lynching my real target Worcej

##Vote Worcej

ok ##VOTE worcej

Alright, I'm operating on the assumption that Vecna is town here. That means Y2k, Jamie, and damo are also all town for me. Remaining players are myself, Rdrivera, Yav, and worcej.
Assuming Vecna is correct and Bo is town. That means I can vote any of Rdrivera, Yav, or Worcej. I'm gonna put my trust in Vec, since town is likely screwed anyway if he is scum.
##vote worcej

Am I the only one that still doesn't believe Vecna is 100% town? The only town thing he has for him is 'I am Lump'ed'. I am confused why anyone would directly sheep him right now - he is assuming that bo was not a witch and immediately going after a fresh new set of 3 people.

Things I am seeing in Vecna:

1. Inconsistent list of targets:
   D1 - Vecna was a proponent of a the ND train (ND now a confirmed town) - list of targets are:

   Probably town:
   yavuzovic
   worcej
   DoubtingThomas
   rdrivera2005
   Squigs44
   
   Somewhere in the middle:
   bo
   ezio
   
   People I wouldnt mind lynching:
   bozo
   ND
   damo
   y2kjbk
   Jamiet99uk

2. D2 - All-in with Squigs, continued to assume ND was witch and pushed this:

   I have a feeling that ND was scum and that the remaining two witches are Squigs and DoubtingThomas.
   
   Vote Squigs
   
   My largest townread in this game is now without doubt our lovely BOZO. Every town from the BOZO slot has been a purely town slot. He wasnt afraid to go against the grain on his Thomas read, and his reasoning was in fact pure unadulterated town reasoning. Thomas has felt a little off this game. Almost like he's just trying to get by on his accomplished meta of trying to be a teenage mutant ninja badass.
   
   My vote on squish is because every post he has made so far is feeling way too clean. There is no real outstanding unique type of opinion. It all feels too clinical. Too crafted. Too much fake scummy nonsense of "I have to sound towny" instead of just actually being towny. i might be wrong though, since it does have some towny smell to it, but so far I deem it fake'ish. And there was that weird thing he did where he voted Damo at EOD1, before quickly changing to ND. Almost like he wanted to show us really hard how he really did want to lynch Damo instead of ND. I find this pretty scummy behaviour, regardless of ND's aligntment.

3. D3 - Played it off that ND confirmed town is good (though he thought scum on D2 and added DT to that mix in the above quote), pushed a Jaime scum slip early and kept on him, and then presents this scum list under the assumption we have 3 left:

   Now ill give you the rest of the scumpool:
   
   Worcej
   Rdrivera
   and Y2k (but youre implying the implyable so its most likely just the first 2)
   
   Yes its 3 remaining. Bo_sox was town

   Issue with this list, his top two were town early in the game and suddenly we're scum? I'll take my lurking as possible scum behavior, but rdivera? That one felt like a left-field stretch to me. Also, bo is the only unconfirmed town player we have. You have to take the DT information we got as the best thing we could know right now, so I again struggle to believe that we're so unlucky that we are at 3 witches.

Honestly, Vecna is behaving the same exact way Foxcastle did in the last full mafia game - bouncing around, throwing up townies left and right and trying to get others to take each of us out on days.

##vote Vecna - I think we Lump'ed the wrong dude on D1...

[worcej]

Really guys, what has Vecna done to really make him a town read for you? Honest question here.