MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

To be more clear: my Vecna read is real, and I had a reason, but overstated my reasons for fun.

What is the reason?

So, I have noticed a general trend in how Vecna opens his games as town vs. scum, and he struck me as town this time. It’s mostly a vibe but it’s been right many times, similar to how I read you.

Eden's right that you've been weirdly silent about your read on me. Why is that?

[pyxxy]

aint really got a lot of time this weekend.

im just gonna do that peek thing and hope ill be oracled

jesus christ

[ghug]

That's why you don't like it. I've been asking you why you think it's scummy.

No, you're saying that that's all I'm saying. I've been saying I didn't like and I thought it was scummy for all the reasons that I've already explained. You're the one who seems confused why I would find you shading me to be scummy.

Then explain it? People call out things they think are scummy all the time. What makes this one scummy?

[President Eden]

I actually have some thoughts and reasons on this that I will type up later assuming I don’t die today (which would also solve that for you),

Yea I know it’s shitty I’m putting this together right as I know you’ve got D&D and aren’t around ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We’re about to fight a sea monster after the food break.

Oh and I polymorphed Jose into a gorilla

Great, now he’s going to take pictures of himself and shill his “Bored Gorilla” NFT alongside a subscription to Hustlers’ University

[pyxxy]

Random thought.

Scum are probably hesitant to (actually) peek because of self-oracle?

They probably want to spend Bus Driver on getting known nametags for themselves.

Lying about peeking your own nametag is probably a bad play but it is a play. An d scum can't ever confirm this by peeking, just in case you really did have the self-oracle.

Scum should live in fear of peeking until self-oracle is revealed. So...actually peeking as town is bad? Which is not news. idk just a random thought

[Chaqa]

On ghug… I’m gonna keep this one to myself for now, Eden style

[ghug]

Random thought.

Scum are probably hesitant to (actually) peek because of self-oracle?

They probably want to spend Bus Driver on getting known nametags for themselves.

Lying about peeking your own nametag is probably a bad play but it is a play. An d scum can't ever confirm this by peeking, just in case you really did have the self-oracle.

Scum should live in fear of peeking until self-oracle is revealed. So...actually peeking as town is bad? Which is not news. idk just a random thought

My sense is that town is probably overpeeking right now, but it's probably good to have a couple so that we have more info to track movement later.

[Bonatogether]

Worcej town stock decaying with that neon vote

i have zero idea why you're in an anti-tunnel on neon

[President Eden]

It pains me to look at that flustercuck of a vote spread but I guess it’s good because mafia has no idea where their bomb is going

[ghug]

It pains me to look at that flustercuck of a vote spread but I guess it’s good because mafia has no idea where their bomb is going

Embrace chaos

[ghug]

Hmm ok Sabi should probably be a wagon.

##VOTE besh

[pyxxy]

That's why you don't like it. I've been asking you why you think it's scummy.

No, you're saying that that's all I'm saying. I've been saying I didn't like and I thought it was scummy for all the reasons that I've already explained. You're the one who seems confused why I would find you shading me to be scummy.

Then explain it? People call out things they think are scummy all the time. What makes this one scummy?

I've already said multiple times why I thought you were being scummy in your comments on my posts! It was shading me! It was beyond a regular "this post seems suspicious", attempting to build a narrative around my activity. How many times do I need to say the same thing over and over ghug?

Also, it's not like your wagon is going anywhere. Rumi turned me down and Celaph always moves his vote to its true location within an hour of EOD.

Why are you so concerned with me scumreading you?

Because what's interesting is, that's obviously your concern, or you would just drop this since it's barely a minor topic in the broader context of D2. You seem to care a lot about one person's opinion. Yet you haven't said "you're wrong and here's why". I've been interpreting that as you being very nice and tolerant of my negative opinion. But maybe it's because I'm not wrong

brb going to do that EOD D1 TvT or TvS analysis that I promised

[Bonatogether]

If we can't make ghug second highest wagon. I don't mind making Bona second highest wagon

##VOTE Bona

insert jimmy mcnutty 'what did i do' gif

According to Eden it's explicitly nothing you did, merely what you didn't do

What do you make of that?

largely cringe

[Bonatogether]

@eden could the team really be snowy ghug Bona

This team accounts for 11 of the 1001 possible combinations of mafia teams at this time

i was going to make a joke about damo but i saw snowy made one 3 posts down

[snowy801]

##vote rdrivera

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't defend myself. I would even go as far as to say I don't know how, as I have never needed to. I find scum and then die

I am catching up and starting from here. I notice from the Bot that Snowy claims to have "found scum"... in the person of Princess Neon.

At this point, unless there have been any new revelations in the 9 pages that I have yet to read up on, I strongly, strongly townread Princess Neon.

So I will be interested to see how Snowy has "found scum" when the person he has found is probably my strongest townread. Let us see.

While not strictly untrue, it's blatantly disingenuous to connect that statement to my current gameplay. What do you think motivated you to do so?

Disagree.

Present a case on Neon.

You have so far failed to do so, yet you tell us you're the scum hunter general.

[Bonatogether]

perhaps if you ignore her claims of these unseen special solving methods, unseen as of about 20 pages back

Bona are you talking about just this from D1, or are there more Neon posts that I should be reading for context on her claims?

C. I do things that other people think is weird and read things nobody else reads into and I got voted into champs in my community because I can approach the game differently and see things nobody else sees.

iirc this was a running theme throughout the neon vs the world early game part of the game. they had a long post about player a and player b in response to me

[snowy801]

insert jimmy mcnutty 'what did i do' gif

According to Eden it's explicitly nothing you did, merely what you didn't do

What do you make of that?

largely cringe

That doesn't say much, as cringe is his default state

What else you got

[ghug]

No, you're saying that that's all I'm saying. I've been saying I didn't like and I thought it was scummy for all the reasons that I've already explained. You're the one who seems confused why I would find you shading me to be scummy.

Then explain it? People call out things they think are scummy all the time. What makes this one scummy?

I've already said multiple times why I thought you were being scummy in your comments on my posts! It was shading me! It was beyond a regular "this post seems suspicious", attempting to build a narrative around my activity. How many times do I need to say the same thing over and over ghug?

Also, it's not like your wagon is going anywhere. Rumi turned me down and Celaph always moves his vote to its true location within an hour of EOD.

Why are you so concerned with me scumreading you?

Because what's interesting is, that's obviously your concern, or you would just drop this since it's barely a minor topic in the broader context of D2. You seem to care a lot about one person's opinion. Yet you haven't said "you're wrong and here's why". I've been interpreting that as you being very nice and tolerant of my negative opinion. But maybe it's because I'm not wrong

brb going to do that EOD D1 TvT or TvS analysis that I promised

I'm 70% trying to understand your motivations and 30% grumpy because someone is wrong on the internet. I think I'm concluding you're town and worse at the game than I thought

Can you give more thoughts on the implications of snowy's peek claim?

[Jamiet99uk]

Rdrivera is among the minority of players who read the setup carefully and understood the name tags. If he is on the scumteam, they have probably already developed a good strategy around the name tags. The Deathbomb is probably in scum's possession in that case.

I might be intepreting the events wrong, but would rdr = scum be proof that Neon is town? If both Neon and rdr are scum, then Neon would have understood how all of the nametags worked from having it explained to her, and wouldn't have had the whole misunderstanding she did. I have trouble rationalizing the idea that any of that was faked.

I can't see a world where those people are scum partners