MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

I can’t explain it but ghug and Chaqa stick out to me as people who were very interested in a second wagon in ways which I perceived to be for its own sake

I remember an exchange with Chaqa where I asked him if there was a reason why he wanted another wagon “besides past experience telling us we need one” or something like that. My point being that we could pile up on snowy if he’s a foregone conclusion and then spend our actual effort elsewhere

Chaqa never really answered that to my knowledge, and I didn’t think anything of it, but the introduction of a compelling motive for mafia to care about another wagon for its own sake is pretty

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

I don’t know if it’s worth trying to push hard on this right now and as always there are plausible innocent explanations for it, but it has me thinkin I tell ya hwat

I’ve been pushing for an alternate wagon because I don’t like the snowy wagon…

Yea I realize after I say all that that most of my is in Chaqa’s general direction

Yeah I'm not particularly liking Chaqa.

I'm honestly kinda shook that he admitted his Vecna read was bullshit rather than doubling down.

[pyxxy]

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

Please Bona-chan, your SIMP analysis is our only hope!

[snowy801]

Friends (Romans, etc.)

I must go, my people need me. But I shall return when the hour is darkest

brb

[ghug]

Ah you did EOD1 and I've been writing EOD D1 so I missed the 1. I see.

What do I believe? I think I pretty much still believe that ghug's initial comment as seen in the quote is suspiciously strong for immediately posting after EOD. No "sorry for almost getting things mixed up with Vecna", no "pyxxy wtf was that?", just immediate accusation. It felt like a continuation of the D1 drunk comment.

Ok, let's take this at face value. What about this makes me scum?

I'm assuming you missed my responses/questions a few pages ago. I never said you were drunk.

I never said that you said I was drunk. Sorry that I keep shortening it to save space. You asked if I was and when I said no, you called me suspicious. Which I agree with you, is not itself on its face scummy.

But combined with being like "omg r u drunk? wtf", it felt very shady. It felt like setting an unconscious tone on my posts in the game, that I wasn't trying or was sloppy, blah blah you know how subtext works.

It wasn't "omg r u drunk? wtf", though. I asked if you were intoxicated (in those far more neutral terms) because that would have been a reasonable explanation for your post and I only wanted to pursue it if you weren't. It might be worth noting that I play this game intoxicated all the time.

Now, what's shady about me coming at you after EoD?

[President Eden]

Plus if he’s actually town and no voter, surely it’s free to miskill him right

##VOTE Chaqa

[ghug]

Plus if he’s actually town and no voter, surely it’s free to miskill him right

##VOTE Chaqa

Hype ##VOTE Chaqa

[pyxxy]

Ok, let's take this at face value. What about this makes me scum?

I'm assuming you missed my responses/questions a few pages ago. I never said you were drunk.

I never said that you said I was drunk. Sorry that I keep shortening it to save space. You asked if I was and when I said no, you called me suspicious. Which I agree with you, is not itself on its face scummy.

But combined with being like "omg r u drunk? wtf", it felt very shady. It felt like setting an unconscious tone on my posts in the game, that I wasn't trying or was sloppy, blah blah you know how subtext works.

It wasn't "omg r u drunk? wtf", though. I asked if you were intoxicated (in those far more neutral terms) because that would have been a reasonable explanation for your post and I only wanted to pursue it if you weren't. It might be worth noting that I play this game intoxicated all the time.

Now, what's shady about me coming at you after EoD?

What I wrote when Snowy asked me less than an hour ago:

I garnered from this comment that you would've believed otherwise. Misunderstanding on my part? Or have you changed your mind.

Ah you did EOD1 and I've been writing EOD D1 so I missed the 1. I see.

What do I believe? I think I pretty much still believe that ghug's initial comment as seen in the quote is suspiciously strong for immediately posting after EOD. No "sorry for almost getting things mixed up with Vecna", no "pyxxy wtf was that?", just immediate accusation. It felt like a continuation of the D1 drunk comment.

[ghug]

I never said that you said I was drunk. Sorry that I keep shortening it to save space. You asked if I was and when I said no, you called me suspicious. Which I agree with you, is not itself on its face scummy.

But combined with being like "omg r u drunk? wtf", it felt very shady. It felt like setting an unconscious tone on my posts in the game, that I wasn't trying or was sloppy, blah blah you know how subtext works.

It wasn't "omg r u drunk? wtf", though. I asked if you were intoxicated (in those far more neutral terms) because that would have been a reasonable explanation for your post and I only wanted to pursue it if you weren't. It might be worth noting that I play this game intoxicated all the time.

Now, what's shady about me coming at you after EoD?

What I wrote when Snowy asked me less than an hour ago:

I garnered from this comment that you would've believed otherwise. Misunderstanding on my part? Or have you changed your mind.

Ah you did EOD1 and I've been writing EOD D1 so I missed the 1. I see.

What do I believe? I think I pretty much still believe that ghug's initial comment as seen in the quote is suspiciously strong for immediately posting after EOD. No "sorry for almost getting things mixed up with Vecna", no "pyxxy wtf was that?", just immediate accusation. It felt like a continuation of the D1 drunk comment.

That's why you don't like it. I've been asking you why you think it's scummy.

[Chaqa]

Chaqa, it follows from this post that you should reveal whatever tell is coloring your Vecna read rather than save it to read him in future games.

Oh I made that up

Yeah that's what I thought.

To be more clear: my Vecna read is real, and I had a reason, but overstated my reasons for fun.

[President Eden]

I can’t explain it but ghug and Chaqa stick out to me as people who were very interested in a second wagon in ways which I perceived to be for its own sake

I remember an exchange with Chaqa where I asked him if there was a reason why he wanted another wagon “besides past experience telling us we need one” or something like that. My point being that we could pile up on snowy if he’s a foregone conclusion and then spend our actual effort elsewhere

Chaqa never really answered that to my knowledge, and I didn’t think anything of it, but the introduction of a compelling motive for mafia to care about another wagon for its own sake is pretty

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

I don’t know if it’s worth trying to push hard on this right now and as always there are plausible innocent explanations for it, but it has me thinkin I tell ya hwat

I thought about the Vecna wagon extensively (you may have heard) and sort of concluded that it seems fine but if you have a different perspective now’s the time to share

Re: Chaqa I mean I might be biased as the guy who literally said what he said first in different words but him being that way didn’t strike me as that off either. That being said Chaqa is a mystery to me, especially as he’s hiding behind the “oh woe I have no vote guess I don’t care” thing (which now that I think about it is emblematic on its own)

I don’t have any real opinion on Vecna’s alignment this game either way. So I guess I’m inherently vaguely suspicious that anybody would feel strongly enough about him being mafia to vote him out of all the other options.

I also fucking hated that damo basically died because people just yelled his name until he got voted off while he was gone for 12 hours. And while maybe it’s not reasonable to expect people to go look up “3.19,” if one had, one would learn that Path of Exile had a big content drop yesterday. And if you know anything about PoE it’s that it may be an even bigger time sink than Paradox games. So a savvy mafia player could easily anticipate that Vecna, who had already been on the lower end of thread presence, would be checked out for quite a long time on d2, and think “there’s our patsy for the bomb”

Especially since if Vecna is town he’s someone you basically have to kill at some point if you have any serious expectations of winning as mafia


All that to say that the wagon is probably “fine” insofar as Vecna hasn’t exactly bled town to me, but at the same time the circumstances make that wagon a little to me

[ghug]

Oh I made that up

Yeah that's what I thought.

To be more clear: my Vecna read is real, and I had a reason, but overstated my reasons for fun.

What is the reason?

[Vecna]

aint really got a lot of time this weekend.

im just gonna do that peek thing and hope ill be oracled

[President Eden]

pleasebenovoterpleasebenovoterpleasebenovoter

[ghug]

aint really got a lot of time this weekend.

im just gonna do that peek thing and hope ill be oracled

Bruh you have one vote

[Chaqa]

I can’t explain it but ghug and Chaqa stick out to me as people who were very interested in a second wagon in ways which I perceived to be for its own sake

I remember an exchange with Chaqa where I asked him if there was a reason why he wanted another wagon “besides past experience telling us we need one” or something like that. My point being that we could pile up on snowy if he’s a foregone conclusion and then spend our actual effort elsewhere

Chaqa never really answered that to my knowledge, and I didn’t think anything of it, but the introduction of a compelling motive for mafia to care about another wagon for its own sake is pretty

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

I don’t know if it’s worth trying to push hard on this right now and as always there are plausible innocent explanations for it, but it has me thinkin I tell ya hwat

I actually have some thoughts and reasons on this that I will type up later assuming I don’t die today (which would also solve that for you),

[President Eden]

I can’t explain it but ghug and Chaqa stick out to me as people who were very interested in a second wagon in ways which I perceived to be for its own sake

I remember an exchange with Chaqa where I asked him if there was a reason why he wanted another wagon “besides past experience telling us we need one” or something like that. My point being that we could pile up on snowy if he’s a foregone conclusion and then spend our actual effort elsewhere

Chaqa never really answered that to my knowledge, and I didn’t think anything of it, but the introduction of a compelling motive for mafia to care about another wagon for its own sake is pretty

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

I don’t know if it’s worth trying to push hard on this right now and as always there are plausible innocent explanations for it, but it has me thinkin I tell ya hwat

I actually have some thoughts and reasons on this that I will type up later assuming I don’t die today (which would also solve that for you),

Yea I know it’s shitty I’m putting this together right as I know you’ve got D&D and aren’t around ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Chaqa]

Yeah that's what I thought.

To be more clear: my Vecna read is real, and I had a reason, but overstated my reasons for fun.

What is the reason?

So, I have noticed a general trend in how Vecna opens his games as town vs. scum, and he struck me as town this time. It’s mostly a vibe but it’s been right many times, similar to how I read you.

[Chaqa]

I can’t explain it but ghug and Chaqa stick out to me as people who were very interested in a second wagon in ways which I perceived to be for its own sake

I remember an exchange with Chaqa where I asked him if there was a reason why he wanted another wagon “besides past experience telling us we need one” or something like that. My point being that we could pile up on snowy if he’s a foregone conclusion and then spend our actual effort elsewhere

Chaqa never really answered that to my knowledge, and I didn’t think anything of it, but the introduction of a compelling motive for mafia to care about another wagon for its own sake is pretty

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

I don’t know if it’s worth trying to push hard on this right now and as always there are plausible innocent explanations for it, but it has me thinkin I tell ya hwat

I actually have some thoughts and reasons on this that I will type up later assuming I don’t die today (which would also solve that for you),

Yea I know it’s shitty I’m putting this together right as I know you’ve got D&D and aren’t around ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We’re about to fight a sea monster after the food break.

Oh and I polymorphed Jose into a gorilla

[Vecna]

I mean, youre probably right, but it still sounds like horse doodoo

[pyxxy]

That's why you don't like it. I've been asking you why you think it's scummy.

No, you're saying that that's all I'm saying. I've been saying I didn't like and I thought it was scummy for all the reasons that I've already explained. You're the one who seems confused why I would find you shading me to be scummy.