MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[President Eden]

But more importantly Eden if not Sabi someone has to be scum

I’m having trouble filling this roster, even with, let alone without

Well there are 1001 possible teams, surely picking one can’t be hard

The interesting part about the bus driver play that I haven’t explored yet is that you would expect the mafia to be more concerned than normal with “having a viable second wagon” (to blow up with the deathbomb), and lo and behold there’s been an awful lot of chatter about setting up a viable second wagon

[ghug]

But more importantly Eden if not Sabi someone has to be scum

I’m having trouble filling this roster, even with, let alone without

Well there are 1001 possible teams, surely picking one can’t be hard

The interesting part about the bus driver play that I haven’t explored yet is that you would expect the mafia to be more concerned than normal with “having a viable second wagon” (to blow up with the deathbomb), and lo and behold there’s been an awful lot of chatter about setting up a viable second wagon

Not having a viable second wagon is also bad town play though.

[snowy801]

I blame Byz for all this nonsense

None of it my fault, naturally. I've never done anything wrong in a mafia game ever, as you all know

[President Eden]

But more importantly Eden if not Sabi someone has to be scum

I’m having trouble filling this roster, even with, let alone without

Well there are 1001 possible teams, surely picking one can’t be hard

The interesting part about the bus driver play that I haven’t explored yet is that you would expect the mafia to be more concerned than normal with “having a viable second wagon” (to blow up with the deathbomb), and lo and behold there’s been an awful lot of chatter about setting up a viable second wagon

Not having a viable second wagon is also bad town play though.

There’s a difference between “we shouldn’t let the whole day just be an inertia kill on snowy” (town) and “we need to work very hard to make sure we have another wagon [to blow up]” (mafia).

You can actually just have a runaway wagon, even on a townie, and still have it be a productive day if people are just leaving the vote parked in the “right” spot and then working on other things.

[Chaqa]

I think today should be snowy or rivera

Why rivera? Best sales pitch

Why not rivera?

[Chaqa]

They're setting it up so they can call their townplay sandbagging again the next time we underestimate them as scum.

Anyone who does something in one game with any regard for future games is playing the game the wrong way.

Chaqa, it follows from this post that you should reveal whatever tell is coloring your Vecna read rather than save it to read him in future games.

Oh I made that up

[snowy801]

Yeah but it's the specific language that's being used you know, not just the "hey let's find new wagons"

I want ghug as second highest wagon just in case snowy has my name tag.

The fact worcej chose neon (because she didn't want to answer his experience question) and not ghug is eyebrow raising

Worcej town stock decaying with that neon vote

Neon has obv town if you actually read the game

@eden could the team really be snowy ghug Bona

If we can't make ghug second highest wagon. I don't mind making Bona second highest wagon

##VOTE Bona

Kind of a marked departure from the tone of "just snowy dying, no particular alternatives being considered"

Yes, yes out of game friendship bro I lie about funerals in mafia games sue me

[snowy801]

I think today should be snowy or rivera

Why rivera? Best sales pitch

Why not rivera?

Well a snowy or rivera wagon may well end up exploding both. You'd need some significant confidence to end D2 on that kind of a bang, I'd think, so I don't particularly think "let's just do whatever and see where it goes" is enough of a platform to stand on anymore

But you do you

[BesharamSabi]

Lol that snowy case is peak shit lol

[snowy801]

Yeah but it's the specific language that's being used you know, not just the "hey let's find new wagons"

I want ghug as second highest wagon just in case snowy has my name tag.

The fact worcej chose neon (because she didn't want to answer his experience question) and not ghug is eyebrow raising

Worcej town stock decaying with that neon vote

Neon has obv town if you actually read the game

@eden could the team really be snowy ghug Bona

If we can't make ghug second highest wagon. I don't mind making Bona second highest wagon

##VOTE Bona

Kind of a marked departure from the tone of "just snowy dying, no particular alternatives being considered"

Yes, yes out of game friendship bro I lie about funerals in mafia games sue me

Particularly, the emphasis on "second highest wagon"

Like if you think I'm scummy, and that ghug/bona's scummy, why not just say "a wagon" rather than seeming to default to wanting to make sure snowy stays the "first highest wagon"

[ghug]

Anyone who does something in one game with any regard for future games is playing the game the wrong way.

Chaqa, it follows from this post that you should reveal whatever tell is coloring your Vecna read rather than save it to read him in future games.

Oh I made that up

Yeah that's what I thought.

[snowy801]

Lol that snowy case is peak shit lol

Please elaborate o' fountain of mafia wisdom

[President Eden]

I can’t explain it but ghug and Chaqa stick out to me as people who were very interested in a second wagon in ways which I perceived to be for its own sake

I remember an exchange with Chaqa where I asked him if there was a reason why he wanted another wagon “besides past experience telling us we need one” or something like that. My point being that we could pile up on snowy if he’s a foregone conclusion and then spend our actual effort elsewhere

Chaqa never really answered that to my knowledge, and I didn’t think anything of it, but the introduction of a compelling motive for mafia to care about another wagon for its own sake is pretty

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

I don’t know if it’s worth trying to push hard on this right now and as always there are plausible innocent explanations for it, but it has me thinkin I tell ya hwat

[BesharamSabi]

Anyway I'm fine with being eliminated. I'm vanilla town. Kill me then kill snowy and ghug.

Don't kill neon.

Kill me instead.

[ghug]

I can’t explain it but ghug and Chaqa stick out to me as people who were very interested in a second wagon in ways which I perceived to be for its own sake

I remember an exchange with Chaqa where I asked him if there was a reason why he wanted another wagon “besides past experience telling us we need one” or something like that. My point being that we could pile up on snowy if he’s a foregone conclusion and then spend our actual effort elsewhere

Chaqa never really answered that to my knowledge, and I didn’t think anything of it, but the introduction of a compelling motive for mafia to care about another wagon for its own sake is pretty

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

I don’t know if it’s worth trying to push hard on this right now and as always there are plausible innocent explanations for it, but it has me thinkin I tell ya hwat

I've been pushing for an alternate wagon because I don't like the snowy wagon...

[ghug]

Anyway I'm fine with being eliminated. I'm vanilla town. Kill me then kill snowy and ghug.

Don't kill neon.

Kill me instead.

This is an incredibly lame reaction.

[President Eden]

I can’t explain it but ghug and Chaqa stick out to me as people who were very interested in a second wagon in ways which I perceived to be for its own sake

I remember an exchange with Chaqa where I asked him if there was a reason why he wanted another wagon “besides past experience telling us we need one” or something like that. My point being that we could pile up on snowy if he’s a foregone conclusion and then spend our actual effort elsewhere

Chaqa never really answered that to my knowledge, and I didn’t think anything of it, but the introduction of a compelling motive for mafia to care about another wagon for its own sake is pretty

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

I don’t know if it’s worth trying to push hard on this right now and as always there are plausible innocent explanations for it, but it has me thinkin I tell ya hwat

I’ve been pushing for an alternate wagon because I don’t like the snowy wagon…

Yea I realize after I say all that that most of my is in Chaqa’s general direction

[snowy801]

I can’t explain it but ghug and Chaqa stick out to me as people who were very interested in a second wagon in ways which I perceived to be for its own sake

I remember an exchange with Chaqa where I asked him if there was a reason why he wanted another wagon “besides past experience telling us we need one” or something like that. My point being that we could pile up on snowy if he’s a foregone conclusion and then spend our actual effort elsewhere

Chaqa never really answered that to my knowledge, and I didn’t think anything of it, but the introduction of a compelling motive for mafia to care about another wagon for its own sake is pretty

I also feel like they’ve largely been ignoring each other. At a minimum Chaqa has only scarcely talked about ghug for game-related reasons. They’ve interacted on a variety of topics, like 5e and aliases on the bot and blablabla, but very little of it was actually on point for the game itself. ghug has been more careful to interact with Chaqa for relevant reasons but hasn’t really gotten anywhere with that either.

I don’t know if it’s worth trying to push hard on this right now and as always there are plausible innocent explanations for it, but it has me thinkin I tell ya hwat

I thought about the Vecna wagon extensively (you may have heard) and sort of concluded that it seems fine but if you have a different perspective now's the time to share

Re: Chaqa I mean I might be biased as the guy who literally said what he said first in different words but him being that way didn't strike me as that off either. That being said Chaqa is a mystery to me, especially as he's hiding behind the "oh woe I have no vote guess I don't care" thing (which now that I think about it is emblematic on its own)

[pyxxy]

I garnered from this comment that you would've believed otherwise. Misunderstanding on my part? Or have you changed your mind.

Ah you did EOD1 and I've been writing EOD D1 so I missed the 1. I see.

What do I believe? I think I pretty much still believe that ghug's initial comment as seen in the quote is suspiciously strong for immediately posting after EOD. No "sorry for almost getting things mixed up with Vecna", no "pyxxy wtf was that?", just immediate accusation. It felt like a continuation of the D1 drunk comment.

Ok, let's take this at face value. What about this makes me scum?

I'm assuming you missed my responses/questions a few pages ago. I never said you were drunk.

I never said that you said I was drunk. Sorry that I keep shortening it to save space. You asked if I was and when I said no, you called me suspicious. Which I agree with you, is not itself on its face scummy.

But combined with being like "omg r u drunk? wtf", it felt very shady. It felt like setting an unconscious tone on my posts in the game, that I wasn't trying or was sloppy, blah blah you know how subtext works.

[snowy801]

Anyway I'm fine with being eliminated. I'm vanilla town. Kill me then kill snowy and ghug.

Don't kill neon.

Kill me instead.

Why would you being vanilla town imply that I or ghug are scum?

Are you suggesting that you're just someone who's always right as town and therefore your innocence + finger pointing operates equivalent to a cop scan or something?

What motivates you to say something like this?