MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

It’s the inverse of why you town me - IMHO, when ghug is scum, he is usually more invested and I feel like he presents more of his own thinking. He tries to actually steer the ship versus being a passenger.

What are you making of ghug's pushes at the moment? I'm not getting exceptionally invested vibes from him overall, but he has certainly been working to put the Vecna wagon together while steering people away from Snowy.

I get the sense that ghug was drunk last night.

Hmmm… I don’t see it how you described, I’ll go re-examine it better.

[worcej]

I'm not seeing any reason to pick the Vecna wagon over anyone else who has had a similar stretch of low content. I'd probably prefer a wagon on rdr or bo at this point because they've given less.

I think Bo has given a lot more than Vecna has

[Jamiet99uk]

How do I add an alias to the bit 6? I was just thinking about adding Bofa but Neon would probably also be prudent.

I don’t think we have the power to do that. If we did I would have given people so many aliases

Darg / Peter can do it.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Sabi
##END

Chaqa, is Sabi still your top scumread and, if so, why?

Sabi was never a scumread.

You were endvoting on someone you did not scumread.
You left that vote in place for 13 hours during the mid-point of a day phase.

Ok.

[Jamiet99uk]

You postulated, when I pointed out to you that my case on rdrivera that you were immediately very supportive of was based on a town v town (damo v snowy) EOD1, that rdrivera’s decisionmaking was explainable with snowy as a teammate. I did not press you further on that theory then. I am now.

Since you are adamant that you have not made any attempt to identify snowy and rdrivera as teammates despite what I am quoting, how do you justify not trying to connect your two highest scumreads?

Ohhhh, you're right Bo_Sox, I stand corrected.

For some reason I momentarily forgot about Rdrivera's very odd EoD1 behaviour.

Ok then, maybe there is a connection there.

We should flip Snowy to help explore this further.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why tf are yall voting an obvious town

Do you mean Snowy?

Snowy is not an obvious town. Are you just still locked into your defence of Byz from yesterday?

[Jamiet99uk]

Anyways, I also hate runaway wagons.

##vote Princess

See my D1 for core reasoning.

Have you read over the stuff about the "Vanilla Town" name tag, from today?

Do you seriously believe that was wonderful acting from Neon?

[Chaqa]

How do I add an alias to the bit 6? I was just thinking about adding Bofa but Neon would probably also be prudent.

I don’t think we have the power to do that. If we did I would have given people so many aliases

Darg / Peter can do it.

Peter maybe. There’s no way to do it through the screen Darg and I use

[Jamiet99uk]

It’s the inverse of why you town me - IMHO, when ghug is scum, he is usually more invested and I feel like he presents more of his own thinking. He tries to actually steer the ship versus being a passenger.

What are you making of ghug's pushes at the moment? I'm not getting exceptionally invested vibes from him overall, but he has certainly been working to put the Vecna wagon together while steering people away from Snowy.

I get the sense that ghug was drunk last night.

Hmmm… I don’t see it how you described, I’ll go re-examine it better.

Ghug is definitely trying to drive counter-wagons to Snowy. Look at his voting record today.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not seeing any reason to pick the Vecna wagon over anyone else who has had a similar stretch of low content. I'd probably prefer a wagon on rdr or bo at this point because they've given less.

I think Bo has given a lot more than Vecna has

I do agree with that.

[Jamiet99uk]

@ Rumi Tobari
@ Bo_sox48

I encourage you to join the Snowy wagon or the Ghug wagon.

I do not think Bona is a viable flip today.
I really do not want to flip Neon.

[bo_sox48]

Bona is not viable, no.

How would you feel about pitting rdrivera against snowy? Seems worcej and celaph may be down.

##VOTE rdrivera

[bo_sox48]

You postulated, when I pointed out to you that my case on rdrivera that you were immediately very supportive of was based on a town v town (damo v snowy) EOD1, that rdrivera’s decisionmaking was explainable with snowy as a teammate. I did not press you further on that theory then. I am now.

Since you are adamant that you have not made any attempt to identify snowy and rdrivera as teammates despite what I am quoting, how do you justify not trying to connect your two highest scumreads?

Ohhhh, you're right Bo_Sox, I stand corrected.

For some reason I momentarily forgot about Rdrivera's very odd EoD1 behaviour.

Ok then, maybe there is a connection there.

We should flip Snowy to help explore this further.

I’d prefer it if you would explore your own thought further without the assistance of a flip.

[Jamiet99uk]

Bona is not viable, no.

How would you feel about pitting rdrivera against snowy? Seems worcej and celaph may be down.

##VOTE rdrivera

I'm happy for you to do that, yes. Go for it.

[Jamiet99uk]

You postulated, when I pointed out to you that my case on rdrivera that you were immediately very supportive of was based on a town v town (damo v snowy) EOD1, that rdrivera’s decisionmaking was explainable with snowy as a teammate. I did not press you further on that theory then. I am now.

Since you are adamant that you have not made any attempt to identify snowy and rdrivera as teammates despite what I am quoting, how do you justify not trying to connect your two highest scumreads?

Ohhhh, you're right Bo_Sox, I stand corrected.

For some reason I momentarily forgot about Rdrivera's very odd EoD1 behaviour.

Ok then, maybe there is a connection there.

We should flip Snowy to help explore this further.

I’d prefer it if you would explore your own thought further without the assistance of a flip.

My thoughts are as follows:

1. I think Snowy/Byx is scum.

2. Rdrivera seemed extremely hesitant to vote while Snowy/Byx was on the block, despite earlier saying he'd be around at EoD to ensure there wasn't a draw, and despite actually being present at EoD.

3. Rdrivera has otherwise contributed very little and nothing suggests to me that he is town. Very low impact in general.

4. It remains plausible that, under pressure of time and only accessing the thread on mobile, he was anxious about being seen to save a team mate (either via draw or via condemning Damo).

I don't know how much more I can develop these thoughts without new data.

[bo_sox48]

I feel like point 4 can go from “it is plausible” to having evidence.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Chaqa:

Thanks for all the +1's.
I'm glad you're enjoying my content so much.

[Jamiet99uk]

I feel like point 4 can go from “it is plausible” to having evidence.

Sorry could you elaborate on exactly what you mean?

[bo_sox48]

Sure. You already think snowy is scum. Put on your thinking cap and postulate what the “new data” you are looking for would look like and make a case based off of what you would find on a reread given that new data.

[Rumi Tobari]

@ Rumi Tobari
@ Bo_sox48

I encourage you to join the Snowy wagon or the Ghug wagon.

I do not think Bona is a viable flip today.
I really do not want to flip Neon.

Okay, i"m back, and I've kinda caught up on the thread, even if I'm not sure what to make of it. By the way, is flip a euphemism for kill as it seems in your statement, or does it have broader contexts than this?