MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

I hereby declare Vecna as town.

I will not regret this statement.

Citation needed.

Chaqa has looked at the list of team-mates provided in the Mafia Chatroom and has noticed that Vecna's name is not included. Simple.

No, it said he was on our team Jamie

[Chaqa]

Citation needed.

source:

I hereby declare Vecna as town.

I will not regret this statement.

Wow. Vecna is not suspicious to me, but he hasn't done anything gloifying either. You can't help us see what yiur eyes see?

Your lack of cooperation is... noted.

He had a number of very genuine posts in his opening. Here's a few:

Yes, who needs brainbomb

fuckers

Vecna, I guarantee you there's nothing worth reading up to this point. Scum-buds promise.

isnt that the whole point of the game?

sit behind your PC, spamming streams of endless shite, and chuckling to yourself knowing that anyone who doesnt read it and praises your poetic genious is somehow the bad guy.

I would never do that to any of you.

I think ill resort to proving my townyness this game by mediocre shittalking, snowy style

[Jamiet99uk]

Citation needed.

Chaqa has looked at the list of team-mates provided in the Mafia Chatroom and has noticed that Vecna's name is not included. Simple.

While this admittedly gave me a good laugh. Is this purely supposition (and reads a bit memey to me), or are you aware of facts that back this up?

I am speculating, of course.

[Jamiet99uk]

See how Byz ran off as soon as I exposed his scum tactics.

He literally said he's busy. The world doesn't revolve around you Jamie

The Fat Controller laughed.

[Jamiet99uk]

I like Jaime pestering me and others about his own wagon, a scum is more likely to just say "oh, fair enough, but you're wrong" Usually. Depends on meta.

Still see my original reasons to vote as good ones. Jamie doesn't seem super interested in original scumhunting. Which I'm just gonna be less forgiving of if there's a lot of noise in the thread. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you bandwagon voted Eden and then just parked there all day, right?

You are wrong. So far today I have at various times voted for Damo, Eden, Bo_Sox and then Eden again.

Not only are you wrong, but, more worryingly, your accusations against me have changed in a totally inconsistent manner.

Originally you accused me of, quote: "Blindly voting lowposters".

Now you are (incorrectly) asserting that I "Bandwagon voted Eden and just parked there all day"

These two statements are directly in conflict.

Eden is not a "low poster". Eden has been very active all day. He is the second-highest poster in the entire game.

How can you assert that I was only voting low-posters if you simultaneously thought I had my vote parked on Eden all day?

I can only conclude at this time that your push on me is fake and you wrongly believe me to be an easy mis-kill. I deduce that you are SCUM.

##Vote Byz

Lol

Well?

Explain.

How could you simultaneously accuse me of being scum because of voting for "low posters" whilst at the same time apparently thinking my vote was parked on President Eden the whole time?

It's unpossible for both those things to be correct.

[dargorygel]

source:

Wow. Vecna is not suspicious to me, but he hasn't done anything gloifying either. You can't help us see what yiur eyes see?

Your lack of cooperation is... noted.

He had a number of very genuine posts in his opening. Here's a few:

Vecna, I guarantee you there's nothing worth reading up to this point. Scum-buds promise.

isnt that the whole point of the game?

sit behind your PC, spamming streams of endless shite, and chuckling to yourself knowing that anyone who doesnt read it and praises your poetic genious is somehow the bad guy.

I would never do that to any of you.

I think ill resort to proving my townyness this game by mediocre shittalking, snowy style

Thanks
I could see those posts from vecna in particular being scum, too, though.

[Rumi Tobari]

Chaqa has looked at the list of team-mates provided in the Mafia Chatroom and has noticed that Vecna's name is not included. Simple.

While this admittedly gave me a good laugh. Is this purely supposition (and reads a bit memey to me), or are you aware of facts that back this up?

I am speculating, of course.

Fair enough. It didn't hurt to ask though.

source:

Wow. Vecna is not suspicious to me, but he hasn't done anything gloifying either. You can't help us see what yiur eyes see?

Your lack of cooperation is... noted.

He had a number of very genuine posts in his opening. Here's a few:

Vecna, I guarantee you there's nothing worth reading up to this point. Scum-buds promise.

isnt that the whole point of the game?

sit behind your PC, spamming streams of endless shite, and chuckling to yourself knowing that anyone who doesnt read it and praises your poetic genious is somehow the bad guy.

I would never do that to any of you.

I think ill resort to proving my townyness this game by mediocre shittalking, snowy style

Speaking of memey. My first reaction to all this is to roll my eyes, ignore it, and write it off as memes. But a more suspicious part of me suspects that that reaction is your aim here.

[Chaqa]

Yes, but I have a secret method to determining Vecna's alignment that I will share later.

[Chaqa]

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Speaking of memey. My first reaction to all this is to roll my eyes, ignore it, and write it off as memes. But a more suspicious part of me suspects that that reaction is your aim here.

No, I'm completely serious. I find these sorts of posts much more insightful than so-called "serious" ones as the serious ones are often crafted to an agenda or a purpose.

[Rumi Tobari]

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Speaking of memey. My first reaction to all this is to roll my eyes, ignore it, and write it off as memes. But a more suspicious part of me suspects that that reaction is your aim here.

No, I'm completely serious. I find these sorts of posts much more insightful than so-called "serious" ones as the serious ones are often crafted to an agenda or a purpose.

They... don't seem to indicate anything though? Do they?

And if they do is this a "I have no experience with Mafia and wouldn't understand" thing or a "I'm not familiar enough with Vecna to recognize the true meaning" thing?

[Chaqa]

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Speaking of memey. My first reaction to all this is to roll my eyes, ignore it, and write it off as memes. But a more suspicious part of me suspects that that reaction is your aim here.

No, I'm completely serious. I find these sorts of posts much more insightful than so-called "serious" ones as the serious ones are often crafted to an agenda or a purpose.

They... don't seem to indicate anything though? Do they?

And if they do is this a "I have no experience with Mafia and wouldn't understand" thing or a "I'm not familiar enough with Vecna to recognize the true meaning" thing?

I'd say it's 10% the former, 75% the latter, and 15% THC

[dargorygel]

Yes, but I have a secret method to determining Vecna's alignment that I will share later.

If so. Keep it to yourself, for it would be a Power Beyond All Powers in This Realm. And the mere mention of it might bring scumreads upon your brow.

[Byz]

Anger does feel real though

## UNVOTE

[Jamiet99uk]

Anger does feel real though

## UNVOTE

You need to do that without the space.

Like this:

##UNVOTE

Ok?

Now you try it.

[President Eden]

No, I'm completely serious. I find these sorts of posts much more insightful than so-called "serious" ones as the serious ones are often crafted to an agenda or a purpose.

They... don't seem to indicate anything though? Do they?

And if they do is this a "I have no experience with Mafia and wouldn't understand" thing or a "I'm not familiar enough with Vecna to recognize the true meaning" thing?

I'd say it's 10% the former, 75% the latter, and 15% THC

That didn’t add up to 100, you sure it’s only 15% THC?

[Chaqa]

They... don't seem to indicate anything though? Do they?

And if they do is this a "I have no experience with Mafia and wouldn't understand" thing or a "I'm not familiar enough with Vecna to recognize the true meaning" thing?

I'd say it's 10% the former, 75% the latter, and 15% THC

That didn’t add up to 100, you sure it’s only 15% THC?

Bruh

[President Eden]

I think I’ve landed on explaining.

@Jamie: My records reflect that we reviewed this setup 3-4 weeks ago. By the time I personally viewed it, ghug and Chaqa had already constructively analyzed it and offered sound recommendations for balance, so aside from a relatively brief review to make sure I didn’t see anything that went unaddressed, I didn’t spend a lot of time on the setup. (I did not see anything that went unaddressed.)

I then proceeded not to look at any aspect of it at all until I got my role PM yesterday.

So when I jokingly implied I hadn’t read it and didn’t know what to do… that I actually hadn’t read it was a joke, but I genuinely hadn’t thought about the setup in weeks, and didn’t really try to work out exactly how I would attack it as a player.

I’m a bit mystified as to why you are framing this as a “lie” when it is plainly (to me anyway) a joke… I thought you were playing it up as a bit of your own, but you seem actually serious about it. Historically I struggle to know what to make of that, and this is no exception.

What interests me is:

1. At least four people made specific reference to your statement about not having read the setup.

2. One of those people specifically said they were voting you for this reason.

But despite (1) and (2), and despite you being active and posting lots of other remarks, you did not refer to this issue at all, until I repeatedly brought it up.

Why was that? Why did you just ignore the point despite having votes on you?

@PE: Since I seem to mystify you, let me expand further.

I'm not scumreading you because "oh he lied about the setup review, GOTCHA!". If you think that's what I'm suggesting, please let me reassure you, it's not.

Rather, I am puzzled about why, when multiple people made reference to your statement about having "not read the setup", and at least one of them said they were voting you because of it, you simply breezed over it and did not respond / clarify / comment at all, until I started talking about your lack of response.

That's what currently puzzles me about you.

I felt my joke was pretty obviously a joke, and that all the responses were riffing off of that with their own jokes, including your vote, which I also thought was a joke. And in the event that it became necessary to explain any aspect of that sequence, I reckoned I just needed to point out that it was a joke, and that would be that. So why take a bunch of time taking seriously what appeared to me to be a bunch of jokes?

[President Eden]

I'd say it's 10% the former, 75% the latter, and 15% THC

That didn’t add up to 100, you sure it’s only 15% THC?

Bruh

Made you look.

[Jamiet99uk]

@PE: Since I seem to mystify you, let me expand further.

I'm not scumreading you because "oh he lied about the setup review, GOTCHA!". If you think that's what I'm suggesting, please let me reassure you, it's not.

Rather, I am puzzled about why, when multiple people made reference to your statement about having "not read the setup", and at least one of them said they were voting you because of it, you simply breezed over it and did not respond / clarify / comment at all, until I started talking about your lack of response.

That's what currently puzzles me about you.

I felt my joke was pretty obviously a joke, and that all the responses were riffing off of that with their own jokes, including your vote, which I also thought was a joke. And in the event that it became necessary to explain any aspect of that sequence, I reckoned I just needed to point out that it was a joke, and that would be that. So why take a bunch of time taking seriously what appeared to me to be a bunch of jokes?

Ok. It was not clear to me that all of the votes on you were joke votes, especially as some people were endvoting you. But you assumed them all to be so. Noted and thanks for clarifying.

[President Eden]

@PE: Since I seem to mystify you, let me expand further.

I'm not scumreading you because "oh he lied about the setup review, GOTCHA!". If you think that's what I'm suggesting, please let me reassure you, it's not.

Rather, I am puzzled about why, when multiple people made reference to your statement about having "not read the setup", and at least one of them said they were voting you because of it, you simply breezed over it and did not respond / clarify / comment at all, until I started talking about your lack of response.

That's what currently puzzles me about you.

I felt my joke was pretty obviously a joke, and that all the responses were riffing off of that with their own jokes, including your vote, which I also thought was a joke. And in the event that it became necessary to explain any aspect of that sequence, I reckoned I just needed to point out that it was a joke, and that would be that. So why take a bunch of time taking seriously what appeared to me to be a bunch of jokes?

Ok. It was not clear to me that all of the votes on you were joke votes, especially as some people were endvoting you. But you assumed them all to be so. Noted and thanks for clarifying.

Your vote was the only vote that was tied to the joke about not reading the setup. There were other votes for other silly reasons which I recapped somewhere. (Not too important now as all those votes have been moved.)