MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[President Eden]

Doppelgänger is fine

But I can’t be fucked to search 17 names on tenor again so I’m gonna need the actual name this time, sorry

[Princess Neon]

Sorry that question sucks and always will *shrugs* kill me over it I won't answer it

It's exclusively used to paint a picture of a new player in over their head to discredit them or an old player who sucks because they don't understand the principles of the game of mafia. You can infer by experience Level from my play

I mean, I won’t deny the possibility of this happening but my intent was to try to learn more about you.

In my explicit case, I know nothing about you and want to establish some sort of way to look at you as a player. Otherwise I am kinda stuck in the ‘gotta kill one of the MU players Sabi brought over’ to figure out the group.

So you can stand by your principles here and hopefully die for it or try to engage with a new group so we learn you. Your call.

I will stand by my principles. I'm willing to answer questions about me so you can learn except where they are useless in reading me in any way and only serve to fit the narrative you desire to create.

My experience quite literally does not matter in any form. I can be the best new player you've ever seen and find the mafia in one day. I could be the worst veteran ever and single handedly lose the game.

It's not necessarily hard however to figure out my experience level just based on the words I use and the things I say. And you can use that however you like right or wrong.

[Rumi Tobari]

Neon is town but I will let yall figure that out but I swear to God if you scare her off I will send you to the shadow relm.

I don't know either of you, but I agree So. How do you know she's town. You're saying that with certainty but offering no argument to back up this statement of fact.

I am not going to just trust Sabi’s opinions of you over figuring you out on my own.

With that said, I absolutely agree with this statement. Speaking for Neon does not help me learn anything about her.

ok.

the facts are spewing out from how people are interacting and perhaps the most crucial single piece of information is your alignment, because a lot of the action has centered around you, how people interact with you, and how other people react to those interactions. not necessarily now, but putting down some thoughts on some people (how about me/eden/sabi/byz/neon, as the main discussers in this part?) have been

Blah, the problem with reading people for me is htat it relies on turning a subjective impression into an objective viewpoint. Regardless of subjectivity, there is and isn't a correct interpetation of people's actions.

With more context on Eden, I'm less suspicious, I'm unopinionated towards Neon, not enough data. I 'm a tiny ashamed to admit I haven't paid too close attention to Sabi.

You seem pretty trustworthy, but that could just be engaging with a new player. Byz I don't know what to think about at this point watching the debate unfold on their behavior.

subjective doesn't necessarily mean wrong - there is a definite answer that you can find.

goated reads

im pocketed now
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I'd like to reevaluate my opinion on Neon. She could go either way, but it feels like she's getting somewhat defensive, and while it doesn't point to anything conclusive at this time, it is a thing that is making me slighly wary and giving me a feeling of being a bit on edge.

[Princess Neon]

Doppelgänger is fine

But I can’t be fucked to search 17 names on tenor again so I’m gonna need the actual name this time, sorry

It was Byz

At this point I'm kinda off that train though and looking elsewhere

[Rumi Tobari]

Goddamnit. Stupid quotes. Its been too long since I've used bbcode

[damo666]

LOL

Who says this about themeslves?

It wasn't about me

Who was it about?

[President Eden]

Doppelgänger is fine

But I can’t be fucked to search 17 names on tenor again so I’m gonna need the actual name this time, sorry

It was Byz

At this point I'm kinda off that train though and looking elsewhere

Oh I could see how that became DVD or somethin

I think he’s ok for now, with a mental note for later

[Princess Neon]

Goddamnit. Stupid quotes. Its been too long since I've used bbcode

Just quote one thing at a time and create pages of you responding to things.

~~I actually do prefer that to wall posts but everyone likes doing things differently and I'm not saying you should or shouldn't actually do this~~

[damo666]

Neon is town but I will let yall figure that out but I swear to God if you scare her off I will send you to the shadow relm.

What is relm?

[Bonatogether]

Not cap. I'm in Byz game on playdip and in a fortress of lies game as well. I have a forum mafia problem and I blame Bona for showing me mu

links or it didn't happen

https://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/vie ... 06&t=62489

Under the same name as here

https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/uminek ... /2953/3902

Under the name Sadbi

too busy, didn't verify

[Rumi Tobari]

Neon is town but I will let yall figure that out but I swear to God if you scare her off I will send you to the shadow relm.

What is relm?

The Shadow Realm is where the villains sent you in the 4kids dub of Yu-Gi-Oh because the censors wouldn't allow them to say that they're going to kill you.

[Princess Neon]

Who says this about themeslves?

It wasn't about me

Who was it about?

Rumi I've been pretty clear about that this whole time.

Rumi is the most obvious town who ever towned. This play is not even remotely scum indicative.

I'm still well within both my town and scum range.

[Bonatogether]

I guess so - because it’s rather unhelpful to withhold information from people to try to learn more about you simply because of an inherently meh principle when you’re able to have players like Sabi flaunt their knowledge about you in front of us.

Sorry that question sucks and always will *shrugs* kill me over it I won't answer it

It's exclusively used to paint a picture of a new player in over their head to discredit them or an old player who sucks because they don't understand the principles of the game of mafia. You can infer by experience Level from my play

i don't think that's an entirely fair reaction. I don't see why it's not a legitimate ask

[Princess Neon]

Neon is town but I will let yall figure that out but I swear to God if you scare her off I will send you to the shadow relm.

What is relm?

The Shadow Realm is where the villains sent you in the 4kids dub of Yu-Gi-Oh because the censors wouldn't allow them to say that they're going to kill you.

They also edited out the guns but didn't reanimate the scenes and its freaking hilarious

[Bonatogether]

I enjoy already Princess Neon's presence. I have a growing concern about a "me against the world " mentality and style. This might be scum- related. Or it might be meta, which we aren't privy to. It stands out to me that rumi and sabi are not included in the Hostile World. They are associated outside this game. It seems. But does thst make it worse or better? I note that when eden and chaqa were buddies, they tended to be harsher in game... going to watch, i guess.

Anyway, gone for a while

i would buy a book of the thoughts of darg

[Rumi Tobari]

links or it didn't happen

https://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/vie ... 06&t=62489

Under the same name as here

https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/uminek ... /2953/3902

Under the name Sadbi

too busy, didn't verify

Took a quick check after seeing this, Sabi is in both games.

[Bonatogether]

Sorry that question sucks and always will *shrugs* kill me over it I won't answer it

It's exclusively used to paint a picture of a new player in over their head to discredit them or an old player who sucks because they don't understand the principles of the game of mafia. You can infer by experience Level from my play

Ah. So from that perspective, does my lack of experience count against me and is everyone planning to use it to discredit me?

no. people play to win and inexperienceness is not inherently bad

[Bonatogether]

It's exclusively used to paint a picture of a new player in over their head to discredit them or an old player who sucks because they don't understand the principles of the game of mafia. You can infer by experience Level from my play

Ah. So from that perspective, does my lack of experience count against me and is everyone planning to use it to discredit me?

It likely will be at some point I think yes.

cynical

[Princess Neon]

Sorry that question sucks and always will *shrugs* kill me over it I won't answer it

It's exclusively used to paint a picture of a new player in over their head to discredit them or an old player who sucks because they don't understand the principles of the game of mafia. You can infer by experience Level from my play

i don't think that's an entirely fair reaction. I don't see why it's not a legitimate ask

In your experience how often is the question asked genuinely and without motive because in my very substantial experience the percentage chance of that being true is somewhere around 15% and I find it's better to never answer

I get asked this question in literally every single game I play outside my home forum I used to answer it. It's a toxic question more times than not and it is one of the only mafia things I refuse to compromise on or answer. I've died for it before I'm fine with dying for it again

[BesharamSabi]

Neon is town but I will let yall figure that out but I swear to God if you scare her off I will send you to the shadow relm.

I don't know either of you, but I agree So. How do you know she's town. You're saying that with certainty but offering no argument to back up this statement of fact.

I am not going to just trust Sabi’s opinions of you over figuring you out on my own.

With that said, I absolutely agree with this statement. Speaking for Neon does not help me learn anything about her.

ok.

the facts are spewing out from how people are interacting and perhaps the most crucial single piece of information is your alignment, because a lot of the action has centered around you, how people interact with you, and how other people react to those interactions. not necessarily now, but putting down some thoughts on some people (how about me/eden/sabi/byz/neon, as the main discussers in this part?) have been

Blah, the problem with reading people for me is htat it relies on turning a subjective impression into an objective viewpoint. Regardless of subjectivity, there is and isn't a correct interpetation of people's actions.

With more context on Eden, I'm less suspicious, I'm unopinionated towards Neon, not enough data. I 'm a tiny ashamed to admit I haven't paid too close attention to Sabi.

You seem pretty trustworthy, but that could just be engaging with a new player. Byz I don't know what to think about at this point watching the debate unfold on their behavior.

subjective doesn't necessarily mean wrong - there is a definite answer that you can find.

goated reads

im pocketed now

I'd like to reevaluate my opinion on Neon. She could go either way, but it feels like she's getting somewhat defensive, and while it doesn't point to anything conclusive at this time, it is a thing that is making me slighly wary and giving me a feeling of being a bit on edge.
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Rumi I posted a vibe check. I explained. Why I think she's town.