I don't know? Maybe? I have no idea how socialization really works geneerally. I kind of imagine if he was town he'd just kind of ignore me. Or push to vote me off because I'm a liability?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:42 ami will say that you should never sit down or shut up in this game - it's way more fun to be wrong than to be quiet. i get that a lot of what other people are posting in a more serious way is not easy stuff to pick up off of as a new player (how people usually play, for example, is totally not there for you). however, if you were scum, what are your goals? how do you accomplish that? what does a constructive town player look like? even if you're wrong or off doing something that no one else understands, you add something by other people interacting with it.Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:36 amNo idea. It feels like a ton of things I'm supposed to have opinions on I barely notice, but the things I do have opinions on are things I shouldn't. I don't know what to think anymore. Kinda lowkey feels like I should just sit down, shut up, and let the big kids do their thing because I'm out of place and don't really belong.
Was only suspicious of Eden because there was too much interest in engaging with me and feeling out my view that nobody else had done. I often assume if anyone is interested in me, my interests, my opinions, or just what I have to say, there's an ulterior motive
that's kinda rambly but just generally try and create information and use the fact that you know your role to extrapolate.
interesting re: eden. do you think if he was town, he wouldn't try and engage you in the same way?
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I think this is probably a joke or at least I hope so.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:53 amFor whatever reason, this entire fucking post strikes me as scummy. I can explain it, because I am a townsperson. I do not oversell myself because that's no bueno.Byz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:58 pmFor whatever reason, "I think I follow you" in this strikes me as scummy. Can't quite explain it, but it's too agreeable in a way that doesn't feel like it aims to solve. I'm usually pretty good at these feel reads.President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:37 pm
I think I follow you—you were thinking about proposing a plan that would force some action, which would trigger reactions from the other players that would allow us to sort.
As it happens, this sort of occurred; Byz voted you then decided your behavior was indicative of a newer town player, while I questioned your reasoning and haven’t stated my conclusion. What do you think about our two reactions?
Actually like this vote for more than just pressure.
Actually I'm gonna ##vote Byz
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inb4 sabi calls you a deadbeat
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i do notBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:42 amYou love to see itPresident Eden (4) BesharamSabi* Byz* dargorygel* Chaqa
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for a just-so story that’s demonstrably untrue?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:06 amI really like this post. Not so sure about Eden as I don’t read him well, but many townie points to ByzByz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:58 pmFor whatever reason, “I think I follow you” in this strikes me as scummy. Can’t quite explain it, but it’s too agreeable in a way that doesn’t feel like it aims to solve. I’m usually pretty good at these feel reads.President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:37 pm
I think I follow you—you were thinking about proposing a plan that would force some action, which would trigger reactions from the other players that would allow us to sort.
As it happens, this sort of occurred; Byz voted you then decided your behavior was indicative of a newer town player, while I questioned your reasoning and haven’t stated my conclusion. What do you think about our two reactions?
Actually like this vote for more than just pressure.
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it's day 1. would never happen without a large contingent of online memersBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:51 amThe pressure of being hammered. He mentioned you and Chaqa would quick hammer himBonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:50 amwhat pressure?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:41 pm
Yea but it's more fun to see eden squirm when he's under pressure
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what are you gonna do about it?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:55 amBad voteBonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:53 amFor whatever reason, this entire fucking post strikes me as scummy. I can explain it, because I am a townsperson. I do not oversell myself because that's no bueno.Byz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:58 pm
For whatever reason, "I think I follow you" in this strikes me as scummy. Can't quite explain it, but it's too agreeable in a way that doesn't feel like it aims to solve. I'm usually pretty good at these feel reads.
Actually like this vote for more than just pressure.
Actually I'm gonna ##vote Byz
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It took me an embarrassingly long time (read: until this post) to realize bo was actually in the gameghug wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:42 amWould you hammer bo so that he doesn’t have the opportunity to make the new folks feel unwelcome, though?President Eden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:39 amThe irony is that I have typically said that we need to hammer more often, cuz people just obviously make up their minds and aren’t changing them, but let the game stagnate instead of moving on.
But I’m also too much of a softie to follow through usually.
What time zone are you?
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for me, the 'agreeableness is vaguely scummy' and especially the 'i am pretty good at these feel reads' set off a ton of alarm bells - what about it makes you like it?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:06 amI really like this post. Not so sure about Eden as I don't read him well, but many townie points to ByzByz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:58 pmFor whatever reason, "I think I follow you" in this strikes me as scummy. Can't quite explain it, but it's too agreeable in a way that doesn't feel like it aims to solve. I'm usually pretty good at these feel reads.President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:37 pm
I think I follow you—you were thinking about proposing a plan that would force some action, which would trigger reactions from the other players that would allow us to sort.
As it happens, this sort of occurred; Byz voted you then decided your behavior was indicative of a newer town player, while I questioned your reasoning and haven’t stated my conclusion. What do you think about our two reactions?
Actually like this vote for more than just pressure.
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I already did.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:08 aminb4 sabi calls you a deadbeat
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Make your neighbors tree cut off your power againBonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:10 amwhat are you gonna do about it?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:55 amBad voteBonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:53 am
For whatever reason, this entire fucking post strikes me as scummy. I can explain it, because I am a townsperson. I do not oversell myself because that's no bueno.
Actually I'm gonna ##vote Byz
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you monsterBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:14 amMake your neighbors tree cut off your power again
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I've got nothing but my word. My word and the words of Sabi who can at least verify I was right about Bella on FoL in similar circumstances.President Eden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:52 amI’m gonna need a peer-reviewed study with appropriate sample size. Sorry, doppelgänger.Princess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:47 amRumi is town. Weird play style but town. Fite me.
I have a 100% accuracy on TRing weird play in games where I TR weird play that I'm willing to talk about.
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Why do you think he's wrong?President Eden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:09 amfor a just-so story that’s demonstrably untrue?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:06 amI really like this post. Not so sure about Eden as I don’t read him well, but many townie points to ByzByz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:58 pm
For whatever reason, “I think I follow you” in this strikes me as scummy. Can’t quite explain it, but it’s too agreeable in a way that doesn’t feel like it aims to solve. I’m usually pretty good at these feel reads.
Actually like this vote for more than just pressure.
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So basically I accidentally set of a malestrom of accusations, blame, and finger-pointing by accident.
Now I feel terrible. I can't social read at all, I can only do facts
I'm so sorry for being a screwup
Now I feel terrible. I can't social read at all, I can only do facts
I'm so sorry for being a screwup
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Can confirm, Bella is good at scum hunting even if mafia wiped us out because the set up was scum sided.Princess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:14 amI've got nothing but my word. My word and the words of Sabi who can at least verify I was right about Bella on FoL in similar circumstances.President Eden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:52 amI’m gonna need a peer-reviewed study with appropriate sample size. Sorry, doppelgänger.Princess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:47 amRumi is town. Weird play style but town. Fite me.
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You didn't screw up.Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:15 amSo basically I accidentally set of a malestrom of accusations, blame, and finger-pointing by accident.
Now I feel terrible. I can't social read at all, I can only do facts
I'm so sorry for being a screwup
This is mafia. It's all part of the Game.
Keep playing, you are doing way better then my first ever Game
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Clearly Eden is me I am Eden and we've decided to approach the game taking two totally different stances to increase the odds one of us will win in the end. You can never kill us all we are everywhere.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:58 amOK now I thought eden said this gjdvshsmcbjsaPrincess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:47 amRumi is town. Weird play style but town. Fite me.
I have a 100% accuracy on TRing weird play in games where I TR weird play that I'm willing to talk about.
Why am. I confusing you two
Also I'm catching up so...if I quote things that no longer matter I like to lice post my catch ups
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Neon and Eden are masonsPrincess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:17 amClearly Eden is me I am Eden and we've decided to approach the game taking two totally different stances to increase the odds one of us will win in the end. You can never kill us all we are everywhere.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:58 amOK now I thought eden said this gjdvshsmcbjsaPrincess Neon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:47 amRumi is town. Weird play style but town. Fite me.
I have a 100% accuracy on TRing weird play in games where I TR weird play that I'm willing to talk about.
Why am. I confusing you two
Also I'm catching up so...if I quote things that no longer matter I like to lice post my catch ups
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I don’t know that you’re a liability. And while you wouldn’t have any way of knowing this, I really dislike voting people off for being perceived “liabilities” (or really for any reason other than “X is mafia”). It creates a really toxic environment where people feel pressured to act like elitist snobs to get clout and don’t allow newer or struggling players to gain experience and grow out of their initial difficulties as players.Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:07 amI don’t know? Maybe? I have no idea how socialization really works geneerally. I kind of imagine if he was town he’d just kind of ignore me. Or push to vote me off because I’m a liability?
That said, you’re probably right that there’s a strain of town players who would do that. Not me though

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