MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

Whoops

Feel like this post makes them likely town though. It's the exact sort of post a newbie trying to solve makes to try to understand the game. One that would be much more likely to made if they had scum chat to turn to.

##UNVOTE for now, but my vote needs a new home

Ghug and Eden are both pinging me. Ghug mainly.

Vote one, I'll sheep you. Let's get them to 1 short of hammer with end and see what happens

Do it

[Byz]

##VOTE Eden

##end

[President Eden]

Ok, you figured someone would object then, and that we wouldn’t actually go through with the plan. Do I understand you right?

What would it reveal about the people who didn’t go through with the plan?

Sorry, let me try that again. You said they would be “scum, or have an ulterior motive.” Why do you think mafia wouldn’t go along with it? And what ulterior motive would non-mafia have not to go along with it?

As members of a community more familiar with eachother than I am with you. I assume mafia might know who the better players at identifying them are.

Conersely, an ulterior motive for a townie isn’t necessarily logical. Under the assumption townies don’t have any way if identifying eachother, they might have seen something socially in how someone acts in day 1 and identify them as mafia.

Jumping to conclusions on why someone breaks the agreement will only lead to problems. So the offending player would be expected to explain why they didn’t go along, and more importantly, why they choose the person they voted for.

Also a thing I would want to watch: is who comes to their defense, how quickly, and the attitude of other players towards the choice.

I think I follow you—you were thinking about proposing a plan that would force some action, which would trigger reactions from the other players that would allow us to sort.

As it happens, this sort of occurred; Byz voted you then decided your behavior was indicative of a newer town player, while I questioned your reasoning and haven’t stated my conclusion. What do you think about our two reactions?

[President Eden]

I’d really rather not, Bona and Chaqa are busy playing video games and would no-hesitation endhammer me if they saw the chance.

[ghug]

##VOTE Eden

##end

I am moderately surprised you didn't pick me, but ok.

##END

[President Eden]

Also the bot didn’t pick up darg’s vote on me :D

[Byz]

I’d really rather not, Bona and Chaqa are busy playing video games and would no-hesitation endhammer me if they saw the chance.

That would be hilarious

[BesharamSabi]

I’d really rather not, Bona and Chaqa are busy playing video games and would no-hesitation endhammer me if they saw the chance.

Sus Bona isn't here to spam.

[BesharamSabi]

##VOTE Eden

##end

I am moderately surprised you didn't pick me, but ok.

##END

Yea but it's more fun to see eden squirm when he's under pressure

[President Eden]

##VOTE Eden

##end

I am moderately surprised you didn’t pick me, but ok.

##END

Yea but it’s more fun to see eden squirm when he’s under pressure

Pressure?

[Rumi Tobari]

Newbies are so wonderfully... serious.

Feel like this post makes them likely town though. It's the exact sort of post a newbie trying to solve makes to try to understand the game. One that would be much more likely to made if they had scum chat to turn to.

##UNVOTE for now, but my vote needs a new home

Its a logic problem mindset. I'll always have this. Something of an obsession with understanding how and why. Mysteries are supposed to be solvable by the reader. (or in this case the participants)

This is Mafia, not And Then There Were None (and yes, this is a dig at Christie's writing)

[ghug]

##VOTE Eden

##end

I am moderately surprised you didn't pick me, but ok.

##END

Yea but it's more fun to see eden squirm when he's under pressure

Oh I missed your end and thought it was all about me. Less exciting then.

[BesharamSabi]

I am moderately surprised you didn’t pick me, but ok.

##END

Yea but it’s more fun to see eden squirm when he’s under pressure

Pressure?

You sound a wee bit scurred about Chaqa and Bona

[President Eden]

Yea but it’s more fun to see eden squirm when he’s under pressure

Pressure?

You sound a wee bit scurred about Chaqa and Bona

No, that’d only be five votes, not even close to worrying thresholds.

I think the broader plan is silly though.

[Byz]

Pressure?

You sound a wee bit scurred about Chaqa and Bona

No, that’d only be five votes, not even close to worrying thresholds.

I think the broader plan is silly though.

Why is that?

[BesharamSabi]

Pressure?

You sound a wee bit scurred about Chaqa and Bona

No, that’d only be five votes, not even close to worrying thresholds.

I think the broader plan is silly though.

Explain

[Rumi Tobari]

Sorry, let me try that again. You said they would be “scum, or have an ulterior motive.” Why do you think mafia wouldn’t go along with it? And what ulterior motive would non-mafia have not to go along with it?

As members of a community more familiar with eachother than I am with you. I assume mafia might know who the better players at identifying them are.

Conersely, an ulterior motive for a townie isn’t necessarily logical. Under the assumption townies don’t have any way if identifying eachother, they might have seen something socially in how someone acts in day 1 and identify them as mafia.

Jumping to conclusions on why someone breaks the agreement will only lead to problems. So the offending player would be expected to explain why they didn’t go along, and more importantly, why they choose the person they voted for.

Also a thing I would want to watch: is who comes to their defense, how quickly, and the attitude of other players towards the choice.

I think I follow you—you were thinking about proposing a plan that would force some action, which would trigger reactions from the other players that would allow us to sort.

As it happens, this sort of occurred; Byz voted you then decided your behavior was indicative of a newer town player, while I questioned your reasoning and haven’t stated my conclusion. What do you think about our two reactions?

I find his conclusion logical but dangerous. Detective mindset doesn't necessarily mean Decalogue compliant. For one thing, Ryz only has my statement of having no experience to go by.

For another thing, I've implied a lack of social skills, but my vast paragraphs of rambling clearly disprove that which come to think of it, cast doubt on everything I've ever said. Huh.

Putting aside how my social anxiety affects my ability to ramble about logic problems, mysteries, and death games. By assuming me townie, Ryz becomes closed to hte possibility that it might be an act.

But being too skeptical of everything and everyone isn't good either so... socialization games like this are kind of a delicate thing because others' perception of truth tends to be just as if not more important than actual truth.

[Byz]

Sorry, let me try that again. You said they would be “scum, or have an ulterior motive.” Why do you think mafia wouldn’t go along with it? And what ulterior motive would non-mafia have not to go along with it?

As members of a community more familiar with eachother than I am with you. I assume mafia might know who the better players at identifying them are.

Conersely, an ulterior motive for a townie isn’t necessarily logical. Under the assumption townies don’t have any way if identifying eachother, they might have seen something socially in how someone acts in day 1 and identify them as mafia.

Jumping to conclusions on why someone breaks the agreement will only lead to problems. So the offending player would be expected to explain why they didn’t go along, and more importantly, why they choose the person they voted for.

Also a thing I would want to watch: is who comes to their defense, how quickly, and the attitude of other players towards the choice.

I think I follow you—you were thinking about proposing a plan that would force some action, which would trigger reactions from the other players that would allow us to sort.

As it happens, this sort of occurred; Byz voted you then decided your behavior was indicative of a newer town player, while I questioned your reasoning and haven’t stated my conclusion. What do you think about our two reactions?

For whatever reason, "I think I follow you" in this strikes me as scummy. Can't quite explain it, but it's too agreeable in a way that doesn't feel like it aims to solve. I'm usually pretty good at these feel reads.

Actually like this vote for more than just pressure.

[BesharamSabi]

*eats popcorn*

[BesharamSabi]

Justin fits right in