Tiny Hunt I Game Thread

[Vecna]

At any rate, that probably was a great way to get through the night for us.

Ill be over there in the corner, performing inter-species erotica with my new panda friend.

[y2kjbk]

I don't know if this is significant but the only people on ND that weren't lumping Vecna are Bo_ Y2K and Ezio.

I like Ezio's reasoning late day 1 so to get the ball rolling

##VOTE Y2K

This seems like quite a lazy way to get the ball rolling but OK I guess.

[Ezio]

Damo can you describe my case for me? I'm not sure I remember what I said so long ago.

[y2kjbk]

My reads based on vibes

Town

Bo-
Vecna
DT
Rdr
Squiggs

Null/Townlean

Yav
Y2K

Null

ND

Null/Scum

Worcej
Bozo
Jamie
Ezio

##VOTE damo666. This post is the basis for my vote, not an OMGUS for his unexplained vote. This post alone providing vibe reads in the middle of D1 wouldn't be scummy if it was followed up with him challenging his reads and clarifying why his vibes were what they were as EOD approached. Instead, this post seems to serve as just weak grounds to justify his vote switching among his viby scum reads. That's scum play, working to ensure you can justify your actions, which is what I think damo was focused on D1, rather than actually trying to feel out these supposed vibes he had.

[y2kjbk]

Middle of D1, agrees we need a wagon based on bozo logic to avoid judge deciding the lynch:

OK bozo, I agree we need a wagon so

##VOTE EZIO

Right before EOD, wants to let the judge decide for some very small supposed increase in percentage that scum is lynched:

Sorry been missing and not caught up, just read end bits from which I gather ND is for the chop. I agree with Yav that letting Judge decide is 3/12 as oppo to 3/13.

Suggest therefore ND voters switch.

That's quite the conflict.

[y2kjbk]

Not middle of D1, 4.5 hours before EOD rather for the initial post.

[damo666]

Ezio your case was basically if you were scum you wouldn't be so bad. I'm paraphrasing.

Y2K vibes are vibes. Also you can see from the timings of my post I wasn't around until very close to EOD.

Yav - yes 3/11 is > 3/12. The question is is a combined guess of 7+ people more than 3/132 better than one? Of course the 7+ could be scum influenced which would skew the answer in favour of leaving it to the judge. So I dunno, I don't think it's definitive one way or the other.

[worcej]

Devil's advocate here but Damo is always sporadically all over the place. I honestly feel that he would be less sporadic in this game because the witch QT is open during the day and he can get coaching there...

Jamie's lurking has me more concerned than damp. Anyone else think this? It seems to be similar moves as to the last 'attempted' game.

Also, not visited or targeted btw.

[damo666]

Aha Y2K cross post.

Yes I changed my thinking and as per my last post, neither one way of thinking is clearly superior to the other.

[damo666]

I'm 'damp' am I lol?

The NK survivor should claim. I was not the target neither was I visited.

[worcej]

I'm 'damp' am I lol?

The NK survivor should claim. I was not the target neither was I visited.

You are when my Samsung tablet decides to auto correct your lowercase name... on vacation on the Oregon coast so I have no actual PC access atm

[worcej]

I am torn with the Judge atm...

I am definitely an odds person and letting them have the choice to lynch is statistically better than the group doing it, but at the same time we relinquish choice... I look at the role to be a light vigilante though so the argument to have them make the choice isn't totally bad, but again do we give up our choice to do so?

[DoubtingThomas]

wow no night kill? that's not what i expected...

the only read I am comfortable saying with confidence is Bo. His counter case against my case against Ezio was pretty good. I don't think he was friending Ezio, and his post had a very townie tone. More looked like he genuinely read Ezio hard town and pointed out the discomfort in the formation of the Ezio wagon that followed after my vote.

I will say Bo is town. I just wish people like Bo and Ezio explain what's scummy/townie about the people they see. just saying i read them that is not a convincing case for me and makes me want to pressure them

[y2kjbk]

It's incredibly scummy to want to rely on the judge and consequently not have to explain who you want to lynch. If we're really in a bind for some reason later in the day, maybe it can be considered, but it's stupid and scummy to do it now.

damo, why am I your preference for the lynch? Explain your vibes.

[Ezio]

Hold up Damo. You can agree that I'm town because if I was scum I wouldn't have been so shit, but why does that mean you agree with my scumread of some random other guy? Was my case on that random other guy "I'm not as shit as scum"?

[Ezio]

##Vote Damo

K?!?!

[bozotheclown]

Here is Ezio's second post of the game, where he suggests the Oracle and the Clown visit the same player so the Clown gets NK immunity.

The Pie man and Oracle should visit players alphabetically to ensure the oracle gets a proper scan off each night and so the pie man gets NK immunity.

No claims ever as the Soup is too broken.

##Call GM Do the Guardian Angels know roles, or do they still have no new information? Do mafia become Guardian Angels too?

Here is Ezio's first post of D2, where he seems to be considering the mafia not using the NK as a possibility for no NK, but does not mention the Clown, or the Gambler, getting NK immunity as a possibility.

Soon ND was probably town and correctly read the mafia NK? Mafia held the NK?

This seems inconsistent to me.

##VOTE Ezio

[bozotheclown]

damo, what changed your opinion between these three posts, where you seem to go from pushing for letting the judge decide the lynch at the end of D1, to advocating for a majority lynch at the beginning of D2, to being neutral?

Sorry been missing and not caught up, just read end bits from which I gather ND is for the chop. I agree with Yav that letting Judge decide is 3/12 as oppo to 3/13.

Suggest therefore ND voters switch.

No Yav we want a majority such that if it's a mislynch Vig comes in to play

Ezio your case was basically if you were scum you wouldn't be so bad. I'm paraphrasing.

Y2K vibes are vibes. Also you can see from the timings of my post I wasn't around until very close to EOD.

Yav - yes 3/11 is > 3/12. The question is is a combined guess of 7+ people more than 3/132 better than one? Of course the 7+ could be scum influenced which would skew the answer in favour of leaving it to the judge. So I dunno, I don't think it's definitive one way or the other.

[bozotheclown]

wow no night kill? that's not what i expected...

the only read I am comfortable saying with confidence is Bo. His counter case against my case against Ezio was pretty good. I don't think he was friending Ezio, and his post had a very townie tone. More looked like he genuinely read Ezio hard town and pointed out the discomfort in the formation of the Ezio wagon that followed after my vote.

I will say Bo is town. I just wish people like Bo and Ezio explain what's scummy/townie about the people they see. just saying i read them that is not a convincing case for me and makes me want to pressure them

Did bo_sox change your opinion of Ezio?

[worcej]

It's incredibly scummy to want to rely on the judge and consequently not have to explain who you want to lynch. If we're really in a bind for some reason later in the day, maybe it can be considered, but it's stupid and scummy to do it now.

damo, why am I your preference for the lynch? Explain your vibes.

How is it scummy to consider it? I would argue that saying it is bad is even MORE scummy because it takes away any influence the scum could have on the lynch and puts it into town hands. Isn’t that actually more desired because we know the kill is a townie pulling it off?