M1021 - Blessings of Lilia - GAME THREAD [hidden]

[DeathLlama8]

*macca

[DeathLlama8]

there's also just a weird certainty/unwillingness to give people the benefit of the doubt in the way kak responds to people suspecting him. like "oh a bunch of people aren't understanding my playstyle this game, they must all be scum"

[Kakarroto]

alright, time to activate my superpower: revive the read of dead townies thunder in the distance

rd has questioned and sussed DL's behaviour, at a time where mafia still could've changed the target N1 ... coincidence?

snowy also has expressed his feelings that tfb isn't mafia, also posted this:

Could you guys do me a solid

Read this post again and tell me what you see

viewtopic.php?p=298064#p298064

which was 'defused' by DL not shortly after on the next page.

snowy's last post again

Maybe DL, damo, bona?

Idk I haven't reread yet so

and he hasn't retrieved boats townread

maybe it's because DL wanted to get points for helping out sabi, maybe it was helping a maf-mate, but I think I'm voting the wrong person now

suspicion of boat has ended
##vote DL is now best sus

[Kakarroto]

also this here, you had been told that, you had read it both times and you didn't weight that in at all? This is why I think you are doing this deliberate, since before the damo vote, as a grand masterplan to get rid of damo and then me as last easy miskill

and this is different from town!kak because...?

I actually don’t think I’ve played with town kak but it’s objectively bad

ok, but this is similar to town!kak

[DeathLlama8]

when bona said that I went back and read your m73 because I'm actually trying to see if you're scum or not. My case isn't purely behavioral, but even then I came away concluding that I was adjusting for your town play properly

also @bona I reread town!kak's d1 last game and he even seems more commital then so I don't think the signals I'm getting are just kak being kak

[pyxxy]

@sabi, you doing alright? Hoping that you will catch up before EOD -1 hour, so that you're not rushed.

[pyxxy]

No, but why make this gun claim at all if he was scum and had no gun?

You're only answering why he'd claim to aim at Damo.

What is the scum motivation for the claim in the first place?

....I don't know. Because it looks towny?

##UNVOTE

Can't in good faith keep my vote up if I can't answer this question satisfactorily.

I have my answer to this, but Jamie, I'm borrowing from your answer. It's because he wants to bait Damo into more engagement. Keeping the name in the public mind increases the likelihood of the miskill (imo).

[pyxxy]

Maniac I'll explain tomorrow as it is 1am

Waiting on this (not urgently, just a reminder).

[TheMadMonarch]

I am understanding the case on Kak, even though I think Maniac is the better shot. Consolidation is important today. ##VOTE kak .

I'm going to Uni now. God, I hope it's kak.

[pyxxy]

I am understanding the case on Kak, even though I think Maniac is the better shot. Consolidation is important today. ##VOTE kak .

I'm going to Uni now. God, I hope it's kak.

That's four. Could include 2 scum at most, right? No chance that all 3 scum have voted onto Kak.

[pyxxy]

@Kak did you realize that your boat vote didn't get picked up by the bot?

[Kakarroto]

I'm not using the bot for at least the last 3 games now

also, for every town voting for me, do you really think all four on me are town?

[pyxxy]

I'm not using the bot for at least the last 3 games now

also, for every town voting for me, do you really think all four on me are town?

No, of course not. Any good scum team is coordinating in daychat for when to bus their teammate for a better winning chance. I suspect we've crossed that deadline already.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Maniac I'll explain tomorrow as it is 1am

Waiting on this (not urgently, just a reminder).

I think this flows heavily from the fact I scum read Sabi. Maniac has seemed really careful to avoid actively engaging with Sabi while still mentioning them somewhat frequently relative to his posting frequency.

I suspect Sabi is keeping some sort of spreadsheet like they had last game but this time it is kept private for the use of the scum team and they use it to make sure a cursory ctrl-f based search makes things look hunky dory in terms of relative intra-team engagement, but in this case laziness on the part of maniac gives away there is something else there.

Then there is my general feeling I cut him too much slack at the beginning insofar as I'd probably have scum read him earlier if he had a different username as others pointed out and that's probably correct to some degree. I don't think he's been particularly invested in solving or processing new information, which is not great.

[pyxxy]

Maniac I'll explain tomorrow as it is 1am

Waiting on this (not urgently, just a reminder).

I think this flows heavily from the fact I scum read Sabi. Maniac has seemed really careful to avoid actively engaging with Sabi while still mentioning them somewhat frequently relative to his posting frequency.

I suspect Sabi is keeping some sort of spreadsheet like they had last game but this time it is kept private for the use of the scum team and they use it to make sure a cursory ctrl-f based search makes things look hunky dory in terms of relative intra-team engagement, but in this case laziness on the part of maniac gives away there is something else there.

Then there is my general feeling I cut him too much slack at the beginning insofar as I'd probably have scum read him earlier if he had a different username as others pointed out and that's probably correct to some degree. I don't think he's been particularly invested in solving or processing new information, which is not great.

Thank you for the quick response.

While I have you, so you're sus on Sabi...would you be open to flash wagoning Sabi if they don't show up by ~1 hour from EOD?

[Kakarroto]

given that at most one of them is scum, why do you think bona is more likely than kak?

also i think this got buried @celaph

Given the 1 way nature of the connection, I see scum Bona trying to pocket Kak more likely than town Bona being wrong on scum Kak here.

is this why you smothered him with a pillow at night?

[TheFlyingBoat]

I'm not using the bot for at least the last 3 games now

also, for every town voting for me, do you really think all four on me are town?

I do. I posted my scum and town reads before the day began and my entire town reads list is on you. I am feeling increasingly confident in this list.

[Kakarroto]

well you're wrong.

so then, the town(s?) not on me, what do you think about the situation?

[TheFlyingBoat]

Waiting on this (not urgently, just a reminder).

I think this flows heavily from the fact I scum read Sabi. Maniac has seemed really careful to avoid actively engaging with Sabi while still mentioning them somewhat frequently relative to his posting frequency.

I suspect Sabi is keeping some sort of spreadsheet like they had last game but this time it is kept private for the use of the scum team and they use it to make sure a cursory ctrl-f based search makes things look hunky dory in terms of relative intra-team engagement, but in this case laziness on the part of maniac gives away there is something else there.

Then there is my general feeling I cut him too much slack at the beginning insofar as I'd probably have scum read him earlier if he had a different username as others pointed out and that's probably correct to some degree. I don't think he's been particularly invested in solving or processing new information, which is not great.

Thank you for the quick response.

While I have you, so you're sus on Sabi...would you be open to flash wagoning Sabi if they don't show up by ~1 hour from EOD?

Not really. Kak is my #1 scum read and I have zero desires to play games at EOD at KILO if I can avoid it. Assuming we're right about Kak, I'd be very happy to vote Sabi tomorrow the moment the day begins.

[Kakarroto]

wait, there is even the slim chance that all three other towns are on me and the rest is mafia ...

welp, this game seems over