M1021 - Blessings of Lilia - GAME THREAD [hidden]

[Bonatogether]

not a fan of a kak speedwagon

[aarodactyl]

aaro, did you ever explain how you came to the conclusion that yesterday was probably TvTvT? You don't townread damo independently of that idea and you were also having doubts about it earlier in the day so I'm curious where that came out of

It seems like the smart thing to do as scum. Maybe I’m giving a scum day chat too much credit but if I were scum, that’s what I would try to do.

I mean obviously scum would try to avoid having themselves be the target of wagons and such but that doesn't mean they would necessarily be successful either. With only three scum, even with a day chat, a TvTvT seems really hard to achieve. Certainly not impossible by any means, but not exactly likely to me either.

What confuses is me you expressed that damo was your strongest scum candidate D1 and said you still thought he was a likely scum candidate D2. You explain later in D2 that late in D1 you started to view him as more townie but that doesn't seem to match the timeline of what you stated publicly.

If you started to believe that Damo was townie because of his late D1 posts (as you said in response to me saying I viewed it as likely that one of you or Damo were scum) why did you say at the start of D2 that Damo was scum?

I'll be honest. I don't keep track of my reads over time, and I don't know off the top of my head. I'd probably have to reread D1 and N1 to answer that for you, and I'm not going to do that right now.

[Maniac]

Jamie is scum.

It’s always pretty easy for scum to daykill me. They can go for the ‘daykill all lurkers’ line or say they can’t read me, or just pile on when some townies start scum reading me, which inevitably happens. Maybe Jamie was looking for a miskill earlier. But when I was ahead. He moved off me and has stayed off me. Two reasons for scum!Jamie to do this, firstly if I’m miskilled he doesn’t have blood on his hands and more importantly, he scum!Jamie would actually think I’m so bad at mafia that he’d sooner me stay alive providing scum have another townie in their miskill sights. So I’m thinking aarodactyl is town too and from Scum POV a better miskill than I am.

I think everyone on me are solid town.

I think perhaps scum Jamie hides on another scumbo who is unlikely to be a string wagon today, so Bonatogether could be his scum buddy,

So I’m going to ##vote Jamie, but will shift to Bonatogether if Jamie wagon doesn’t build.

[Bonatogether]

on quick iso skim he seemed really hesitant to offer his own opinions versus just floating questions, reads were super hedgy, and he’s also just disappeared for the second half of the day

and this is different from town!kak because...?

[damo666]

meh

C'mon

[DeathLlama8]

will switch to aaro if this doesn’t take off though

[DeathLlama8]

on quick iso skim he seemed really hesitant to offer his own opinions versus just floating questions, reads were super hedgy, and he’s also just disappeared for the second half of the day

and this is different from town!kak because...?

I actually don’t think I’ve played with town kak but it’s objectively bad

[snowy801]

I'd like opinions on what Maniac just said

[Bonatogether]

on quick iso skim he seemed really hesitant to offer his own opinions versus just floating questions, reads were super hedgy, and he’s also just disappeared for the second half of the day

and this is different from town!kak because...?

I actually don’t think I’ve played with town kak but it’s objectively bad

ok, but this is similar to town!kak

[President Eden]

DAY 2 VOTE COUNT 2
(live updates found here!)

Maniac (3): pyxxy, aarodactyl, BesharamSabi
aarodactyl (3): snowy801, Bonatogether, celaph
damo666 (2): Kakarroto, TheFlyingBoat
Kakarroto (2): damo666, DeathLlama8
Bonatogether (1): Jamiet99uk

Unvote/No Kill (1): Maniac

Currently no one is set to be killed at the end of Day 2 in approximately 00h25m.

All players have met minimum participation requirements.

[Bonatogether]

I'd like opinions on what Maniac just said

i think he underrates the potential that I could have been wagoned.

[DeathLlama8]

I'd like opinions on what Maniac just said

I don’t think scums natural instinct to being one of like four wagons close to eod is to start another wagon. Need to think through the actual argument though

[President Eden]

Maniac is actually voting Jamie and not unvoted, my b

[snowy801]

Speaking of which, where is Jamiet?
He asked what's up then dipped again

[damo666]

I'd like opinions on what Maniac just said

I'd rather vote Bona than Jamie but what Maniac said is plausible.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Jamie is scum.

It’s always pretty easy for scum to daykill me. They can go for the ‘daykill all lurkers’ line or say they can’t read me, or just pile on when some townies start scum reading me, which inevitably happens. Maybe Jamie was looking for a miskill earlier. But when I was ahead. He moved off me and has stayed off me. Two reasons for scum!Jamie to do this, firstly if I’m miskilled he doesn’t have blood on his hands and more importantly, he scum!Jamie would actually think I’m so bad at mafia that he’d sooner me stay alive providing scum have another townie in their miskill sights. So I’m thinking aarodactyl is town too and from Scum POV a better miskill than I am.

I think everyone on me are solid town.

I think perhaps scum Jamie hides on another scumbo who is unlikely to be a string wagon today, so Bonatogether could be his scum buddy,

So I’m going to ##vote Jamie, but will shift to Bonatogether if Jamie wagon doesn’t build.

Jamie provided his own explanation that involved your votes on damo being alignment indicative in your favor. He had you as the leading wagon earlier so my question is, if you believe the two reasons for him wanting you alive, why weren't those reasons true when he made you the leading wagon?

[aarodactyl]

I'd like opinions on what Maniac just said

I'm giving him massive town points for saying his cw is town. I'm trying to weigh if that's legitimate or not. I'm thinking of switching though because it's not that hard for him to just vote him (especially considering all the other people voting for or that have expressed they will).

[damo666]

@Maniac

kak?

[BesharamSabi]

I don't like this Jamiet flash wagon.

[Bonatogether]

I don't like this Jamiet flash wagon.

what jamie flashwagon lol

no one has said they're especially sold by it