M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

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rdrivera2005
worcej
Jamiet99uk
DemonRHK
pyxxy

let's play: can we pick 1 person out of 5, with 3 tries and weeks of interactions?

town has this if we just do the rereads and keep in the POE

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starting the ghuginator reread now

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Shit, I believe the train to be flying the coop without me.

##VOTE Jamie

Chaqa tomorrow though.

does goog vote his teammate SoD1? maybe

i can't read ghug very well but i'm leaning yes. however, this is jamie and goog dislikes jamie

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Hi ghug!

How are you doing?

What do you think the scariest role is in this game?

I'm pretty good. How are you?

Scariest role is all of them cause I'm a fucking chicken.

does this interaction suggest that maccej is flipper?

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hmm maybe so. ok, uno reverse card, what do YOU think is the scariest role Macca?

also I have it on like… decent enough authority… ok FINE it was Sabi like 2 months ago. anyway, decent enough authority that brainbomb is your fave mafia player (good taste). given this I am a bit surprised you have no comment on the pressure he’s been put under and his responses therein. and if my info is mistaken then my bad but mostly Sabi’s bad

Probably Godfather? Making the scans unsure.

ooga booga

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ok that's a sick reread guys

kill maccej tomorrow

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I demand my subjects follow me in my ##VOTE DemonRHK

Any questions may be directed at Secretary Eden. Any complaints may be directed at BesharamSabi. Then you.

idt he mentions the RHK before this.

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What is everyone’s thoughts on celaph?

spreadsheet notes dump when

Are y'all ready for Sabi to reveal their notes on day three for cred regardless of their alignment?

based

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Ok, where I'm at is that I have concerns about Eden, snowy, and celaph, but I'm willing to give them a day.

Of the relevant people, I don't feel like killing lamp or Sabi. I'd be OK with RHK, boat, Kak.

Sadly, I think Maniac is probably right about Maccej, and he's pretty easy to read regardless. I'd be fine getting like Jamie or ##VOTE bozo too.

probing for interest on a maccej wagon - consistent with flipper!maccej

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Ok, where I'm at is that I have concerns about Eden, snowy, and celaph, but I'm willing to give them a day.

Of the relevant people, I don't feel like killing lamp or Sabi. I'd be OK with RHK, boat, Kak.

Sadly, I think Maniac is probably right about Maccej, and he's pretty easy to read regardless. I'd be fine getting like Jamie or ##VOTE bozo too.

What are your concerns about eden, snowy, and celaph

I've talked about Eden. Celaph feels lukewarm and has a high ratio of empty questions to concrete analysis. Snowy's opinions are meh.

bussing celaph. celaph had considerable thread momentum at this point iirc

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THE PHONE STORY IS OFF. HIS DEFENSE OF IT SEEMS WEIRDLY EXCESSIVE.

Sabi tunneling away on this one thing as some kind of evidence of Lamp being scum is ridiculous.

It makes Sabi look very towny though.

scum trying to get sabi to the endgame again, like boat man.

killing sabi was a good move

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That was... surprisingly less content for such a massive vote swing. Strange, and worth pondering

I will concede that wagonomics do not favor celaph based upon read, but neither does that mean TFB is not scum

In fact pretty sure TFB went out of his way to save celaph and never voted him despite being a viable counterwagon, if that sways any of ye "celaph is scum" bandwagoners

Celaph looked like town at EoD to my eyes. My gut is saying the Kak wagon arose to save boat, who's done nothing to seem town, but I'll have to look closer.

trying to pull celaph back around while pushing boat off? at least that second sentence is basically correct under my understanding

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ghug is scum
so rework your scumteam to have ghug on it

Yes, Ghug is scum.

At least two of these are wrong.

disturbingly based brain and jamie

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I don't have as many townreads as I'd like at this point. Sabi seems like town. I'm inclined to townread Eden, which is making me scumread him. I wanted to townread Chaqa for the "because" thing, but if Eden told him to do that before the game, maybe he felt like he had to. He sits in a pool with brain, RHK, Jamie, celaph, snowy of people who seem like their town selves but haven't done anything that's impossible to fake.

Below them are the true nulls: rd, pyxxy, worcej, Bona damo, Maniac. Boat could maybe be in this box too but I'm more inclined to kill him because his wagon's death is sketch. Bozo and lamp also seem like decent killing options. I think that's everyone?

taking sabi to the endgame
shading eden
shading chaka
no group he makes has more than 1 scum. scum!maccej works with this. Quirky!

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The number of times I've said this about scum Chaqa PR hunting is at least like 3.

I would say “I don’t think I’ve ever openly PR hunted as scum” but you would probably remember better than me.

I think I should be clear off snowy dying. I would feel too bad about his constant N1 deaths to do that, and that’s facts.

As the only person here who's left snowy alive recently, I take issue with that.

ghug killed snowy, notably

rip

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Celaph looked like town at EoD to my eyes. My gut is saying the Kak wagon arose to save boat, who's done nothing to seem town, but I'll have to look closer.

Ghug did you ever have a closer look at boatman yet?

No, and I don't intend to. I intend to look at the wagons around EoD, and I suspect they implicate boatman.

scum wanted boat man dead
understandable, interesting. someone can reread D2 with this knowledge and probably dig something up

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## vote celaph

The page of posts leading up to this pushed you *towards* scumreading him?

ghug failing to cope with the fact that the town train makes no stops

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Yes, that is all reasonable. Or, you could be bussing celaph, which I would expect 1 or 2 mafia to be doing if he is scum.

Why would scum!me bother "saving him" or avoid voting him as you have been arguing if my plan was to shade and bus him this entire time? Like it seems like it doesn't matter to you what my position was on Celaph or what Celaph's alignment is when it comes to your scum read on me and instead you'll ad hoc your way to maintain the scum read no matter the facts. Care to explain why?

Save yesterday, decide to bus overnight.

the continued scum push on the boat man continued in late in the second day

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who do you even think is mafia and why did EOD1 happen the way it did in light of that

Man it's day two, I'm not supposed to know that yet.

I've realized having missed EoD that it's harder to get a feel for the rhythm of it from the outside. My gut reading it said that celaph was town, and what was left was boat being saved. Boat hasn't been that scummy on his own, but I think celaph has been good, so I'm much more interested in boat if we're killing someone for scumread+info. If boat is scum, I think Chaqa and bozo look like savers. Sabi looks not great, but I'm discounting that because I think they're likely town. Maybe Lamp, maybe Brain, but the votes don't look as bad and the other play looks better.

Outside of that (i.e. if I'm wrong on celaph and/or boat or I'm looking for scum who didn't vote to save him), the people I find iffy are damo, Maniac, and Chaqa again. You were there but I've liked your day 2 more (in terms of towniness; I agreed with you more yesterday).

I don't feel particularly strongly about any one person, which is probably for the best as I'm liable to fall into bad patterns. The people I don't want to kill today are Sabi, bona, brain, lamp, celaph, RHK (though where the fuck is he?), you, maybe pyxxy though I don't totally buy the logic townclearing him.

basically the summary of goog's d2.

scum wanted sabi alive
bussing boat man
carrying celaph to safety - epic failure! typical west coaster.
damo, maniac, chaka listed as scum - all town
sabi/bona/brain/blamp/celly/RHK all listed as town - trying to sneak blamp and celly into townreads. makes the RHK look better.

woohoo for confirmation bias! woohoo for future dubs!

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the celaph wagon feels loaded with scum.
and yet I think that makes celaph more likely to be scum also

DemonRHK Bonatogether pyxxy worcej brainbomb

The only one on that wagon remotely likely to be scum is pyxxy

What have worcej or Bona done to warrant this?

trying to get the maccej into the POE. imagine getting your flipper into the towncore lmfao