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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6721 Post by BusinessLamp » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:15 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:12 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:08 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:02 pm

ok but they're the same slot though. worcej and macca definitionally have the same role pm. any reads of macca translate to a baseline for the cej
i'm of the opinion that nothing macca did was alignment indicative, and would be hard for others to feel strongly enough about it to put them in any sort of pool. so to me there's close to nothing all around.
POE is 'not clearly town'. That's how people have been constructing their POEs this entire game, and they're been relatively open and clear with their reasoning. This post is perhaps the most clear recent example.
i think the context of day 1 makes it different. if what you're saying is true of TFB's post, why isn't rdr in the list? rdr isn't clearly town?

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#6722 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:16 pm

I dont care about a longer night
a long lonely last meal for a dead lone wolf is a fitting end to this game

If blamp isnt happening I wanna see flum flip today as in now instead

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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6723 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:16 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:11 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:08 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:04 pm


what the hell am i supposed to do? i'm AT SCHOOL from 7:30 to 4:20. I can only post from my phone (when it's not out over power) when I even have time - it's junior year and my schedule is stacked. I don't have time to make a fucking wallpost during french class ffs
Yes my point is that Chaqa thinks you're town and doesn't give you a hard time for not being super active all the time, yet he was giving Worcej a hard time for exactly that.

I'm not saying this proves you're scum, I'm saying that Chaqa is applying double standards.
I've highlighted the important part here.

I think Bona is town, so his participation doesn't matter.

I think worcej is scum, so his participation does.
So in other words you decide what you think people's alignment is first, and then after that you look for reasons to support your confirmation bias?
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#6724 Post by BusinessLamp » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:17 pm

im not gonna vote flum

chaqa would murder us all if we introduce anyone else

so vote worcej partyyyyyy

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#6725 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:18 pm

To be entirely clear, I don't scumread Chaqa, I'm just helping him to become a better person.
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#6726 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:22 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:16 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:11 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:08 pm


Yes my point is that Chaqa thinks you're town and doesn't give you a hard time for not being super active all the time, yet he was giving Worcej a hard time for exactly that.

I'm not saying this proves you're scum, I'm saying that Chaqa is applying double standards.
I've highlighted the important part here.

I think Bona is town, so his participation doesn't matter.

I think worcej is scum, so his participation does.
So in other words you decide what you think people's alignment is first, and then after that you look for reasons to support your confirmation bias?
Welcome to mafia.

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#6727 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:22 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:17 pm
im not gonna vote flum

chaqa would murder us all if we introduce anyone else

so vote worcej partyyyyyy

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#6728 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:27 pm

That would be wild.

**A SHOT RINGS OUT**

CHAQA has died. He was the VIGILANTE.
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#6729 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:32 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:13 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:10 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:05 pm


my guess is that people aren't thinking on that level, that scum's primary concern is just getting through the day without being linked together as having an objective. then at night one they can more actively plan this.

but i agree with you, my intentions for my scum game are not to do this, and to try and do what you said. but i don't think that's the natural inclination. (bozo is going to scumread me for this sentence)
scum win and lose as a team. having one bite the dust is not an issue if they gain more from it (townreads, passes, etc) than they lose from the vote and the person - therefore getting their teammates farther along, and thereby their team.

i have no idea what this second paragraph is trying to say.
i'm saying that your argument is right. that is the optimal strategy. that's what i would try and do. i don't think everyone realizes/enacts this, though. that's my theory.

also, I did initially pull celaph's day 1 interactions from last game to compare the two, and it held up well enough
townleans me
shades donny (maf partner)
questions bob about views on teammate
highlights good post from rdr (about scummate)
highlights good post from jamie (about scummate)
questions teammate
highlights post from maniac (about townie)
questions rdr about teammate
announces townlean on jamie
questions ghug (about townie)
questions demon (about teammate)
Light susses Durga, along with RHK (town) and Donny
questions TFB about teammate
votes teammate
Questions Jamie about teammate
Questions me about bob
votes townie (no justification)
Townreads flum
seemed like he has a tendency to point out good logic from town as a way to bond with town and try and blend in
Everyone else here except pyxxy has been scum at least once. People have had varying degrees of success but I don't believe anyone here would use a pattern like that on their first day. It's simply dumb for scum because it's completely obvious upon reread, like so.

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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6730 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:34 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:15 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:12 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:08 pm


i'm of the opinion that nothing macca did was alignment indicative, and would be hard for others to feel strongly enough about it to put them in any sort of pool. so to me there's close to nothing all around.
POE is 'not clearly town'. That's how people have been constructing their POEs this entire game, and they're been relatively open and clear with their reasoning. This post is perhaps the most clear recent example.
i think the context of day 1 makes it different. if what you're saying is true of TFB's post, why isn't rdr in the list? rdr isn't clearly town?
TFB was scum. His primary objective in that post is to cause confusion, incidentally by raising rdr out of the scumpool. This works if rdr is town (like you said, he's not clearly town, so people will get paranoid about the POE) and if he's scum (because rdr can put in some effort and then just win)

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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6731 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:43 pm

when did town become so deeply entrenched against working together?
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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6732 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:44 pm

if we wanna kill flum
lets kill flum and get on with it.

its weird how 7 people are acting like scum
and refusing to even budge on anything
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#6733 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:45 pm

Jamie has probably the strangest POE ever and I cant even begin to fathom
how he is townreading blamp so heavily without even agreeing with or liking a single post from blamp lol
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#6734 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:47 pm

##Vote businesslamp

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this has to die today.
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#6735 Post by brainbomb » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:48 pm

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGG
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#6736 Post by pyxxy » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:50 pm

I wonder if Demon will show up soon.

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#6737 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:51 pm

Macca’s few posts simultaneously claim to not know much about the roles but also mentions the flipper and godfather

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#6738 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:53 pm

worcej’s early game iso isn’t too bad though.

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#6739 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:58 pm

Maybe I’m overthinking this and Blamp and Flum are just playing excellent deflection games. Maybe there are 1-2 deep scum.

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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6740 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:02 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:58 pm
Maybe I’m overthinking this and Blamp and Flum are just playing excellent deflection games. Maybe there are 1-2 deep scum.
just clear the poe and be calm

the poe is there for a reason and it's to be cleared. we have time to think about this. implosion now is the worst case scenario

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