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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6621 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:56 pm

Yeah Chaqa, not helpy
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#6622 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:01 pm

Keeping this game moving will be a huge factor in keeping town motivated.

If we had hammered Blamp at the 24h mark, Sabi wouldn't have gotten miskilled.

What new information is going to come to light with 24 more hours?

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#6623 Post by worcej » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:03 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:01 pm
Keeping this game moving will be a huge factor in keeping town motivated.

If we had hammered Blamp at the 24h mark, Sabi wouldn't have gotten miskilled.

What new information is going to come to light with 24 more hours?
If all you care about is scratching names off a list of POE you made, then nothing.

I haven’t seen you put together a real great reason why I am scummy other than your participation metric I haven’t met yet, which ignores my posts about reasons for votes and reads since I have subbed in

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#6624 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:09 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:01 pm
Keeping this game moving will be a huge factor in keeping town motivated.

If we had hammered Blamp at the 24h mark, Sabi wouldn't have gotten miskilled.

What new information is going to come to light with 24 more hours?
But now you are opposed to flipping Blamp. So in your current worldview, surely if we'd hammered Blamp it would have been a miskill as well. Why are you basically arguing that rushing to miskill one person would have been better than miskilling a different person a little more slowly?
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#6625 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:10 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:03 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:01 pm
Keeping this game moving will be a huge factor in keeping town motivated.

If we had hammered Blamp at the 24h mark, Sabi wouldn't have gotten miskilled.

What new information is going to come to light with 24 more hours?
If all you care about is scratching names off a list of POE you made, then nothing.

I haven’t seen you put together a real great reason why I am scummy other than your participation metric I haven’t met yet, which ignores my posts about reasons for votes and reads since I have subbed in
I don't have any particular reason to find you scummy more than any other person. Macca's posts were a little weird, and your voting record would fit a bussing scum for day 2, but otherwise you're in the same vaguely null category as rivera, Blamp, and Flum.

For some more perspective on where I'm at, We have the remaining players:

Bonatogether
bozotheclown
brainbomb
BusinessLamp
Chaqa
DemonRHK
Fluminator
Jamiet99uk
worcej
pyxxy
rdrivera2005

Take away the town clears:

Bonatogether
brainbomb
BusinessLamp
DemonRHK
Fluminator
worcej
pyxxy
rdrivera2005

Take away those who I (and Eden as well) believe(d) to be mostly-unimpeachable town:

BusinessLamp
DemonRHK
Fluminator
worcej
rdrivera2005

That leaves five.

I personally believe Demon is town. I also have very slight town lean on Rivera, though neither of these is strong enough to exclude them from the PoE of the game, they are enough for me to prefer to not kill them today.

That leaves you, Flum, and Blamp.

As far as I'm concerned, you three are all equally likely to be scum, perhaps you're third by the slightest margin, but hammering any of you today is in my opinion good for the progression of the game.

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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6626 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:13 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:09 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:01 pm
Keeping this game moving will be a huge factor in keeping town motivated.

If we had hammered Blamp at the 24h mark, Sabi wouldn't have gotten miskilled.

What new information is going to come to light with 24 more hours?
But now you are opposed to flipping Blamp. So in your current worldview, surely if we'd hammered Blamp it would have been a miskill as well. Why are you basically arguing that rushing to miskill one person would have been better than miskilling a different person a little more slowly?
My stance isn't that I'm opposed to flipping Blamp completely. My stance is that today is my last day in the game, and assuming once I'm gone, Blamp will be a common push by the remaining players, so I might as well not worry about getting him out today, because I can trust you guys to do so.

Likewise, I personally townread RHK. This seems to be contrary to the larger game's views - therefore, the best I can do is keep him off the block today, in hopes better minds prevail or we catch a scum today that helps clear him.

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#6627 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:38 pm

Can we please not vote for someone that BusinessLamp and Fluminator want to DK and hammer BusinessLamp or Fluminator today?

Isn't it obvious why BusinessLamp and Fluminator were the last 2 to vote?

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#6628 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:41 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:10 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:03 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:01 pm
Keeping this game moving will be a huge factor in keeping town motivated.

If we had hammered Blamp at the 24h mark, Sabi wouldn't have gotten miskilled.

What new information is going to come to light with 24 more hours?
If all you care about is scratching names off a list of POE you made, then nothing.

I haven’t seen you put together a real great reason why I am scummy other than your participation metric I haven’t met yet, which ignores my posts about reasons for votes and reads since I have subbed in
I don't have any particular reason to find you scummy more than any other person. Macca's posts were a little weird, and your voting record would fit a bussing scum for day 2, but otherwise you're in the same vaguely null category as rivera, Blamp, and Flum.

For some more perspective on where I'm at, We have the remaining players:

Bonatogether
bozotheclown
brainbomb
BusinessLamp
Chaqa
DemonRHK
Fluminator
Jamiet99uk
worcej
pyxxy
rdrivera2005

Take away the town clears:

Bonatogether
brainbomb
BusinessLamp
DemonRHK
Fluminator
worcej
pyxxy
rdrivera2005

Take away those who I (and Eden as well) believe(d) to be mostly-unimpeachable town:

BusinessLamp
DemonRHK
Fluminator
worcej
rdrivera2005

That leaves five.

I personally believe Demon is town. I also have very slight town lean on Rivera, though neither of these is strong enough to exclude them from the PoE of the game, they are enough for me to prefer to not kill them today.

That leaves you, Flum, and Blamp.

As far as I'm concerned, you three are all equally likely to be scum, perhaps you're third by the slightest margin, but hammering any of you today is in my opinion good for the progression of the game.
If the mafia are in those 5, we will get the chance to DK all 5, but I do not want to DK worcej today.

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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6629 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:41 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:38 pm
Can we please not vote for someone that BusinessLamp and Fluminator want to DK and hammer BusinessLamp or Fluminator today?

Isn't it obvious why BusinessLamp and Fluminator were the last 2 to vote?
I was thinking about this, but I'm not convinced there isn't a solution to this game where they're both town.

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#6630 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:41 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:01 pm
Keeping this game moving will be a huge factor in keeping town motivated.

If we had hammered Blamp at the 24h mark, Sabi wouldn't have gotten miskilled.

What new information is going to come to light with 24 more hours?
Let's do that today then.

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#6631 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:42 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:41 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:10 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:03 pm
If all you care about is scratching names off a list of POE you made, then nothing.

I haven’t seen you put together a real great reason why I am scummy other than your participation metric I haven’t met yet, which ignores my posts about reasons for votes and reads since I have subbed in
I don't have any particular reason to find you scummy more than any other person. Macca's posts were a little weird, and your voting record would fit a bussing scum for day 2, but otherwise you're in the same vaguely null category as rivera, Blamp, and Flum.

For some more perspective on where I'm at, We have the remaining players:

Bonatogether
bozotheclown
brainbomb
BusinessLamp
Chaqa
DemonRHK
Fluminator
Jamiet99uk
worcej
pyxxy
rdrivera2005

Take away the town clears:

Bonatogether
brainbomb
BusinessLamp
DemonRHK
Fluminator
worcej
pyxxy
rdrivera2005

Take away those who I (and Eden as well) believe(d) to be mostly-unimpeachable town:

BusinessLamp
DemonRHK
Fluminator
worcej
rdrivera2005

That leaves five.

I personally believe Demon is town. I also have very slight town lean on Rivera, though neither of these is strong enough to exclude them from the PoE of the game, they are enough for me to prefer to not kill them today.

That leaves you, Flum, and Blamp.

As far as I'm concerned, you three are all equally likely to be scum, perhaps you're third by the slightest margin, but hammering any of you today is in my opinion good for the progression of the game.
If the mafia are in those 5, we will get the chance to DK all 5, but I do not want to DK worcej today.
This is reasonable. Would you go for Flum today, then?

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#6632 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:43 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:41 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:38 pm
Can we please not vote for someone that BusinessLamp and Fluminator want to DK and hammer BusinessLamp or Fluminator today?

Isn't it obvious why BusinessLamp and Fluminator were the last 2 to vote?
I was thinking about this, but I'm not convinced there isn't a solution to this game where they're both town.
I don't think so, but if so we should still be OK if the mafia are in your remaining suspects.

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#6633 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:45 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:42 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:41 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:10 pm


I don't have any particular reason to find you scummy more than any other person. Macca's posts were a little weird, and your voting record would fit a bussing scum for day 2, but otherwise you're in the same vaguely null category as rivera, Blamp, and Flum.

For some more perspective on where I'm at, We have the remaining players:

Bonatogether
bozotheclown
brainbomb
BusinessLamp
Chaqa
DemonRHK
Fluminator
Jamiet99uk
worcej
pyxxy
rdrivera2005

Take away the town clears:

Bonatogether
brainbomb
BusinessLamp
DemonRHK
Fluminator
worcej
pyxxy
rdrivera2005

Take away those who I (and Eden as well) believe(d) to be mostly-unimpeachable town:

BusinessLamp
DemonRHK
Fluminator
worcej
rdrivera2005

That leaves five.

I personally believe Demon is town. I also have very slight town lean on Rivera, though neither of these is strong enough to exclude them from the PoE of the game, they are enough for me to prefer to not kill them today.

That leaves you, Flum, and Blamp.

As far as I'm concerned, you three are all equally likely to be scum, perhaps you're third by the slightest margin, but hammering any of you today is in my opinion good for the progression of the game.
If the mafia are in those 5, we will get the chance to DK all 5, but I do not want to DK worcej today.
This is reasonable. Would you go for Flum today, then?
Yes, although I would prefer BusinessLamp first because I think Fluminator is more likely to be the flipper.

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#6634 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:45 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:38 pm
Can we please not vote for someone that BusinessLamp and Fluminator want to DK and hammer BusinessLamp or Fluminator today?

Isn't it obvious why BusinessLamp and Fluminator were the last 2 to vote?
Listen to the clown. He is wise.
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#6635 Post by pyxxy » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:47 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:45 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:42 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:41 pm


If the mafia are in those 5, we will get the chance to DK all 5, but I do not want to DK worcej today.
This is reasonable. Would you go for Flum today, then?
Yes, although I would prefer BusinessLamp first because I think Fluminator is more likely to be the flipper.
"More likely to be the flipper" in like, if the flipper is still around, Flum would be the mostly likely flipper candidate? Or do you strongly believe Flum is the Flipper?

I'm generally onboard with this bozo Chaqa coalition.

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#6636 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:50 pm

pyxxy wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:47 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:45 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:42 pm


This is reasonable. Would you go for Flum today, then?
Yes, although I would prefer BusinessLamp first because I think Fluminator is more likely to be the flipper.
"More likely to be the flipper" in like, if the flipper is still around, Flum would be the mostly likely flipper candidate? Or do you strongly believe Flum is the Flipper?

I'm generally onboard with this bozo Chaqa coalition.
Yes, I mean more likely than BusinessLamp if the flipper is still around.

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#6637 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:52 pm

I’m unsure about Flum.

I don’t think ghug would sub out as scum.

But I also don’t feel he ever adequately responded to PE’s case on him.

Flum has been back and forth in head.

I’m basically at a point where I can see any of the ones I listed as scum, but I don’t feel strongly enough bout it to have a strong preference. My townreads are mostly more certain

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#6638 Post by Chaqa » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:56 pm

##Vote BusinessLamp
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Let’s see what we can see.

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#6639 Post by bozotheclown » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:56 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:26 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:00 pm
bozo: BusinessLamp, RHK, Sabi, worcej
Jamie: BusinessLamp, Sabi, worcej, RHK
RHK: BusinessLamp, Fluminator, Sabi, rdrivera
Bonatogether: BusinessLamp, bozo, RHK, rdrivera
Sabi: BusinessLamp, rdrivera, RHK, worcej
Chaqa: BusinessLamp, Fluminator, rdrivera, worcej

Can those missing from this list please provide their top 4 scum candidates?
Chaqa, Sabi, …Flum, Bona

Chaqa/Sabi
Chaqa/Flum
Sabi/Flum
Bona/Flum

as the pairs in likeliness order?
worcej was not in BusinessLamp's top 4 suspects D4, while Fluminator was. Now it is apparent BusinessLamp will vote for anyone to save himself except Fluminator.

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#6640 Post by BusinessLamp » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:58 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:56 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:26 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:00 pm
bozo: BusinessLamp, RHK, Sabi, worcej
Jamie: BusinessLamp, Sabi, worcej, RHK
RHK: BusinessLamp, Fluminator, Sabi, rdrivera
Bonatogether: BusinessLamp, bozo, RHK, rdrivera
Sabi: BusinessLamp, rdrivera, RHK, worcej
Chaqa: BusinessLamp, Fluminator, rdrivera, worcej

Can those missing from this list please provide their top 4 scum candidates?
Chaqa, Sabi, …Flum, Bona

Chaqa/Sabi
Chaqa/Flum
Sabi/Flum
Bona/Flum

as the pairs in likeliness order?
worcej was not in BusinessLamp's top 4 suspects D4, while Fluminator was. Now it is apparent BusinessLamp will vote for anyone to save himself except Fluminator.
I have explained why this is the case. Why are you choosing to ignore this?

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