M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

So you have moved your vote from Business Lamp, to the person that Business Lamp is voting.

The way I see it

If worcej flips scum, Blamp looks much better.

If worcej flips town, we can always come back and get Blamp later.

Worcej is #3 in my PoE, with Blamp being either #1 or #2, so it's not much of a problem for me to hedge that I could be wrong about Blamp here.

are you like, actually uncc'd? can we have a final answer on this? is it bad for town?

this post scares me. it makes me think that you just want to take someone else out and keep me as a later target. i mean, you would probably out-survive worcej anyway, but still. ugh.

sorry i need to just swallow my fucking paranoia lol

You're exactly right about what I'm doing. I'm giving you some consideration because I'm not certain about this. If worcej is the wrong choice we can come back to you later.

[Chaqa]

I'd like to hear brain and Bozo's takes on worcej

[rdrivera2005]

I don't think Lamp is scum and Eden is probably shouting at us from God QT. The votes doesn't look great but there are other people with bad votes or no votes. And bussing Celaph is a no brainer for scum.

I won't vote out of Flum and Demon today.

Which do you prefer between Flum and Demon?

The one I am voting, Flum.

[brainbomb]

celaph enters the game pretty happy with his role pm
either hes lying or he likes his role and his squad

my thought is that if he likes his squad he has won as scum with macca before and knows macca enjoys being scum. hes probably never been scum with celaph before


bear in mind this implies that celaph is lying that hes happy with his pm and hes actually disappointed and overly weary of being mafia. sure thats a theory. and of course mafia lie and of course celaph has no reason to exclaim he is happy about his role and actually be sincere about it. but being mafia is not exclusively the art of lying. in fact as scum its very satisfying to actually tell the truth about how you feel and what you think.
so I think celaph is both happy hes godfather and happy about who his team is
sure

[brainbomb]

celaph enters the game pretty happy with his role pm
either hes lying or he likes his role and his squad

my thought is that if he likes his squad he has won as scum with macca before and knows macca enjoys being scum. hes probably never been scum with celaph before


bear in mind this implies that celaph is lying that hes happy with his pm and hes actually disappointed and overly weary of being mafia. sure thats a theory. and of course mafia lie and of course celaph has no reason to exclaim he is happy about his role and actually be sincere about it. but being mafia is not exclusively the art of lying. in fact as scum its very satisfying to actually tell the truth about how you feel and what you think.
so I think celaph is both happy hes godfather and happy about who his team is
sure

hes never been scum with TFB before
jesus
brainfart

[brainbomb]

I think worcej is not scum though and I just doubt mafia gets kak to flip day 1 without three scum on kak

[rdrivera2005]

I don't think Lamp is scum and Eden is probably shouting at us from God QT. The votes doesn't look great but there are other people with bad votes or no votes. And bussing Celaph is a no brainer for scum.

I won't vote out of Flum and Demon today.

Do you not think limiting to those two is restrictive and dangerous?

Wasn't you that want us to keep following a general plan to vote between our POE and was freaking out when people get Sabi killed?

I can understand the reason Worcej is in the pool, but I think he is town and don't think he will add much more info when he flips. Of courseif he flips scum it's great, but I don't feel it. Flum or Demon (or Blamp, I agree) will give more info even if they flip town, which I think is less likely.

[rdrivera2005]

Do you town read him?

No, but of the people in the pool, I'd rather flip Flum or, for that matter, DemonRHK.

I don't think RHK is scum. As long as I'm alive, I'm Veto'ing it

Why are you so sure about Demon?

[Chaqa]

I don't think Lamp is scum and Eden is probably shouting at us from God QT. The votes doesn't look great but there are other people with bad votes or no votes. And bussing Celaph is a no brainer for scum.

I won't vote out of Flum and Demon today.

Do you not think limiting to those two is restrictive and dangerous?

Wasn't you that want us to keep following a general plan to vote between our POE and was freaking out when people get Sabi killed?

I can understand the reason Worcej is in the pool, but I think he is town and don't think he will add much more info when he flips. Of courseif he flips scum it's great, but I don't feel it. Flum or Demon (or Blamp, I agree) will give more info even if they flip town, which I think is less likely.

A pool of four or five with five kills left is not the same as a pool of two with four kills left.

Let’s say you’re wrong about Flum and RHK. Where does that leave you?

Additionally, I’m pretty sure once I’m dead tomorrow those two plus Blamp will be the de facto kills. I’d rather push on worcej while I have one hand on the wheel

[brainbomb]

how does kakarrotto get flipped if two scum or even one scum is missing in action

it doesnt make a whole lot of sense if you think about it.
and if it wasnt just the fact blamp is basically the only other living unclear left besides pyxxy whose vote actually did get kak killed instead

[Chaqa]

No, but of the people in the pool, I'd rather flip Flum or, for that matter, DemonRHK.

I don't think RHK is scum. As long as I'm alive, I'm Veto'ing it

Why are you so sure about Demon?

I’ll type something more formal up later, but largely it’s his attitude

[Chaqa]

how does kakarrotto get flipped if two scum or even one scum is missing in action

it doesnt make a whole lot of sense if you think about it.
and if it wasnt just the fact blamp is basically the only other living unclear left besides pyxxy whose vote actually did get kak killed instead

Bad town. Day 1. Kak just pulled a fast one on everyone last game.

It’s actually pretty unsurprising it happened

[brainbomb]

lets just say we kill blamp and then kill pyxxy then we know for sure if game isnt over that a scum either bussed celaph or wasnt even online when the day ended and had no impact on the outcome

if we prioritize killing off the kak wagon we have multiple people to consider
killing among the kak voters tells us if scum actually was present and probably gives us a third scum voter on kak, the goon (scum
party whip)

[brainbomb]

how does kakarrotto get flipped if two scum or even one scum is missing in action

it doesnt make a whole lot of sense if you think about it.
and if it wasnt just the fact blamp is basically the only other living unclear left besides pyxxy whose vote actually did get kak killed instead

Bad town. Day 1. Kak just pulled a fast one on everyone last game.

It’s actually pretty unsurprising it happened

platitudes
day one nothing meaningful yaddy yadda
simply isnt true a scum almost died three people were afk and two people are potentially complicit in a cel save

its really just simple

[Chaqa]

lets just say we kill blamp and then kill pyxxy then we know for sure if game isnt over that a scum either bussed celaph or wasnt even online when the day ended and had no impact on the outcome

if we prioritize killing off the kak wagon we have multiple people to consider
killing among the kak voters tells us if scum actually was present and probably gives us a third scum voter on kak, the goon (scum
party whip)

Hmm. This argument isn’t awful, but it’s also very rigid and what happens if we get to a final three of you, worcej, and rivera somehow?

[brainbomb]

lets just say we kill blamp and then kill pyxxy then we know for sure if game isnt over that a scum either bussed celaph or wasnt even online when the day ended and had no impact on the outcome

if we prioritize killing off the kak wagon we have multiple people to consider
killing among the kak voters tells us if scum actually was present and probably gives us a third scum voter on kak, the goon (scum
party whip)

Hmm. This argument isn’t awful, but it’s also very rigid and what happens if we get to a final three of you, worcej, and rivera somehow?

then hey at least the game aint over!

id be cool with that

[brainbomb]

theres always the possibility that we will have to strap on our work gloves here and kill someone who helps us know which camp has scum left in it

we still can completely erase the kak 3rd voter pool and eliminate that entire thing as even a possibility

[brainbomb]

otherwise if you go the opposite route and kill worcej and rdrivera all you are narrowing it too is a chaotic mess of either two kak voters an afk or a cel busser tandem

supposed wcs here

[brainbomb]

id rather be in kilo choosing between someone who was afk or someone who was a busser

its simpler than three pools of thought

[Chaqa]

how does kakarrotto get flipped if two scum or even one scum is missing in action

it doesnt make a whole lot of sense if you think about it.
and if it wasnt just the fact blamp is basically the only other living unclear left besides pyxxy whose vote actually did get kak killed instead

Bad town. Day 1. Kak just pulled a fast one on everyone last game.

It’s actually pretty unsurprising it happened

platitudes
day one nothing meaningful yaddy yadda
simply isnt true a scum almost died three people were afk and two people are potentially complicit in a cel save

its really just simple

I don’t think putting pyxxy in the group makes sense given how early he was on the Kak wagon. At the time he voted, it was not at all scum being under thread. PE had four votes and no scum had more than 1