M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[President Eden]

@scumbuddy eden can i go back to lurking now?

no

your golden child had been hard tunnelling your golden girl for almost two weeks and you havent even budged an inch on your opinion of it. its like you are completely unphase by bona killing someone at the top of your core.

can you at least articulate anything at all about this?

will this finally end your isolated demands for rigor

[Bonatogether]

@scumbuddy eden can i go back to lurking now?

no

will you +1 my post at least?

[President Eden]

@scumbuddy eden can i go back to lurking now?

no

will you +1 my post at least?

ok

[President Eden]

I want to talk about the blamp thing. There was a lot of thread momentum behind that, it seemed like, and the wagon peaked at four votes 7 hours out (eden, chaqa, brainbomb, bozo) and five votes at about the 43 hour mark (sabi, bozo, chaqa, demon, eden)? that did not jibe with my perceptions of how the thread was rolling.

The first blamp wagon slowly wallowed back into a 2-vote minor wagon of chaqa and bozo, which was kinda meh. It had no momentum. People were not stuck to those votes. The wagon was really just dead from about 24 hours left, according to VCA. Reading ISO of mentions of blamp, this is pretty much confirmed. We go from people (Chaqa, eden, sabi, bozo, demon, etc) hyping up the wagon, with Chaqa even wanting a hammer, but this just falls apart. Clearly this can't be entirely scum driven because there are simply too many people for that in any game state, setting aside any reads of people. If we use the currently generally accepted game state, this is just basically a town wagon. I'd spitball it as demon but that's really just a guess.

However, some opposition to the wagon crops up. At T-28:00, brainbomb pops up and says he doesn't understand how blamp became a runaway consensus scumread. At T-24:38, I say that blamp looks better off of boat man interactions in my wallpost. Flum says at T-21:57 that he failed at a blamp ISO because he can't read him.

Looking specifically at blamp, he has the 'my perspective' post, and the two god thread submissions.

These 3 posts are the basis for the collapse of the first blamp wagon, and the fact that many people backed off because of this is something worth noting. Let's talk about these posts.

The perspective post is notable for largely being a denial that blamp has agency in the game. At no point does any action blamp take change the outcome of what is happening. The most that he can accomplish is '[getting] a couple people on board" with a d2 Maniac kill. I'm not interested in what actually happened because what's going on in blamp's head is more interesting here, and this wallpost where blamp depicts himself as an observer without agency is not what I would expect scum to think - scum tend to be much more aware of themselves in the game, because they can make calls that they see the effect of - nks are the most notable example here, but watching everything else to be aware of cases developing against teammates also promotes a self image of capacity to change things. This is a basically town mindset: feeling helpless in the face of highposters and whatever just going on and on and not listening on a real level.

The two god thread submissions are interesting because they are potentially faked or editted. I believe we can determine their legitimacy based on similarity to the perspective post.

The first god thread submission represents a substantially different mindset. "I think I need to play nice with [Chaqa] until the time is right to maybe build a case" clearly shows blamp thinking that he can get the ball rolling on Chaqa. He is planning ahead to influence the game against a person who most people strongly townread. The line "I’m not going to say this in game thread because it won’t result in anything good, but my god is it frustrating" also indicates that blamp thought people were reading his stuff - noticeably different from what his previous post said. This again shows blamp considering how he thinks of himself as an active agent.

The second god thread submission also clearly demonstrates this tendency. "I’m debating whether it would be smart for me to potentially swing the momentum back to celaph at end of day in order to avoid my own miskill if celaph ends up being scum" is a clear expression of the idea that blamp has autonomy. Blamp thinks he can influence the game state in a meaningful way here. However, let's talk about that last clause. This is sent midway through day 2, where celaph is in the lead with somewhere between 4 and 6 votes, depending on the exact timing.His most recently posted read at that time is that celaph is not a bad kill but he doesn't want it to be a foregone conclusion. So saying "if celaph ends up being scum" is a very strange statement to make when 1) blamp scumread celaph to some degree and 2) blamp cannot know if he needs to swing momentum until celaph has already died. Later on in that message, he states that "a celaph town flip that I swing onto probably still lets me live, given how much effort I have put in to raise other points of discussion." This, for me, is an enormous red flag. Why does town!blamp consider what will let him live? Why does he care what people think of his effort to raise other points of discussion? This entire PM does not make sense as a town creation. It is a description of how to best avoid the dk for the benefit of town through creating good VCA and interactions, and not creating persuasive arguments against being killed or pushing other kills.

Stepping back for a moment, looking at all 3 posts in total, we see that the 'my perspective' post is relatively towny and the GT PMs look bad, the second one especially. How do we fit this into a theory of either town! or scum!blamp?

Looking at this from a town!blamp perspective, we can see that blamp is trying to work for town in the background, with deceit. He's giving up on directly influencing people and so he has resorting to stage-managing his appearances, and he's been doing this at least since d2.

Looking at this from a scum!blamp perspective, the necessary question is why does he post these? The answer is he survives - which worked - and no one is linked to him from these because they're nominally old posts and a perspective on the game as a whole, too macro of a perspective to give detail on any player. His wagon disappeared after these due to the seemingly towny thought that went into these. Interestingly, it took blamp about 180 seconds for him to copy and paste his second PM to the thread - very long. I timed myself to do the same - it took me 22 seconds and I was confused as to where my sent messages were. I looked in the outbox and the sent messages categories before doing a full check of the inbox, where they were. What took so long for him?

I believe it's relatively clear, then, that blamp is scum, but unfortunately these posts were not closely examined at the time, as it was coming up on EoD.

Other wagons start to gain traction around this time, specifically Demon, rdr, and Sabi. Rdr's wagon quickly fell apart, but Demon's and Sabi's would head into EoD strong and evenly balanced.

What prompted the rise of the second blamp wagon?

Eden wanted to obtain some fine dining fare with a clown and brainbomb just kind of did it. This wagon had no momentum as brain immediately left and Eden tried to talk blamp into towning. It is not significant in the broader considerations of this day.

Chaqa repeatedly stated that that blamp was the optimal kill, even after town opinion started turning against the idea. This is interesting because in the early part of the day he voted for blamp as a way to take votes away from ghuginator, but he shifts over the course of the day to the position that blamp is simply the unambiguous best kill. However, with the current flip, which he correctly predicted, he has switched his read to put blamp definitely outside the POE. Therefore I am willing to claim that blamp and Chaqa 1) cannot be scum together and 2) are very unlikely to be scum together.

I could probably say more but this is already massive and I'm tired. Possibly part 2?

TL;DR:
blamp is much more likely to be scum due to inconsistencies among his 3 most crucial posts.
chaqa and blamp are probably opposite alignments, so chaqa is likely town.

reposting the meme cause it's about to be relevant
https://imgur.com/a/HSxCl0F

+1

[Fluminator]

anyway, having carefully considered all that, I am inclined to believe there’s one mafia left among worcej, rivera, and Fluminator, and one mafia left among Chaqa or Demon.

I remain strongly disinclined to believe that Bona is mafia, and Lamp and pyxxy just don’t feel mafia to me at the end of the day.

I’m unsure about the order of the five I named. I’ll take a stab anyway. RGB 1.3.1 - no blues edition!!:

1. President Eden
2. bozotheclown
3. brainbomb
4. Jamiet99uk
5. Bonatogether
6. pyxxy
7. BusinessLamp
8. Chaqa
9. rdrivera2005
10. worcej
11. DemonRHK
12. Fluminator

It's not me

[Fluminator]

Also I just got destroyed in super smash bros all night.
I miss the days of melee when I knew all the characters.

None of this new bullshit

[bozotheclown]

I’m really not thinking it’s Lamp anymore y’all. Flum sure but Lamp no.

I do still think RHK looks like a celaph busser, but BusinessLamp's voting record is suspicious as well. They both could be mafia.

[bozotheclown]

anyway, having carefully considered all that, I am inclined to believe there’s one mafia left among worcej, rivera, and Fluminator, and one mafia left among Chaqa or Demon.

I remain strongly disinclined to believe that Bona is mafia, and Lamp and pyxxy just don’t feel mafia to me at the end of the day.

I’m unsure about the order of the five I named. I’ll take a stab anyway. RGB 1.3.1 - no blues edition!!:

1. President Eden
2. bozotheclown
3. brainbomb
4. Jamiet99uk
5. Bonatogether
6. pyxxy
7. BusinessLamp
8. Chaqa
9. rdrivera2005
10. worcej
11. DemonRHK
12. Fluminator

It's not me

Why did you self vote for the last hour?

[DemonRHK]

I’m really not thinking it’s Lamp anymore y’all. Flum sure but Lamp no.

I do still think RHK looks like a celaph busser, but BusinessLamp's voting record is suspicious as well. They both could be mafia.

We need the Magic School Bus meme.

*Votes for scum at any point during any day phase*

iS tHiS a BuS!?1?!/

[President Eden]

anyway I hate to throw a wrench in things, but there’s an obvious issue in the psychoanalysis which is that Lamp’s GT submissions, if they’re to be believed, were generated almost a week ago relative to the perspective post. in the interim the following happened:

• ghug ragequit (not assigning blame here)
• there were various minor blowups involving Sabi (not assigning blame here either)
• brain and Chaqa got into it (see previous note about blame)
• several people cast maximum overcringe angsty self votes (total blame assigned here smh my head @ all y’all)
• Lamp went from a relative TR to being put up against the intractable town steamroller

under all those circumstances, it makes a lot of sense for Lamp to lose his sense of agency and underlying confidence. in fact that tonal shift is actually more proof that he’s town. if he had the exact same psychological frame that would be more evidence of doctoring the GT messages IMO.

you have to remember that we’re human here. if anything the way he’s worn his heart on his sleeve a bit has swayed me more.

now, you could ask yourself why the demoralization happened even as town objectively racked up Ws left and right, but Lamp is obviously not alone in feeling this way, and I don’t think it’s all coming from mafia.

[bozotheclown]

I want to talk about the blamp thing. There was a lot of thread momentum behind that, it seemed like, and the wagon peaked at four votes 7 hours out (eden, chaqa, brainbomb, bozo) and five votes at about the 43 hour mark (sabi, bozo, chaqa, demon, eden)? that did not jibe with my perceptions of how the thread was rolling.

The first blamp wagon slowly wallowed back into a 2-vote minor wagon of chaqa and bozo, which was kinda meh. It had no momentum. People were not stuck to those votes. The wagon was really just dead from about 24 hours left, according to VCA. Reading ISO of mentions of blamp, this is pretty much confirmed. We go from people (Chaqa, eden, sabi, bozo, demon, etc) hyping up the wagon, with Chaqa even wanting a hammer, but this just falls apart. Clearly this can't be entirely scum driven because there are simply too many people for that in any game state, setting aside any reads of people. If we use the currently generally accepted game state, this is just basically a town wagon. I'd spitball it as demon but that's really just a guess.

However, some opposition to the wagon crops up. At T-28:00, brainbomb pops up and says he doesn't understand how blamp became a runaway consensus scumread. At T-24:38, I say that blamp looks better off of boat man interactions in my wallpost. Flum says at T-21:57 that he failed at a blamp ISO because he can't read him.

Looking specifically at blamp, he has the 'my perspective' post, and the two god thread submissions.

These 3 posts are the basis for the collapse of the first blamp wagon, and the fact that many people backed off because of this is something worth noting. Let's talk about these posts.

The perspective post is notable for largely being a denial that blamp has agency in the game. At no point does any action blamp take change the outcome of what is happening. The most that he can accomplish is '[getting] a couple people on board" with a d2 Maniac kill. I'm not interested in what actually happened because what's going on in blamp's head is more interesting here, and this wallpost where blamp depicts himself as an observer without agency is not what I would expect scum to think - scum tend to be much more aware of themselves in the game, because they can make calls that they see the effect of - nks are the most notable example here, but watching everything else to be aware of cases developing against teammates also promotes a self image of capacity to change things. This is a basically town mindset: feeling helpless in the face of highposters and whatever just going on and on and not listening on a real level.

The two god thread submissions are interesting because they are potentially faked or editted. I believe we can determine their legitimacy based on similarity to the perspective post.

The first god thread submission represents a substantially different mindset. "I think I need to play nice with [Chaqa] until the time is right to maybe build a case" clearly shows blamp thinking that he can get the ball rolling on Chaqa. He is planning ahead to influence the game against a person who most people strongly townread. The line "I’m not going to say this in game thread because it won’t result in anything good, but my god is it frustrating" also indicates that blamp thought people were reading his stuff - noticeably different from what his previous post said. This again shows blamp considering how he thinks of himself as an active agent.

The second god thread submission also clearly demonstrates this tendency. "I’m debating whether it would be smart for me to potentially swing the momentum back to celaph at end of day in order to avoid my own miskill if celaph ends up being scum" is a clear expression of the idea that blamp has autonomy. Blamp thinks he can influence the game state in a meaningful way here. However, let's talk about that last clause. This is sent midway through day 2, where celaph is in the lead with somewhere between 4 and 6 votes, depending on the exact timing.His most recently posted read at that time is that celaph is not a bad kill but he doesn't want it to be a foregone conclusion. So saying "if celaph ends up being scum" is a very strange statement to make when 1) blamp scumread celaph to some degree and 2) blamp cannot know if he needs to swing momentum until celaph has already died. Later on in that message, he states that "a celaph town flip that I swing onto probably still lets me live, given how much effort I have put in to raise other points of discussion." This, for me, is an enormous red flag. Why does town!blamp consider what will let him live? Why does he care what people think of his effort to raise other points of discussion? This entire PM does not make sense as a town creation. It is a description of how to best avoid the dk for the benefit of town through creating good VCA and interactions, and not creating persuasive arguments against being killed or pushing other kills.

Stepping back for a moment, looking at all 3 posts in total, we see that the 'my perspective' post is relatively towny and the GT PMs look bad, the second one especially. How do we fit this into a theory of either town! or scum!blamp?

Looking at this from a town!blamp perspective, we can see that blamp is trying to work for town in the background, with deceit. He's giving up on directly influencing people and so he has resorting to stage-managing his appearances, and he's been doing this at least since d2.

Looking at this from a scum!blamp perspective, the necessary question is why does he post these? The answer is he survives - which worked - and no one is linked to him from these because they're nominally old posts and a perspective on the game as a whole, too macro of a perspective to give detail on any player. His wagon disappeared after these due to the seemingly towny thought that went into these. Interestingly, it took blamp about 180 seconds for him to copy and paste his second PM to the thread - very long. I timed myself to do the same - it took me 22 seconds and I was confused as to where my sent messages were. I looked in the outbox and the sent messages categories before doing a full check of the inbox, where they were. What took so long for him?

I believe it's relatively clear, then, that blamp is scum, but unfortunately these posts were not closely examined at the time, as it was coming up on EoD.

Other wagons start to gain traction around this time, specifically Demon, rdr, and Sabi. Rdr's wagon quickly fell apart, but Demon's and Sabi's would head into EoD strong and evenly balanced.

What prompted the rise of the second blamp wagon?

Eden wanted to obtain some fine dining fare with a clown and brainbomb just kind of did it. This wagon had no momentum as brain immediately left and Eden tried to talk blamp into towning. It is not significant in the broader considerations of this day.

Chaqa repeatedly stated that that blamp was the optimal kill, even after town opinion started turning against the idea. This is interesting because in the early part of the day he voted for blamp as a way to take votes away from ghuginator, but he shifts over the course of the day to the position that blamp is simply the unambiguous best kill. However, with the current flip, which he correctly predicted, he has switched his read to put blamp definitely outside the POE. Therefore I am willing to claim that blamp and Chaqa 1) cannot be scum together and 2) are very unlikely to be scum together.

I could probably say more but this is already massive and I'm tired. Possibly part 2?

TL;DR:
blamp is much more likely to be scum due to inconsistencies among his 3 most crucial posts.
chaqa and blamp are probably opposite alignments, so chaqa is likely town.

reposting the meme cause it's about to be relevant
https://imgur.com/a/HSxCl0F

I need to reread the posts, but posting them struck me as a scum ploy at the time.

[Fluminator]

anyway, having carefully considered all that, I am inclined to believe there’s one mafia left among worcej, rivera, and Fluminator, and one mafia left among Chaqa or Demon.

I remain strongly disinclined to believe that Bona is mafia, and Lamp and pyxxy just don’t feel mafia to me at the end of the day.

I’m unsure about the order of the five I named. I’ll take a stab anyway. RGB 1.3.1 - no blues edition!!:

1. President Eden
2. bozotheclown
3. brainbomb
4. Jamiet99uk
5. Bonatogether
6. pyxxy
7. BusinessLamp
8. Chaqa
9. rdrivera2005
10. worcej
11. DemonRHK
12. Fluminator

It's not me

Why did you self vote for the last hour?

A variety of reasons all meshed into one.
Potential survival or smug suicide (both wins)/showing demon, sabi how cringey it is/ frustration at Chaqa. Take your pick.

[President Eden]

It's not me

Why did you self vote for the last hour?

A variety of reasons all meshed into one.
Potential survival or smug suicide (both wins)/showing demon, sabi how cringey it is/ frustration at Chaqa. Take your pick.

bizarrely I cannot find “it was the best thing for town” anywhere in this list. but as Bona loves to remind me, I am getting old, perhaps I can’t see it

[pyxxy]

Also I just got destroyed in super smash bros all night.
I miss the days of melee when I knew all the characters.

None of this new bullshit

Have you heard the good word of Slippi?

[Chaqa]

I don't see why you're frustrated with me, Flum.

There's a number of reasons I suspected ghug and also you.

I have a pretty good read that scum is within a small group.

Am I not supposed to vote my scumreads? Are you just offended that someone might vote for you at all?

It's pretty frustrating for you to act like a victim when you've done nothing to dissuade me from your scumminess.

[President Eden]

hell I kind of even doubt Flum is mafia.

I’m really feeling my narrative on Chaqa/Demon.

I’m worried that I die tonight and then y’all just murder like Lamp and pyxxy and the d1 AFKs and then go “hOw CoUlD tHiS bE hApPeNiNg” when it doesn’t work and then guess wrong on Flum at LYLO and we lose.

[Fluminator]

Why did you self vote for the last hour?

A variety of reasons all meshed into one.
Potential survival or smug suicide (both wins)/showing demon, sabi how cringey it is/ frustration at Chaqa. Take your pick.

bizarrely I cannot find “it was the best thing for town” anywhere in this list. but as Bona loves to remind me, I am getting old, perhaps I can’t see it

Me dying probably would have been better for town than Sabi dying in hindsight. (Unless they're the flipper but I see no reason to entertain that thought.)

It felt like I had the power to kill either Demon or Sabi with my vote at the end, and if I had picked right I could have become much more clear, so I took the shot.

[President Eden]

do me a solid, Flum

I think Bona did a solid job analyzing Lamp. I think he got something big wrong and I ended up on the opposite conclusion, but aside from that I thought his process was strong and he was clearly looking to the right things.

mind weighing in, as someone who knows Lamp?

[Chaqa]

hell I kind of even doubt Flum is mafia.

I’m really feeling my narrative on Chaqa/Demon.

I’m worried that I die tonight and then y’all just murder like Lamp and pyxxy and the d1 AFKs and then go “hOw CoUlD tHiS bE hApPeNiNg” when it doesn’t work and then guess wrong on Flum at LYLO and we lose.

I'll go to bat for Blamp, at least.

Why are you so against the AFKs being the kills? Like, not even a full day phase ago, you were lockstep with me in the 4-5 player PoE, now you're suddenly pulling a brainbomb, despite me doing the exact thing you were advocating for.

I'm genuinely confused how we as a town went from having so much agreement and consensus to absolute infighting and discord in the matter of like 24 hours. It's heartbreaking, especially after the huge night we had last night thanks to the PRs.

I'm really sad you probably won't be around much longer Eden. I wanted us to carry this game to the finish line on our backs, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to get strung up for not giving up on the process we all built to win this game.

[worcej]

I want to talk about the blamp thing. There was a lot of thread momentum behind that, it seemed like, and the wagon peaked at four votes 7 hours out (eden, chaqa, brainbomb, bozo) and five votes at about the 43 hour mark (sabi, bozo, chaqa, demon, eden)? that did not jibe with my perceptions of how the thread was rolling.

The first blamp wagon slowly wallowed back into a 2-vote minor wagon of chaqa and bozo, which was kinda meh. It had no momentum. People were not stuck to those votes. The wagon was really just dead from about 24 hours left, according to VCA. Reading ISO of mentions of blamp, this is pretty much confirmed. We go from people (Chaqa, eden, sabi, bozo, demon, etc) hyping up the wagon, with Chaqa even wanting a hammer, but this just falls apart. Clearly this can't be entirely scum driven because there are simply too many people for that in any game state, setting aside any reads of people. If we use the currently generally accepted game state, this is just basically a town wagon. I'd spitball it as demon but that's really just a guess.

However, some opposition to the wagon crops up. At T-28:00, brainbomb pops up and says he doesn't understand how blamp became a runaway consensus scumread. At T-24:38, I say that blamp looks better off of boat man interactions in my wallpost. Flum says at T-21:57 that he failed at a blamp ISO because he can't read him.

Looking specifically at blamp, he has the 'my perspective' post, and the two god thread submissions.

These 3 posts are the basis for the collapse of the first blamp wagon, and the fact that many people backed off because of this is something worth noting. Let's talk about these posts.

The perspective post is notable for largely being a denial that blamp has agency in the game. At no point does any action blamp take change the outcome of what is happening. The most that he can accomplish is '[getting] a couple people on board" with a d2 Maniac kill. I'm not interested in what actually happened because what's going on in blamp's head is more interesting here, and this wallpost where blamp depicts himself as an observer without agency is not what I would expect scum to think - scum tend to be much more aware of themselves in the game, because they can make calls that they see the effect of - nks are the most notable example here, but watching everything else to be aware of cases developing against teammates also promotes a self image of capacity to change things. This is a basically town mindset: feeling helpless in the face of highposters and whatever just going on and on and not listening on a real level.

The two god thread submissions are interesting because they are potentially faked or editted. I believe we can determine their legitimacy based on similarity to the perspective post.

The first god thread submission represents a substantially different mindset. "I think I need to play nice with [Chaqa] until the time is right to maybe build a case" clearly shows blamp thinking that he can get the ball rolling on Chaqa. He is planning ahead to influence the game against a person who most people strongly townread. The line "I’m not going to say this in game thread because it won’t result in anything good, but my god is it frustrating" also indicates that blamp thought people were reading his stuff - noticeably different from what his previous post said. This again shows blamp considering how he thinks of himself as an active agent.

The second god thread submission also clearly demonstrates this tendency. "I’m debating whether it would be smart for me to potentially swing the momentum back to celaph at end of day in order to avoid my own miskill if celaph ends up being scum" is a clear expression of the idea that blamp has autonomy. Blamp thinks he can influence the game state in a meaningful way here. However, let's talk about that last clause. This is sent midway through day 2, where celaph is in the lead with somewhere between 4 and 6 votes, depending on the exact timing.His most recently posted read at that time is that celaph is not a bad kill but he doesn't want it to be a foregone conclusion. So saying "if celaph ends up being scum" is a very strange statement to make when 1) blamp scumread celaph to some degree and 2) blamp cannot know if he needs to swing momentum until celaph has already died. Later on in that message, he states that "a celaph town flip that I swing onto probably still lets me live, given how much effort I have put in to raise other points of discussion." This, for me, is an enormous red flag. Why does town!blamp consider what will let him live? Why does he care what people think of his effort to raise other points of discussion? This entire PM does not make sense as a town creation. It is a description of how to best avoid the dk for the benefit of town through creating good VCA and interactions, and not creating persuasive arguments against being killed or pushing other kills.

Stepping back for a moment, looking at all 3 posts in total, we see that the 'my perspective' post is relatively towny and the GT PMs look bad, the second one especially. How do we fit this into a theory of either town! or scum!blamp?

Looking at this from a town!blamp perspective, we can see that blamp is trying to work for town in the background, with deceit. He's giving up on directly influencing people and so he has resorting to stage-managing his appearances, and he's been doing this at least since d2.

Looking at this from a scum!blamp perspective, the necessary question is why does he post these? The answer is he survives - which worked - and no one is linked to him from these because they're nominally old posts and a perspective on the game as a whole, too macro of a perspective to give detail on any player. His wagon disappeared after these due to the seemingly towny thought that went into these. Interestingly, it took blamp about 180 seconds for him to copy and paste his second PM to the thread - very long. I timed myself to do the same - it took me 22 seconds and I was confused as to where my sent messages were. I looked in the outbox and the sent messages categories before doing a full check of the inbox, where they were. What took so long for him?

I believe it's relatively clear, then, that blamp is scum, but unfortunately these posts were not closely examined at the time, as it was coming up on EoD.

Other wagons start to gain traction around this time, specifically Demon, rdr, and Sabi. Rdr's wagon quickly fell apart, but Demon's and Sabi's would head into EoD strong and evenly balanced.

What prompted the rise of the second blamp wagon?

Eden wanted to obtain some fine dining fare with a clown and brainbomb just kind of did it. This wagon had no momentum as brain immediately left and Eden tried to talk blamp into towning. It is not significant in the broader considerations of this day.

Chaqa repeatedly stated that that blamp was the optimal kill, even after town opinion started turning against the idea. This is interesting because in the early part of the day he voted for blamp as a way to take votes away from ghuginator, but he shifts over the course of the day to the position that blamp is simply the unambiguous best kill. However, with the current flip, which he correctly predicted, he has switched his read to put blamp definitely outside the POE. Therefore I am willing to claim that blamp and Chaqa 1) cannot be scum together and 2) are very unlikely to be scum together.

I could probably say more but this is already massive and I'm tired. Possibly part 2?

TL;DR:
blamp is much more likely to be scum due to inconsistencies among his 3 most crucial posts.
chaqa and blamp are probably opposite alignments, so chaqa is likely town.

reposting the meme cause it's about to be relevant
https://imgur.com/a/HSxCl0F

I like this. This is a second sentence.