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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6021 Post by President Eden » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:23 am

DemonRHK wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:22 am
President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:20 am
DemonRHK wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:19 am
Eden, did that post serve any purpose other than self-fellatio?

You stated a bunch of things with long words to sound more important, added timers because numbers=FACTS and arrived at the same conclusion that you’re just gonna park your ass on me again.
I actually came away with it more worried about Chaqa than you, but in the words of a poor railroaded townie, “go off, king.”
Fair enough. Your prose was so indignant I could barely follow what narrative you were trying to spin.
If you read it as indignant that’s wholly your own projection.

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#6022 Post by Chaqa » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:25 am

President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:19 am
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:16 am
Option #4: all three are town and it’s 2/3 of worc, rdr, and Flum : 8-)
A possible world, but I see worcej and rivera as glorified crapshoots. They’re fine “default” solutions if all other paths have been exhausted, but those paths haven’t. Part of the reason people rightly still worry about you, aside from the implied issues above, is that you seem to think the other paths have been exhausted well before they have.
I don't know man, I'm not trying to over-simplify this, but I townread basically everyone but those three at this point. Sabi and RHK and pyxxy are kinda on the bubble, but Sabi flipped town so my POE is prety narow now

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#6023 Post by Chaqa » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:25 am

President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:20 am
DemonRHK wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:19 am
Eden, did that post serve any purpose other than self-fellatio?

You stated a bunch of things with long words to sound more important, added timers because numbers=FACTS and arrived at the same conclusion that you’re just gonna park your ass on me again.
I actually came away with it more worried about Chaqa than you, but in the words of a poor railroaded townie, “go off, king.”
You don't have to worry about me, queen

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#6024 Post by DemonRHK » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:31 am

President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:23 am
And if you don’t think timestamps are important then I’m kind of at a loss as to how you can possibly be thinking critically about the situation. Timing is actually a huge reason why #1 is so unlikely as a candidate. #1 would have consciously chosen to start and push a wagon on their Godfather teammate when no one else was voting there and said teammate was one of several people up for discussion, but plainly not a foregone conclusion as there were seven other wagons at the time. I think #1 has incorrectly been retconned to have simply been one of the people who jumped on a bandwagon when in reality #1 built the bandwagon and pushed it down the hill.
"I'm not sure what you mean, time is important. If you don't see that you're missing a lot of the ui,pact. Bona would have had to have started a wagon and pushed it shortly before EOD"

See? It's not hard.

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#6025 Post by DemonRHK » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:31 am

impact, sorry

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#6026 Post by President Eden » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:33 am

anyway, having carefully considered all that, I am inclined to believe there’s one mafia left among worcej, rivera, and Fluminator, and one mafia left among Chaqa or Demon.

I remain strongly disinclined to believe that Bona is mafia, and Lamp and pyxxy just don’t feel mafia to me at the end of the day.

I’m unsure about the order of the five I named. I’ll take a stab anyway. RGB 1.3.1 - no blues edition!!:

1. President Eden
2. bozotheclown
3. brainbomb
4. Jamiet99uk
5. Bonatogether

6. pyxxy
7. BusinessLamp

8. Chaqa
9. rdrivera2005
10. worcej
11. DemonRHK
12. Fluminator

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#6027 Post by President Eden » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:34 am

DemonRHK wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:31 am
President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:23 am
And if you don’t think timestamps are important then I’m kind of at a loss as to how you can possibly be thinking critically about the situation. Timing is actually a huge reason why #1 is so unlikely as a candidate. #1 would have consciously chosen to start and push a wagon on their Godfather teammate when no one else was voting there and said teammate was one of several people up for discussion, but plainly not a foregone conclusion as there were seven other wagons at the time. I think #1 has incorrectly been retconned to have simply been one of the people who jumped on a bandwagon when in reality #1 built the bandwagon and pushed it down the hill.
“I’m not sure what you mean, time is important. If you don’t see that you’re missing a lot of the ui,pact. Bona would have had to have started a wagon and pushed it shortly before EOD”

See? It’s not hard.
the issue is that I’ve actually made statements basically to this exact level of detail and effect before, and it hasn’t been enough for some, e.g. brain.

y’all should be mad at each other for demanding different things out of me than being mad at me for being unable to satisfy both of your preferences at the same time.

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#6028 Post by President Eden » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:35 am

oh, strike that underline on Bona. unconscious slip :smirk: he isn’t actually cleared

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#6029 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:38 am

President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:33 am
anyway, having carefully considered all that, I am inclined to believe there’s one mafia left among worcej, rivera, and Fluminator, and one mafia left among Chaqa or Demon.

I remain strongly disinclined to believe that Bona is mafia, and Lamp and pyxxy just don’t feel mafia to me at the end of the day.

I’m unsure about the order of the five I named. I’ll take a stab anyway. RGB 1.3.1 - no blues edition!!:

1. President Eden
2. bozotheclown
3. brainbomb
4. Jamiet99uk
5. Bonatogether

6. pyxxy
7. BusinessLamp

8. Chaqa
9. rdrivera2005
10. worcej
11. DemonRHK
12. Fluminator
What has Bona done to earn a strong townread?
Potato, potato; potato.

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#6030 Post by pyxxy » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:39 am

I kinda feel bad for mafia tonight. Because they have to kill someone. But killing someone is going to give us way more direction than we have right now XD

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#6031 Post by President Eden » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:40 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:38 am
President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:33 am
anyway, having carefully considered all that, I am inclined to believe there’s one mafia left among worcej, rivera, and Fluminator, and one mafia left among Chaqa or Demon.

I remain strongly disinclined to believe that Bona is mafia, and Lamp and pyxxy just don’t feel mafia to me at the end of the day.

I’m unsure about the order of the five I named. I’ll take a stab anyway. RGB 1.3.1 - no blues edition!!:

1. President Eden
2. bozotheclown
3. brainbomb
4. Jamiet99uk
5. Bonatogether

6. pyxxy
7. BusinessLamp

8. Chaqa
9. rdrivera2005
10. worcej
11. DemonRHK
12. Fluminator
What has Bona done to earn a strong townread?

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#6032 Post by President Eden » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:45 am

having given Lamp’s post on Chaqa more time, I am pleased to see that he beat me to the punch regarding Chaqa’s D1 and why it isn’t as clean as I once felt.

I don’t think Sabi flipping town even meaningfully damages the case either.

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#6033 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:45 am

im making a wallpost about a thing that i thought was important

@mafia kill me so i dont have to actually finish it pls

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#6034 Post by BusinessLamp » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:45 am

i thought the choose your own adventure post was fun!! Don’t be boring demon hahaha

The other thought I had on Chaqa yesterday that I never vocalized, was that if the whole roleblock thing was a gambit, did any analysis come from it? What was the point?

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#6035 Post by President Eden » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:50 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:45 am
im making a wallpost about a thing that i thought was important

@mafia kill me so i dont have to actually finish it pls
based
BusinessLamp wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:45 am
i thought the choose your own adventure post was fun!! Don’t be boring demon hahaha

The other thought I had on Chaqa yesterday that I never vocalized, was that if the whole roleblock thing was a gambit, did any analysis come from it? What was the point?
Not that I remember. To be fair we kind of all immediately shouted it down as a horrible idea lol… I can imagine being discouraged from rambling about—okay fine I can’t, but I can imagine why someone else would be discouraged from rambling about it.

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#6036 Post by BusinessLamp » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:50 am

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:13 am
President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:01 am
i’m so confused about the mafia allegedly shooting jamie :lol:
That would indeed imply Maniac was Flipper?
Also, could the situation be that mafia attempted to kill Jamie in an effort to confuse the town into thinking Maniac was the flipper? Which was then thrown by Jamie being doc-saved, but is now a narrative that Chaqa is trying to push?

honestly don’t know if that makes sense but it is a thought in my brain and now it is public

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#6037 Post by President Eden » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:58 am

BusinessLamp wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:50 am
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:13 am
President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:01 am
i’m so confused about the mafia allegedly shooting jamie :lol:
That would indeed imply Maniac was Flipper?
Also, could the situation be that mafia attempted to kill Jamie in an effort to confuse the town into thinking Maniac was the flipper? Which was then thrown by Jamie being doc-saved, but is now a narrative that Chaqa is trying to push?

honestly don’t know if that makes sense but it is a thought in my brain and now it is public
I follow your premise, but I don’t know how likely it is. I can’t remember what the general consensus was regarding Jamie’s alignment following Maniac’s flip. I don’t think the mafia would risk taking a potential miskill off the table (by killing at night instead of letting us miskill at day) just to bait us into some line of thought about the Flipper. But if they felt we were still going to trust Jamie after being busted fakeclaiming, they might have just gone for it on that basis, with cementing a false narrative about the Flipper being an added bonus.

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#6038 Post by President Eden » Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:59 am

alright I have 60(!!!!) percent of the words posted tonight, time to take a break and let the thread breathe lol.

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#6039 Post by BusinessLamp » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:07 am

President Eden wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:45 am
having given Lamp’s post on Chaqa more time, I am pleased to see that he beat me to the punch regarding Chaqa’s D1 and why it isn’t as clean as I once felt.

I don’t think Sabi flipping town even meaningfully damages the case either.
in my eyes the part about him weirdly actually pushing for Maniac day 2 after the vote content was just “let’s keep this interesting” is the most egregious.

this is also his pyxxy vote, which is before the maniac vote
Chaqa wrote:
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FWIW Boatman doesn't seem particularly different to me this game than last game. I'm mostly voting for him to see how it affects the wagons as the day moves closer to ending.

Either celaph or TFB provide significant information about Day 1.

That said - I'm considering we should add one more person into the mix today.

##Vote pyxxy
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#6040 Post by BusinessLamp » Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:20 am

I should probably explain my radical end of day switch on Flum being top tier town, huh

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