M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

help me fucking decminate chaqas bitch ass

I eat chipotle like it’s going out of style. My ass is undecimatble.

[DemonRHK]

were good demon
you arent scum

This.

If we lose momentum, this is why. Are ou wrong on me? Yes. But you get shot wrong. Almost no game will ever clean sweep, and you have to break eggs to make an omelette.

If you abandon every case that hurts someone’s f slings, we ain’t gonna catch shit.

[BesharamSabi]

Poe notes

Blamp:

• hasn't really made a straight answer about his celaph-Maniac vote thing in day two

• copy pasta'd God thread that may or may not be faked

• thinks worcej and brainbomb is in towncore

• flum: stated that he would not be above faking fod thread submission

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Rdr:

• made like four posts

• his reads were pretty shallow and didn't contain any references or pointed out any individual posts

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Demon:

• reactive and defeatist

• misunderstanding

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Me (Sabi)

• I out your notes here

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[Chaqa]

FWIW I don’t see the case on Demon

consider reading glasses

brain has been posting it pretty explicitly, albeit piecemeal and not in one wall which lets be honest you wouldn’t read anyway. do you care to pontificate about what it is you don’t see in the case?

Possibly once I’m on my laptop in the morning. I think it’s more that I prefer the wagons I find scummy based on my own analysis, which cleared Demon pretty well

[Chaqa]

fuck it this shit sounds cash

##VOTE Chaqa

[BesharamSabi]

The more I think about rdr reads the more bothered I am about how shallow. They are.

The man has been lurking/barely here.

His reads are like single lines long.

No thoughts, no examples, not even questioning people.

Just shallow and empty.

[BesharamSabi]

The more I think about rdr reads the more bothered I am about how shallow. They are.

The man has been lurking/barely here.

His reads are like single lines long.

No thoughts, no examples, not even questioning people.

Just shallow and empty.

He hasn't made reference to a single post in his catch up.

We had a lot happen today and he didn't have questions at all.

[Chaqa]

I’m basically at:

Blamp then Flum then worcej then rdr

Leaves one more at LYLO, if we get to it, I probably won’t be around for

Claims could influence this of course

[BesharamSabi]

I think I'm at rdr at this point. ##VOTE rdr

[Fluminator]

I’m basically at:

Blamp then Flum then worcej then rdr

Leaves one more at LYLO, if we get to it, I probably won’t be around for

Claims could influence this of course

Do you have a post where you explain why it's so clear cut that you're trying to shut down people investigating others as "town imploding"? I'll volunteer to abide by this if you convince me.

[Chaqa]

I’m basically at:

Blamp then Flum then worcej then rdr

Leaves one more at LYLO, if we get to it, I probably won’t be around for

Claims could influence this of course

Do you have a post where you explain why it's so clear cut that you're trying to shut down people investigating others as "town imploding"? I'll volunteer to abide by this if you convince me.

Not one single post, no. I’ve had several posts analyzing the D1 and D2 wagons, combined with the obvious town clears and info, combined with a few gut reads.

I’m not so much trying to shut down investigations as warning against letting tinfoil and paranoia overtake the consensus we built previously.

[President Eden]

FWIW I don’t see the case on Demon

consider reading glasses

brain has been posting it pretty explicitly, albeit piecemeal and not in one wall which lets be honest you wouldn’t read anyway. do you care to pontificate about what it is you don’t see in the case?

Possibly once I’m on my laptop in the morning. I think it’s more that I prefer the wagons I find scummy based on my own analysis, which cleared Demon pretty well

please restate that analysis

[Chaqa]

Plus, if anything, I’m mostly just cautious of this building suspicion on Demon. I don’t want us to waste valuable days and wind up with like Blamp or RDR in the endgame

[Chaqa]

@eden

https://i.imgur.com/dFYQOrd.png

This image highlights an important timeline in D1.

Specifically, I'm looking at who was NOT voting for celaph or TFB in the second row.

Blamp
Damo
Demon
ghug
Jamie
pyxxy
TFB
rivera
Maccaworcej

Damo is dead town. Jamie is clear. Takng out Demon b/c his next vote is onto celaph, which I believe he does not do as scum since celaph was the Godfather.

Blamp
ghug
pyxxy
TFB
rivera
Maccaworcej

Interesting list.

One conf scum (TFB) as well as all the other players in our PoE :)

By Day 2, mafia has had time to deliberate and also find out what their Flipper chose. A strategy begins to form. Keep an eye on celaph, TFB, and our gang of five:

Blamp
ghuginator
pyxxy
rivera
Maccaworcej

What's interesting is that TFB, despite not voting celaph Day 1, piles on him early on Day 2, stays with the celaph wagon, except for a brief stint over to Maniac. This makes me think that during the night, mafia planned to bus celaph. TFB (and likely his teammates) put effort into saving TFB at the expense of celaph (at least this is my assertion).

Therefore, I find those who voted onto TFB during this early period and later to be less likely to be scum: brain and rivera (this actually is some solid evidence rivera might be town, IMO).

There is also a nascent Maniac wagon being formed here by Blamp and then Jamie and then ghug. This might be a counter wagon to protect both teammates? When I switched over to Maniac, i was followed by TFB and then Sabi. This is one mark against Sabi, though there are not many others.

During this time, ghug never votes for celaph or TFB. He is always lock solid on Maniac. When it is tied 6-6 between TFB and Maniac with celaph at 5, TFB and Blamp move to celaph to seal his fate.

Updated PoE coming soon.

[President Eden]

so what I’m seeing is a conclusory statement that Demon is not mafia because of his vote for celaph… meanwhile brain and I have been discussing the fact that that very vote is not exonerating given the spot Demon put himself in.

[Chaqa]

so what I’m seeing is a conclusory statement that Demon is not mafia because of his vote for celaph… meanwhile brain and I have been discussing the fact that that very vote is not exonerating given the spot Demon put himself in.

Basically. Because his vote happened on Day 1, not Day 2, I don’t think there’s any reason to suspect him yet.

I also don’t really get any “vibes” that he is scum, which is shaky but also a pretty reliable indicator for me personally most of the time.

I’m open to exploring the case on him, I just don’t think he should be the vote today.

[DemonRHK]

so what I’m seeing is a conclusory statement that Demon is not mafia because of his vote for celaph… meanwhile brain and I have been discussing the fact that that very vote is not exonerating given the spot Demon put himself in.

You want my entire counter arguement?

I ended D1 and D2 just n scum, I high not a lot of you did.

If I was scum, I’d be putting in more than dirt than this. I have been riding Eden’s coattails since we put our disagreement with her m D1 when I was trying to do what I saw as white knighting for Sabi in wake of the D1 meltdown.

I slops D2 as I stated, and D3 was a wash. I’ve been keeping mostly up on the gist of the thread while not pouring over it too hard.

If the choice was mine, I puked swing the subs for the next two days then policy rdr bless her votes show data on tgerwise or a scan comes out.

[Fluminator]

Oh I didn't realize TFB vs. Celaph was a major thing day 1 too lol.

[President Eden]

I’m just going to be repeating myself at this point which is slightly irritating as I don’t think my reasoning is particularly opaque or complex.

The bigger question is whether mafia Demon declares his teammate celaph as his top suspect at ~1h before EOD1.

[brainbomb]

the more chaqa makes dismissive remarks about players research and acts like the game is in its final stages tells me that a bona chaqa scumteam is still absolutely alive and resides well outside any POE that currently exists from anyone