M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BesharamSabi]

hi friends my weekend romantic getaway is coming to a close, flying back now

I'm happy for you and Flum

[President Eden]

yea I’ll be honest I kinda mentally filed Demon away after the d1 celaph vote, and on further reflection maybe too quickly.

we kinda dragged him kicking and screaming to it.

the thing that I liked most from him post-D1 was his observation RE: Maniac’s vote switch, but in retrospect that doesn’t carry as much weight if Maniac not only flipped town but, we think, was set up as a miskill by the mafia...

[BusinessLamp]

Why did you move to celaph? I thought you townread him.

anyway yea the whole day i was thinking that unless the maniac wagon picked up steam i'd move to celaph. even then i think i wouldve. idk. i never really was that confident in my townread of him i just pushed other stuff to try and make the day have more content (without deliberately announcing that was the goal like others lol).

I think this post is the best example of why BusinessLamp is a good scum candidate.

what about it?

[brainbomb]

the reason why RHK choosing cop as the flipper never amounted to anything is because town was stomping so hard that a cc was so ill advised anywhere in the process

[bozotheclown]

##Vote bozo

celaph is my top scumread. I refuse to vote along Eden. We're too far apart this game.

Bozo has not given us anything, other than a 'ghug is probably mafaa'

##vote celaph

Reasons previously stated. I'll table my issues with the other voters for now.

RHK was doing the same thing TFB was doing D2, claiming celaph was their top scum read and finding a reason not to vote for them. When RHK did finally vote for celaph, celaph and TFB were the top wagons. Also, I could not these previously stated reads, other than "celaph is my top scumread".

[BesharamSabi]

Sidenote: what's everyone's thoughts on dairy milk

[brainbomb]

##Vote bozo

celaph is my top scumread. I refuse to vote along Eden. We're too far apart this game.

Bozo has not given us anything, other than a 'ghug is probably mafaa'

##vote celaph

Reasons previously stated. I'll table my issues with the other voters for now.

RHK was doing the same thing TFB was doing D2, claiming celaph was their top scum read and finding a reason not to vote for them. When RHK did finally vote for celaph, celaph and TFB were the top wagons. Also, I could not these previously stated reads, other than "celaph is my top scumread".

my immediate thought is to artificially drive up suspicions on celaph so he gets cop scanned and found inno

[brainbomb]

it of course backfired because the more you plant the idea that a scumbuddy is scum town can start to arrive at the same conclusion and then your actual scum buddy dies instead

[BusinessLamp]

I was not previously looking at BusinessLamp's D2 vote close enough. With TFB confirmed mafia, BusinessLamp's switch to celaph to break the tie between celaph and TFB now looks like an attempt to leave a better voting record. Also, on D1, when I voted for Kakarroto, BusinessLamp could have followed to discourage any last second switches from Kakarroto to celaph. That is what I suspected Jamie might be doing D1.

I now think Fluminator and BusinessLamp are the most likely to be the remaining mafia. Sabi is still a reasonable possibility if one or both of Fluminator and BusinessLamp are town.

Didn’t you previously state that if you were scum in that situation, you would’ve not voted or bussed? Why don’t you think I would have acted that same way?

[BusinessLamp]

I think I’m missing info regarding who is clear etc, trying to catch up reading backwards

[bozotheclown]

anyway yea the whole day i was thinking that unless the maniac wagon picked up steam i'd move to celaph. even then i think i wouldve. idk. i never really was that confident in my townread of him i just pushed other stuff to try and make the day have more content (without deliberately announcing that was the goal like others lol).

I think this post is the best example of why BusinessLamp is a good scum candidate.

what about it?

It is the same reasoning TFB gave for voting for Maniac, claiming you think you would have moved back to celaph regardless of what happened with the Maniac wagon is not consistent with how you were pushing for Maniac, and you did not move back to celaph until both celaph and TFB were ahead of Maniac.

[BusinessLamp]

Wait so has Eden outed reports?

[bozotheclown]

I was not previously looking at BusinessLamp's D2 vote close enough. With TFB confirmed mafia, BusinessLamp's switch to celaph to break the tie between celaph and TFB now looks like an attempt to leave a better voting record. Also, on D1, when I voted for Kakarroto, BusinessLamp could have followed to discourage any last second switches from Kakarroto to celaph. That is what I suspected Jamie might be doing D1.

I now think Fluminator and BusinessLamp are the most likely to be the remaining mafia. Sabi is still a reasonable possibility if one or both of Fluminator and BusinessLamp are town.

Didn’t you previously state that if you were scum in that situation, you would’ve not voted or bussed? Why don’t you think I would have acted that same way?

I voted when the wagons were tied, you voted after I had already broken the tie.

[BusinessLamp]

I think this post is the best example of why BusinessLamp is a good scum candidate.

what about it?

It is the same reasoning TFB gave for voting for Maniac, claiming you think you would have moved back to celaph regardless of what happened with the Maniac wagon is not consistent with how you were pushing for Maniac, and you did not move back to celaph until both celaph and TFB were ahead of Maniac.

I mean yeah I can’t deny my intentions weren’t exactly clear, so if that play leads to me being voted that’s a lesson to learn for the future, was trying to play clever. I think you can see a similar over-claiming of confidence on a push when I pressured Pyxxy on lying about their reasons for voting TFB. I was waiting for 5 min before to move to celaph, but when I saw chaqa’s vote I took that as the cue

[President Eden]

##Vote bozo

celaph is my top scumread. I refuse to vote along Eden. We're too far apart this game.

Bozo has not given us anything, other than a 'ghug is probably mafaa'

##vote celaph

Reasons previously stated. I'll table my issues with the other voters for now.

RHK was doing the same thing TFB was doing D2, claiming celaph was their top scum read and finding a reason not to vote for them. When RHK did finally vote for celaph, celaph and TFB were the top wagons. Also, I could not these previously stated reads, other than "celaph is my top scumread".

my immediate thought is to artificially drive up suspicions on celaph so he gets cop scanned and found inno

wow that’s a fantastic point

[President Eden]

Wait so has Eden outed reports?

yea I have a guilty on you, tough break gl next game

[BusinessLamp]

I was not previously looking at BusinessLamp's D2 vote close enough. With TFB confirmed mafia, BusinessLamp's switch to celaph to break the tie between celaph and TFB now looks like an attempt to leave a better voting record. Also, on D1, when I voted for Kakarroto, BusinessLamp could have followed to discourage any last second switches from Kakarroto to celaph. That is what I suspected Jamie might be doing D1.

I now think Fluminator and BusinessLamp are the most likely to be the remaining mafia. Sabi is still a reasonable possibility if one or both of Fluminator and BusinessLamp are town.

Didn’t you previously state that if you were scum in that situation, you would’ve not voted or bussed? Why don’t you think I would have acted that same way?

I voted when the wagons were tied, you voted after I had already broken the tie.

Right so you’re saying I was acting to prevent two people switching their votes so celaph would leave? Why would I associate myself in that if the risk is fairly low

[BusinessLamp]

is Sabi mechanically cleared? Why are they written off

[President Eden]

Demon, you should probably talk to us about your statement that you were going to scan celaph. I ignored your early counterclaim as being a joke, but I do think the latter one happened after the memeing had ceased.

[BusinessLamp]

Jamie fake claiming and retracting is the stupidest thing ever imo

like it’s a really arrogant move? Idk