M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

I did some projections based off what I think is likely to happen, and while I'm confident we're in a good spot, I do think our large towncore could become a liability if we don't catch scum relatively quickly.

A final 7 at 5-2 with this group seems possible if we're wrong on Blamp, rivera, and worcej, for example:
BesharamSabi
Bonatogether
brainbomb
Chaqa
DemonRHK
Fluminator
pyxxy

At this point I think diverging viewpoints and infighting could be an issue and town could have some issues.

[Chaqa]

I need to go back and analyze the D1 and D2 wagons again given the Maniac and TFB flips. Probably that will happen tomorrow.

[President Eden]

revised RGB power rankings. mostly for bot readability, but also for a little more explanation. these ARE in order.

1. President Eden
2. bozotheclown
3. Jamiet99uk
4. Chaqa
5. brainbomb
6. Bonatogether
7. DemonRHK
8. pyxxy
9. BesharamSabi
10. Fluminator
11. worcej
12. rdrivera2005
13. BusinessLamp

green = towncore; people outside my POE list. I would need very compelling reason to consider putting any of these people in the POE pool. While I think the probability of any mafia being in this group is low, I have underlined the people who I will never consider removing from towncore because I just don’t see a world where they can be mafia. But all of these people are town until proven otherwise, IMO. I would need to see actual PRs from the reds or blues and then flip most of the reds and blues before reconsidering.

blue = presumed town in various degrees, but ultimately within POE list. I would consider killing these people if the game isn’t over after removing the reds, but for now I think they’re town.

red = POE pool. most likely remaining mafia, IMO. start here in working out the rest of the game.

[President Eden]

I did some projections based off what I think is likely to happen, and while I’m confident we’re in a good spot, I do think our large towncore could become a liability if we don’t catch scum relatively quickly.

A final 7 at 5-2 with this group seems possible if we’re wrong on Blamp, rivera, and worcej, for example:
BesharamSabi
Bonatogether
brainbomb
Chaqa
DemonRHK
Fluminator
pyxxy

At this point I think diverging viewpoints and infighting could be an issue and town could have some issues.

y’all just need to keep cool heads and trust each other.

I will probably have a spiel on this before I shuffle off to the god thread

[President Eden]

interesting that your projected final 9 literally matches my list perfectly

[President Eden]

final 7, rather. lol

[BesharamSabi]

revised RGB power rankings. mostly for bot readability, but also for a little more explanation. these ARE in order.

1. President Eden
2. bozotheclown
3. Jamiet99uk
4. Chaqa
5. brainbomb
6. Bonatogether
7. DemonRHK
8. pyxxy
9. BesharamSabi
10. Fluminator
11. worcej
12. rdrivera2005
13. BusinessLamp

green = towncore; people outside my POE list. I would need very compelling reason to consider putting any of these people in the POE pool. While I think the probability of any mafia being in this group is low, I have underlined the people who I will never consider removing from towncore because I just don’t see a world where they can be mafia. But all of these people are town until proven otherwise, IMO. I would need to see actual PRs from the reds or blues and then flip most of the reds and blues before reconsidering.

blue = presumed town in various degrees, but ultimately within POE list. I would consider killing these people if the game isn’t over after removing the reds, but for now I think they’re town.

red = POE pool. most likely remaining mafia, IMO. start here in working out the rest of the game.

HOW DID I FALL AGAIN

[BesharamSabi]

Can eden explain why he keeps putting me and dropping me from his town group

[Chaqa]

https://i.imgur.com/dFYQOrd.png

This image highlights an important timeline in D1.

Specifically, I'm looking at who was NOT voting for celaph or TFB in the second row.

Blamp
Damo
Demon
ghug
Jamie
pyxxy
TFB
rivera
Maccaworcej

Damo is dead town. Jamie is clear. Takng out Demon b/c his next vote is onto celaph, which I believe he does not do as scum since celaph was the Godfather.

Blamp
ghug
pyxxy
TFB
rivera
Maccaworcej

Interesting list.

One conf scum (TFB) as well as all the other players in our PoE :)

[Bonatogether]

Nah I’m just playing

##Vote BusinessLamp

no retracting hard claims

##vote chaqa

[Chaqa]

If we get lucky and the Doctor is in that list above, I think this game is close to auto.

[President Eden]

yea I’m thinking EOD1 is super decisive info here. good call to go back and look.

I will continue to hammer home that I was adamant on Kak being innocent and practically begging Kak voters to engage with my reasons why. Overwhelmingly that engagement did not occur. I firmly believe that’s because the mafia were jumping on it to save multiple of their own. I very strongly felt a lack of negotiation over the reads which had the heavy hammer of a hostile agenda.

[Bonatogether]

BesharamSabi
Bonatogether
bozotheclown
brainbomb
BusinessLamp
Chaqa
DemonRHK
Fluminator
Jamiet99uk
worcej
President Eden
pyxxy
rdrivera2005

Green is townclear or super town.

Blue is prob town.

Rest are my idea for our four kills before LYLO

move sabi to blue and this is where i'm at

[Fluminator]

If it's confirmed Maniac was town and Jamiet is town, then going forward Jamiet is NEVER EVER allowed to get angry at me for lying as town ever again.

I will bookmark this page and bring it up everytime Jamiet tries to kill me for that in the future.

Are we clear Jamiet?

[President Eden]

Can eden explain why he keeps putting me and dropping me from his town group

I have you as the fifth most likely mafia out of 11 people who aren’t actually mod confirmed town to me. There are two mafia left. You are a contingency suspect at best.

I don’t do this to get a rise out of you or make you feel bad.

[Fluminator]

I will reread Blamp tommorrow. I suspect I should be able to read him pretty good. At the moment I'd still prefer Rdr but that's entirely selfish out of game reasons admittedly.

I guess I should put in some effort if I'm actually sticking around a bit longer.

[Bonatogether]

do you see why it’s confusing that you have strong feelings about preferring to kill Lamp over rivera, yet have no specific reason whatsoever not to kill rivera?

Because I scum read blamp and null read rdr.

That's it.

But WHY

me this entire game

[President Eden]

If it’s confirmed Maniac was town and Jamiet is town, then going forward Jamiet is NEVER EVER allowed to get angry at me for lying as town ever again.

I will bookmark this page and bring it up everytime Jamiet tries to kill me for that in the future.

Are we clear Jamiet?

finally somebody is getting to the real issues around here

[BesharamSabi]

Can eden explain why he keeps putting me and dropping me from his town group

I have you as the fifth most likely mafia out of 11 people who aren’t actually mod confirmed town to me. There are two mafia left. You are a contingency suspect at best.

I don’t do this to get a rise out of you or make you feel bad.

I know. I'm tired of the hot and cold. The yoyo. The will he, won't he.

[President Eden]

I will reread Blamp tommorrow. I suspect I should be able to read him pretty good. At the moment I’d still prefer Rdr but that’s entirely selfish out of game reasons admittedly.

I guess I should put in some effort if I’m actually sticking around a bit longer.

juicy. bet they’re related to Lamp y’all........