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Re: M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#3641 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:59 pm

My d3 kill noms are blamp and Maniac.

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#3642 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:01 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:49 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:39 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:37 pm


Bozo why are you ignoring the fact you were wrong about blamp, celaph interactions lol
What do you mean?
Blamp x Celaph number of post of both direct and indirect mentions of each other:
The numbers https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... p=drivesdk

Day 1:

Blamp mentions celaph in 5 posts (out of 61)
Celaph mentions blamp in 6 posts (out of 30)

Night 2:

Blamp mentions celaph in 7 posts out of 28
Celaph none

Day 2: (both of them are done on sheet)

Blamp mentions in 22 posts out of 91
Celaph 6 posts in 46 posts

Do you not see how day 1 is not a fair amount??? Do you not see the somewhat artifical increase by blamp?
I was only looking at celaph's posts, and 6 out of 30 is a fair amount when there are 19 players.

I do not know if there is a reason to think BusinessLamp's increase in celaph mentions D2 was "artificial", celaph was a general topic of discussion D2.

BusinessLamp could have voted for Kakarroto right after I did D1 to make sure the vote did not swing back to celaph, and he could have been bussing celaph D2 by voting for him with 5 minutes left, but I do not think it is particularly likely.

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#3643 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:01 pm

President Eden wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:42 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:54 am
brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:47 am
if we wanna be sure to stimulate an environment where the cop scans are irrelevant as possible then lets use WCS thinking. Im fine with that.
Unfortunately the presence of a Flipper, a Miller and a Godfather means Cop is seriously weakened in this particular McSetup
too bad the Cop is such a weak player too
Now now, don't be so hard on the guy.
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#3644 Post by President Eden » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:01 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:59 pm
My d3 kill noms are blamp and Maniac.
how do you end up wanting both? either individually make sense, the team doesn’t, IMO

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#3645 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:06 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:01 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:49 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:39 pm


What do you mean?
Blamp x Celaph number of post of both direct and indirect mentions of each other:
The numbers https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... p=drivesdk

Day 1:

Blamp mentions celaph in 5 posts (out of 61)
Celaph mentions blamp in 6 posts (out of 30)

Night 2:

Blamp mentions celaph in 7 posts out of 28
Celaph none

Day 2: (both of them are done on sheet)

Blamp mentions in 22 posts out of 91
Celaph 6 posts in 46 posts

Do you not see how day 1 is not a fair amount??? Do you not see the somewhat artifical increase by blamp?
I was only looking at celaph's posts, and 6 out of 30 is a fair amount when there are 19 players.

I do not know if there is a reason to think BusinessLamp's increase in celaph mentions D2 was "artificial", celaph was a general topic of discussion D2.

BusinessLamp could have voted for Kakarroto right after I did D1 to make sure the vote did not swing back to celaph, and he could have been bussing celaph D2 by voting for him with 5 minutes left, but I do not think it is particularly likely.
Celaph in d1 mentioned me in 12 posts and Eden in 11 posts (the most) which is nearly double blamp posts. You have to look in context.

The celaph bussing is 100% possible if you look at blamp behavior in the last 20 minutes of eod.

Look at what I have said about this

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#3646 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:08 pm

President Eden wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:01 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:59 pm
My d3 kill noms are blamp and Maniac.
how do you end up wanting both? either individually make sense, the team doesn’t, IMO
Do you theorise that if one Is scum, the other is town?
Potato, potato; potato.

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#3647 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:08 pm

President Eden wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:01 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:59 pm
My d3 kill noms are blamp and Maniac.
how do you end up wanting both? either individually make sense, the team doesn’t, IMO
How? By looking at their posts and interactions/mentions of celaph and visa versa.

I'm fine with either atm, need to spend more time thinking who is a better target of the two.

Either flips tells a lot about the other alignment imo.

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#3648 Post by brainbomb » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:09 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:08 pm
President Eden wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:01 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:59 pm
My d3 kill noms are blamp and Maniac.
how do you end up wanting both? either individually make sense, the team doesn’t, IMO
Do you theorise that if one Is scum, the other is town?

actual footage of Jamie reading the game
https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdA2me1K/
What can I say? I'm survivin'
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#3649 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:11 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:09 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:08 pm
President Eden wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:01 pm

how do you end up wanting both? either individually make sense, the team doesn’t, IMO
Do you theorise that if one Is scum, the other is town?

actual footage of Jamie reading the game
https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdA2me1K/
Actual recording of Brainbomb outlining his approach to Mafia theory:

www.zombo.com
Potato, potato; potato.

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#3650 Post by brainbomb » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:13 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:11 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:09 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:08 pm


Do you theorise that if one Is scum, the other is town?

actual footage of Jamie reading the game
https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdA2me1K/
Actual recording of Brainbomb outlining his approach to Mafia theory:

www.zombo.com
I listened to this for way too long expecting something interesting
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#3651 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:13 pm

Eden what are your thoughts on blamps behavior in the last 20 minutes of eod and his explanation of what he did?

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#3652 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:16 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:23 pm
BOZO OH MY GOD I FOUND SOMETHING INCREDIBLE
I read this post for way too long expecting something interesting.
Potato, potato; potato.

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#3653 Post by Bonatogether » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:22 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:13 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:11 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:09 pm



actual footage of Jamie reading the game
https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdA2me1K/
Actual recording of Brainbomb outlining his approach to Mafia theory:

www.zombo.com
I listened to this for way too long expecting something interesting
lmao :lol:

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#3654 Post by Chaqa » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:38 pm

President Eden wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:44 pm
brainbomb wrote:
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If a plane crashes at sea where do you bury the survivors?
In the wreckage, they expect one of us brother
If anyone in this group is Bane, it's Jamie

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#3655 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:39 pm

Hi blamp

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#3656 Post by President Eden » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:39 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:08 pm
President Eden wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:01 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:59 pm
My d3 kill noms are blamp and Maniac.
how do you end up wanting both? either individually make sense, the team doesn’t, IMO
Do you theorise that if one Is scum, the other is town?
fairly strongly yes. Can’t imagine Lamp pushing partner Maniac all day long on d2 just to end up killing partner celaph.

It’s possible they’re both town, but at various points they were quite clearly forwarding mafia agenda (help celaph survive as long as possible, or try to frame townies for not pushing celaph out, as it were). All 3 of Lamp, Maniac and celaph being mafia would be comical.

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#3657 Post by Chaqa » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:40 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:23 pm
BOZO OH MY GOD I FOUND SOMETHING INCREDIBLE
WHAT IS IT?

The suspense is killing me

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#3658 Post by President Eden » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:41 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:13 pm
Eden what are your thoughts on blamps behavior in the last 20 minutes of eod and his explanation of what he did?
I don’t remember it. I was “around” for EOD but not really.

I remember Lamp hard pushing Maniac all day based on Maniac’s defense of celaph. If Maniac is mafia then Lamp is basically in the clear if you ask me. If Maniac is town then that play perfectly fits what you’d expect mafia to want to do in that situation, which is concede celaph’s demise and try to drag as many townies down with celaph as possible.

That forms the basis of my read.

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#3659 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:46 pm

President Eden wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:41 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:13 pm
Eden what are your thoughts on blamps behavior in the last 20 minutes of eod and his explanation of what he did?
I don’t remember it. I was “around” for EOD but not really.

I remember Lamp hard pushing Maniac all day based on Maniac’s defense of celaph. If Maniac is mafia then Lamp is basically in the clear if you ask me. If Maniac is town then that play perfectly fits what you’d expect mafia to want to do in that situation, which is concede celaph’s demise and try to drag as many townies down with celaph as possible.

That forms the basis of my read.
Please reread the last twenty minutes of eod.

Read blamp total tone change irt celaph.

Look at the vote count when he changed his vote.

None of his actions and behavior makes sense for a member of town who was pushing for a wagon on a player

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#3660 Post by Chaqa » Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:46 pm

President Eden wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:41 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:13 pm
Eden what are your thoughts on blamps behavior in the last 20 minutes of eod and his explanation of what he did?
I don’t remember it. I was “around” for EOD but not really.

I remember Lamp hard pushing Maniac all day based on Maniac’s defense of celaph. If Maniac is mafia then Lamp is basically in the clear if you ask me. If Maniac is town then that play perfectly fits what you’d expect mafia to want to do in that situation, which is concede celaph’s demise and try to drag as many townies down with celaph as possible.

That forms the basis of my read.
If only one of BLamp/Maniac is scum, who are the other (2 or 3??)

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