M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

Is anyone reading my posts? I wouldnt mind feedback and opinions. I think ive established at a minimum that celaph was godfather and tfb isnt scum.

some of my other thoughts are maybe more intuitive than factual

i like this series

[bozotheclown]

Bonatogether, Chaqa, RHK, PE, and TFB all voted for celaph at the beginning of D2. I think there is likely at least one busser in this group. Chaqa and TFB both participated in the Maniac wagon, but I would not rule out Bonatogether or RHK hard bussing celaph.

[brainbomb]

Bonatogether, Chaqa, RHK, PE, and TFB all voted for celaph at the beginning of D2. I think there is likely at least one busser in this group. Chaqa and TFB both participated in the Maniac wagon, but I would not rule out Bonatogether or RHK hard bussing celaph.

who are you ruling out here?

[Maniac]

did celaph use hedging on maniac near eod 2 to encourage people to kill
maniac?

Do you mean you suspect Celaph hedged on Maniac to make people suspect Maniac more after Celaph's flip?

I think celaph hedged on maniac to justify why the maniac wagon was scum driven for when maniac flips town.

Good to see you have supreme confidence in me flipping town. You wouldn’t have any inside knowledge would you?

[brainbomb]

Do you mean you suspect Celaph hedged on Maniac to make people suspect Maniac more after Celaph's flip?

I think celaph hedged on maniac to justify why the maniac wagon was scum driven for when maniac flips town.

Good to see you have supreme confidence in me flipping town. You wouldn’t have any inside knowledge would you?

just the divine power of actually reading the game

[brainbomb]

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, is Bona scum?

https://youtu.be/LvUItaradGE

[Jamiet99uk]

so from your perspective you were already scumreading maniac for his stances on celaph because they were weird stances. And maniac was advocating for bizarre courses of action on chaqa as well but lacked any conviction to do anything. is it safe to say youve never townread maniac this game?

No, that was not the entire basis for my scumread, but it was part of it. There was also the fact that Maniac moved off TFB when TFB's wagon was only one vote off first place, and *then* claimed he felt he had to do that because the wagon was "collapsing", when in fact he was the person who caused it to lose traction.

No, it is not safe to say I've never townread Maniac, that would be incorrect. If you look on pages 43 and 46 you will see that I townleaned Maniac during most of D1. I first started to suspect Maniac at EoD1 when he repeatedly said "kill Chaqa" but then wouldn't join the Chaqa wagon. He also bothered me by attempting to bait votes onto me by lying that I had lied.

[brainbomb]

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?us ... orcej&g=73


this is the only posts where celaph mentions worcej at all.

[damo666]

l

I mean, obviously the information about Maniac's alignment. But I think more importantly, thinking about flipping people in terms of what information they reveal is an easy way to push out townies. People should vote Maniac if they think he's scum, I am just skeptical that he is.

What does this statement mean to you damo and jamie?

Slightly SI for M

[Bonatogether]

I think blamp was also working towards this goal flipping town!Maniac in order to take the heat off Celaph. Fin.

love this post

hate that like 5 people will quote the entire thing to nitpick 1 line

[damo666]

Is there a possible world in which Flipper Celaph chooses Godfather to make us think the Godfather is dead, thus making us wrongly townclear the actual Godfather?

Or celaph was flipper and the GF remains hidden.

What do you mean "OR"? You literally just repeated what I said.

I thought you meant Bozo as GF. I mean anyone other than Bozo.

[Jamiet99uk]

Or celaph was flipper and the GF remains hidden.

What do you mean "OR"? You literally just repeated what I said.

I thought you meant Bozo as GF. I mean anyone other than Bozo.

You are sure that Bozo is town.

[rdrivera2005]

if there is a hard busser its chaqa. celaph spent the most time in omgus vs chaqa

I think Chaqa have done it not long ago and it will be hard to try the same trick again. I think if there is a scum on those three it's likely Damo.

[damo666]

What do you mean "OR"? You literally just repeated what I said.

I thought you meant Bozo as GF. I mean anyone other than Bozo.

You are sure that Bozo is town.

No. Although I think it's pretty likely. That's why it's OR.

Enough of this anyway. We are agreed (I think).

[Jamiet99uk]

I thought you meant Bozo as GF. I mean anyone other than Bozo.

You are sure that Bozo is town.

No. Although I think it's pretty likely. That's why it's OR.

Enough of this anyway. We are agreed (I think).

Yeah just about.

[brainbomb]

I was just pondering if we three (damo, jamie, myself) share a common scumread here?

[Bonatogether]

too lazy to look for brain's most updated grade sheet but 1) this is very towny for beancomb and 2) very informative

i disagree that celaph necessarily only put town cause he's a sneaky guy who would try and put scum there. will try to take a look as to why everyone he says is on there and figure things out from there

[brainbomb]

worcej has been downgraded to a D

[BesharamSabi]

Like there was no transition of blamp posts from CELAPH IS Town to VOTE CELAPH LESSGOOOO.

All in span of 14 minutes?

Yes its eod, emotions are wild

But like idk it feels like signal?

Here's how the votes looked like around then:

00:22 ghu Cha➙Man 6 The 6 Man 5 cel
00:06 Cha Man➙cel 6 The 6 cel 5 Man
00:06 Bus Man➙cel 7 cel 6 The 4 Man
00:05 The Man➙cel 8 cel 6 The 3 Man
00:05 ghu Man➙Man 8 cel 6 The 3 Man
00:03 dam The➙cel 9 cel 5 The 3 Man

What's odd was Blamp number one vote for the whole day, Maniac, was still tied when he suddenly switched to celaph?

It's weird. I need to relook at this with fresh eyes.

I kinda dig his explanation though. It clearly was not image motivated, and I don't see why scum Blamp takes the time to try to save celaph if he's just going to move to kill him.

The tone shift about celaph.

Him working all of day 2 for Maniac to be voted and when he's tied for lead, decides to say fuck it let's go on celaph?

Makes zero sense for someone who is town, who scum read Maniac all day and pushed for him all day, to do this.

OK someone with fresh eyes look at this. Tell me if I'm grasping at straws or not. The explanation from blamp doesn't explain how untowny this is.

[BesharamSabi]

##vote celaph

leggooooo

14 minutes earlier(and the whole day 2was celaph is town)

I'm not cool with Maniac - what information will we gain from that flip?

celaph is likely town

That reaction of voting for someone you were screaming from dawn was town seems so off. Like why would you be excited to vote for you town read like that? Only a reaction of scum bussing makes sense since he was never connected with making celaph town?

Idk that vote seems so off tone from all his celaph comments.

Is this another one of my Sabi is grasping at straws theory?

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