M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

@eden can you explain bozo in a serious manner beyond this 65-70% bs?

He's a town-lean?

Not sure why this is so complicated for some people...

[damo666]

@eden can you explain bozo in a serious manner beyond this 65-70% bs?

He's a town-lean?

Not sure why this is so complicated for some people...

Well done JW.

[damo666]

Can we just please sink this Boat?

[BusinessLamp]

OK so here's the thing I have been sitting in for the last day or two ( I even hinted it):

The connection between pyxxy and boatman
[snip]

this is a fun theory that i think should be noted if TFB flips scum

[Jamiet99uk]

Chaqa what you did served literally no town purpose. Even if you think what I was doing was obvious, what you did increased the chance that mafia figured it out, for literally zero gain to town. This despite the fact that you have hardcore townread me the entire game. You did it entirely out of your own pride and conceit with no regard for how it helped the team.

Take a fucking break until you can put your silly stupid pride aside or sub the fuck out.

Increasing the chance from 100% lmao

You made a really terrible play. There is no reason to pretend it wasn't out there just for some vague "hehe we're so sneaky boiz" bullshit.

If you had just kept your crumbs close to the vest in a few days we would be golden, instead you played your hand to put out one inno scan.

You could have just said "I reread some old Bozo games and it made me town read him" and that would have explained his jump up the rankings. Instead you go "he's 70% town ask no more just trust me"

I'm not prideful about this. I'm feeling gaslit. You're blaming me because you can't admit you're wrong, and it's just like the Royal Bodyguard situation in Clank last year, which I STILL don't agree with you on, and probably never will.

I'm not gonna sub out lmao

What is this Bodyguard thing Chaqa keeps talking about?

[President Eden]

Can we just please sink this Boat?

deal

[BusinessLamp]

Just to illustrate my point about how your behavior was actually harmful Chaqa, keep this exchange in mind if Boat flips mafia. Look at how he reacted to what I was saying. He didn’t know what I meant. He probably had ideas about what I might be implying, but he tried to dig into it to get answers. Once he knew he straight up ghosted the thread.

If he’s mafia then you very very likely helped a mafia figure out who the Cop is.

if he's already asking about it though don't you think the curiosity would be enough to already prompt a nightkill

why am i exacerbating this discussion, this should probably just be dropped if both of you are able and can be picked up in the god thread after. plz just step away for an hour <3 =[

[BusinessLamp]

anyway as more people start to town-lean celaph i encourage everyone to look at the fact that that makes Maniac look rly rly sus.

[President Eden]

[quote="President Eden" post_id=292509 time=<a href="tel:1646236016">1646236016</a> user_id=115]
Just to illustrate my point about how your behavior was actually harmful Chaqa, keep this exchange in mind if Boat flips mafia. Look at how he reacted to what I was saying. He didn’t know what I meant. He probably had ideas about what I might be implying, but he tried to dig into it to get answers. Once he knew he straight up ghosted the thread.

If he’s mafia then you very very likely helped a mafia figure out who the Cop is.

if he's already asking about it though don't you think the curiosity would be enough to already prompt a nightkill

why am i exacerbating this discussion, this should probably just be dropped if both of you are able and can be picked up in the god thread after. plz just step away for an hour <3 =[
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potentially. or a roleblock if not a kill, for that matter. but the odds of it CERTAINLY increase when I’m forced to blatantly spell it out. that increase is CERTAINLY against town’s interest. there CERTAINLY is no pro-town reason to force me to blatantly spell it out.

yet he did, purely out of pride, not out of any genuine belief that his actions were helping town. hence my frustration.

[President Eden]

have no idea how I managed to break that quote but my bad

[worcej]

Save yesterday, decide to bus overnight.

That would be the most birdbrained play ever. Surely I hope y’all don’t think I’m that stupid

birdbrained play, or the result of town forcing action on mafia? the thing about playing mafia sided is that sometimes town just gets organized early and puts the full court press on and forces your hand.

IF you were mafia with celaph… IF… you had basically no choice whatsoever about your teammate going up. the instinctive reaction by mafia would be to save your teammate if you could and bus him if you couldn’t. unfortunately people love killing Kak no matter what I say, so there’s your chance to save your teammate. upon further review in team chat overnight you realize celaph is basically a dead man walking, what else can you do but bus?

you can act like if you were mafia you’d be some god tier big brain who would do something genius, and that’s great and you’re certainly smart enough for that to be true, but in all reality you’d be flying by the seat of your boat like everybody else that ever rolls scum.

I like this post. A lot.

[brainbomb]

Well, its gonna be this kind of game I guess.

Im not used to someone other than myself claiming unnecessarily under minimal or no pressure.

Anyway Eden the scan choice is pretty good and certainly helps [deleted due to lots of instructions to PR and ill just let them do their thing]

[worcej]

rather than spam the game with every posy pyxxy gave a +1 too here are three in particular that im curious what they liked from these posts and why they selectively picked these

I find pyxxy acknoledging my concerns but never actually explaining on the three posts I quoted any reasons why they gave those three a +1

It wasnt like I asked them to explain what they liked on every +1

I gave three examples

three

and they dodged even trying to answer and their return post was as slimy as can be.

@brain am I missing something about forum functionality here? Did I miss where you posted the three +1s that you want me to talk about?

Would you mind re-linking them for me?

Did brainbomb accidentally block me instead of Sabi? He responded to other posts but not this :'(

Can anybody hear me?

Please +1 this post if you can see it, so that I know I'm still alive...definitely not to farm karma...

TAKE MY KARMA!

[worcej]

Imagine pretending everyone and their mother didn’t know what he was saying. We don’t live in that fantasy world. His play was bad, I’m not gonna pretend ignorance when anyone with a brain saw it.

stop being anti-town

You first. Do you really think I was the only one who saw what you were saying? You shouldn’t have said it in the first place.

I really hope you’re baiting a kill or actually just the flipper because I’m shocked you would make this mistake.

Ya'll need to have a 'Prairie Drink Off' to figure out which one of you gets to take the other home and make them your bitch.

Too many pages and posts with you two lovers squabbling at each other.

[brainbomb]

scum pile (in no order)
pyxxy
rdrivera
demonrhk
maniac
tfb
sabi
ghug
celaph

help me make this list smaller

[brainbomb]

who has rdrivera as town and why

[President Eden]

Well, its gonna be this kind of game I guess.

Im not used to someone other than myself claiming unnecessarily under minimal or no pressure.

Anyway Eden the scan choice is pretty good and certainly helps [deleted due to lots of instructions to PR and ill just let them do their thing]

I don’t actually mind your suggestions. I might not follow them but now that I’m out in the open we might as well throw some good ideas around.

And while my claim wasn’t strictly necessary, Chaqa’s behavior made it pretty fucking clear what was going on, so at this point there’s little downside to just completely coming clean. I absolutely think it was right to find a way to get the info that I scanned bozo innocent out there, and I believe the manner I chose should have worked if my apparent teammates had played optimally. s/o to ghug again for doing so. I also think reasonable minds can differ as to whether my play was right.

[worcej]

I mean you had a read you couldn’t otherwise substantiate and it was so weird that like four separate people asked you about it.

who do you even think is mafia and why did EOD1 happen the way it did in light of that

Man it's day two, I'm not supposed to know that yet.

I've realized having missed EoD that it's harder to get a feel for the rhythm of it from the outside. My gut reading it said that celaph was town, and what was left was boat being saved. Boat hasn't been that scummy on his own, but I think celaph has been good, so I'm much more interested in boat if we're killing someone for scumread+info. If boat is scum, I think Chaqa and bozo look like savers. Sabi looks not great, but I'm discounting that because I think they're likely town. Maybe Lamp, maybe Brain, but the votes don't look as bad and the other play looks better.

Outside of that (i.e. if I'm wrong on celaph and/or boat or I'm looking for scum who didn't vote to save him), the people I find iffy are damo, Maniac, and Chaqa again. You were there but I've liked your day 2 more (in terms of towniness; I agreed with you more yesterday).

I don't feel particularly strongly about any one person, which is probably for the best as I'm liable to fall into bad patterns. The people I don't want to kill today are Sabi, bona, brain, lamp, celaph, RHK (though where the fuck is he?), you, maybe pyxxy though I don't totally buy the logic townclearing him.

As usual, we have an opposite opinion: I think celaph is the better info flip.

Celaph's result would help shine some light onto Maniac, Chaqa, Jamie, bozo, sabi, and TFB in my views of EOD1.

[damo666]

scum pile (in no order)
pyxxy
rdrivera
demonrhk
maniac
tfb
sabi
ghug
celaph

help me make this list smaller

I don't townread ghug but he's the least likely out of this lot.

[worcej]

It's OK bud, in a way I have a funny feeling this will work out better than you expected, given some time, especially if you are not actually a PR of any sort (which I think is probably most likely)

WOULD YOU LET ME EAT A ROLEBLOCK IN PEACE AND STOP BLOWING EVERYTHING UP

This is the most tryhard scum theater I've ever done man, I can't believe we let Sabi talk us into this.

Based.