M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BusinessLamp]

Hmm time to look at Jamiet post in iso:

He only had 2 semi game related post and one correcting someone. 27 of his other posts were spam or harassing Maniac.

well, that’s just not true, as I counted seven posts just on a half-assed skim that were directly engaging with the game, frankly all of which did so at a higher level than you.

lol me not actually checking jamie's iso to verify. i dont think this negates how i feel tho. hmm

[BusinessLamp]

If you pride yourself on living up to the standard of pursuing a preponderance of evidence it makes more sense to follow that evidence to its natural conclusion long term.

The short term a person can easily be shifted this way or that way to some other dreamland of thinking. A person doesnt forget their instincts or why they felt a certain way, unless that feeling was all just faked and postured.

Scum will claim to think a certain way and then later think a completely different way about something because the circumstances change for why they feel the way they did. Scum always fit their opinions to meet the situation because doing anything else does towns work for them.

i think i mostly get your point but i want to hope people will be constantly evaluating and changing their reads. i feel like i try to go into each day as a blank slate almost, which didnt really work out for me so maybe i shouldnt do that lol

[Maniac]

I'm going to say it. Macca subbing out is Town alignment indicative. Scum Macca would take the free pass for a couple of days. Town Macca knows they can't help town for a couple of days so wants someone to sub in that can be active.

[BusinessLamp]

my challenge to you is to take yourself out of all of your posts. focus on how you feel about certain posts and stop telling the world how you feel about OGI, and meta gaming, and issues where players are worthy of bad behavior policy kills and just simplify the way you play. Just talk about the content and stop with the martyrdom stuff

I ALWAYS DO MARTYRDOM. Go back to all six of my games and heck even among us when I'm crew or imposter, it's my go to response when I'm pressured. Its what I do. If I stop doing martyrdom people will scum read that too lol.

my request for you (and everyone) is similar to brain. please dont try to actively match your meta, just scumhunt to the best of your ability. if you're genuinely helping out and people scumread you because of past behavior, that's on them and they deserve to lose if they're wrong imo.

so can you plz commit to not worrying about your meta this game? <3

[celaph]

Snowy was bad, now good. Initial focus on Kak was artificial, but his current posting style around reminds me of the time we miskilled him because he didn't explain his scumread on ghug well. He's calling out worthwhile points, but giving no thought to why they are worth while.

Sabi has transitioned from deir defeatist attitude into just asking what others think of specific people. This both helps town a more and is also far more likely to be faked. Might switch if they turn the questions into something useful, but otherwise I fear scum here.

PE, BB, and ghug are all town on the day. No change to the scum on Blamp.

I've liked the arguments put forth by BB regarding TFB. To add my 2 cents, the following is a question you ask not because you particularly care about the answer, but rather because you think of it as the type of question that town should ask.

Continuing with the catch up, ignoring the effects of snowy trolling you in your view, how has your read of Sabi evolved and why given their posts after you called them out?

[BusinessLamp]

in light of the shocking revelation of the insidious “Mafia Council” and its dastardly infiltration of this fair town I hereby move to create a “Town Council” to counteract its creeping influence.

note that this should not be confused with the Mafia Kouncil of which I am a member and which is wholly good and righteous.

anyway my first nominees are ghug and brainbomb

unoriginal. cheap. knockoff. blasphemous

in seriousness though this post does read as inauthentic to me though. potentially buddying to two influential town

[BusinessLamp]

Oh shit this started

I’m kind of a wreck rn because I lost both my phone and keys while out last night and am now waking up in a friend’s apartment but let’s try and catch up bc I have nothing better to do. On my friend’s phone rn lol rip

Hmmm kinda weird to log into webdip of all things on your friends phone.

Fake story or not, hopefully you had fun last night.

I like this callout froom Sabi

what do you like about it

[BusinessLamp]

I feel obligated to respond to this and curry good favor :3 it's a shame that I checked in right after Demon mentioned low posters...

I'm focused on observing what D1 looks like and getting a feel for all you characters. Imo that makes me equally likely to be town or scum, because none of you (including Sabi) know anything about how I play mafia (besides having normie average player tells, probably).

Is Businesslamp's phone story....a thing? I.e. have scum made up fairly elaborate lies about not being able to post in the past?

this thought is more likely for scum to have. town don't (shouldn't) think about their PR, and i don't think you're an especially image conscious person from what i know, so this is SAI

disagree with this point. but i am a very image conscious person lol

[BusinessLamp]

I do think this haranguing on blamp's story is weird

lmfao right. how dare i... use my friend's phone? what lol

anyway i actually find eden's post on demon pretty convincing and seems like the strongest case thus far. my bias is that it would make me really happy if my streak of quasi-random day 1 votes continue to happen to land on mafia

[BusinessLamp]

I still have sus on bozo, he rarely makes jokes and his whole comments so far have not been on brand. Unfortunately no one else shares these thoughts so I'm going to default to my other scumlean

##VOTE businesslamp

But I am glad you linked this post though snowy. Why doesn't town!Sabi try pushing bozo here if they scum read him instead of sheeping ghug? It's D1 and the biggest wagon is on 3.

this point is valid

[BesharamSabi]

But I am making note about Maniac posting wordle as a way to be hard to read in iso.

It's subtle and kinda smart.

Do you actually believe this is a scum-motivated tactic? How does Maniac posting wordle in the sign up thread affect this?

He posted it both in the game thread and sign up.

If you post non webdip emojis, it fills up the whole screen with one emoji each. Makes it difficult to read on iso on the bot.

[BesharamSabi]

Day one wild scumteam guess

Snowy Kak Bozo demonRHK

Why do you believe they are scum together?

[BusinessLamp]

Wordle 253 2/6

YBGYB
GGGGG

(No emojis so easier iso of me)

this feels a tinge desperate for cred. could be taken in combo with repeated posts referencing "i am contributing and scumhunting". not sure if it's alignment-indicative

[BesharamSabi]

Clucking slowly intensifies around the barn

Pyxxy when are you going to grace us with your reads so far?

[BusinessLamp]

But I am making note about Maniac posting wordle as a way to be hard to read in iso.

It's subtle and kinda smart.

Do you actually believe this is a scum-motivated tactic? How does Maniac posting wordle in the sign up thread affect this?

He posted it both in the game thread and sign up.

If you post non webdip emojis, it fills up the whole screen with one emoji each. Makes it difficult to read on iso on the bot.

right, my quesiton is about you saying it's subtle and smart. that implies you think it's a scum tactic. do you?

i bring up the sign up thread because that seems to me to be a counter-point to it being a scum tactic

[BesharamSabi]

BB last played in M71. You were also there for half a day and were also active in the GT for that game. I find it weird that you would have forgotten, but don't see why you would make this post as either alignment if you remembered.

Eden wouldn't forget stuff like that esp because brainbomb rant about drawing and wincons made him have to make a decision. Hmmm eden seems off.

Which alignment do you seem him lying as though? Because I don't see why scum Eden would make such an obvious lie. At best he gets some weak town credit for being too weird to be scum.

Idk but it just doesn't seem eden like to forget this detail.

[BusinessLamp]

my reads after first skim are that I stan Eden

Why do you stan Eden? I agree with Sabi's earlier comments that it's incredibly bizarre how a full half of your posts have been focused on dem and yet your primary read take away is from about Eden.

i stanned eden because of how they engaged with sabi at the time. pressuring sabi early is more likely to be revealing bc they are more emotive and reactive. also the "i didnt check my role" stuff just bothers me on a game rules level

[BesharamSabi]

Do you actually believe this is a scum-motivated tactic? How does Maniac posting wordle in the sign up thread affect this?

He posted it both in the game thread and sign up.

If you post non webdip emojis, it fills up the whole screen with one emoji each. Makes it difficult to read on iso on the bot.

right, my quesiton is about you saying it's subtle and smart. that implies you think it's a scum tactic. do you?

i bring up the sign up thread because that seems to me to be a counter-point to it being a scum tactic

I think it's a tactic for someone that is avoiding trying to be iso. I think either Flum or brainbomb used to post lyrics or a movie script to make abutting trying to iso them harder.

It feels less alignment dependent if I think about it now. (new day, fresh mind)

[BusinessLamp]

I'm going to say it. Macca subbing out is Town alignment indicative. Scum Macca would take the free pass for a couple of days. Town Macca knows they can't help town for a couple of days so wants someone to sub in that can be active.

substantial imo

[DemonRHK]

I'm going to say it. Macca subbing out is Town alignment indicative. Scum Macca would take the free pass for a couple of days. Town Macca knows they can't help town for a couple of days so wants someone to sub in that can be active.

substantial imo

I don't see it. Most everyone is hiving the slot a pass. It's a lazy point that if anything makes Maniac sus as hell if worc flips red.