MAFIA XXXVIII: INFINITY WAR

[brainbomb]

Jamie posturing like he has a gun and wants to know why id change my behavior implied he knows im.town and he wanted to test waters to see if I was a possible PR. He used a pregame promise to push a scum.agenda to potentially get info out of me about my role

[rdrivera2005]

I catch up reading and confess I don't have much to say, I feel like the mechanics are far more important then the scum hunt.

I have done a quick re-readead of the EOD and the scummiest vote for me is Bozo. After all we discussed about the SK and the need of two votes lead to ensure the lynch can't see a reason for a town to risk a tie the way he did.

I also don't think scum will try to stole the Soul Stone. Town don't have an investigative role, only a weak tracker and scum can't win against a SK with the Soul stone so why take this risk? They could try it if their odds to win in the regular way is low, but can't see them taking this risk now.

Do you think it is better to lynch a town than to risk a tie?

How do you know any of the wagons are town?

I think a lynch is usually better then a no-lynch.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ive read snowy ISO and hes my top townread.

snowy801
Day-1 07:27
page 46 my dear Jamie, if I went around asking myself why I do all the things I do then I'd never get anything done

Brilliant. Im.liking this snowy behavior alot this game. Hes across the board looking energetic, thought provoking and pure in tone

Tell me what is "brilliant" about that post?

[Squigs44]

I'm not being relentless. Despite my efforts, nobody cared for my case except a few nincompoops who waited until 20 minutes before EOD to tell me that they didn't understand it.

Actually I told you your case was reachy a short time after you posted it and someone (will look back and figure this out) also commented that they agreed with me.

[Squigs44]

Bo's case on Yav seems a little reachy. Although most cases D1 are reachy. His just seems overly complicated. Like he sat down and thought, how can I spin this one interaction into a scum read? Maybe I'm just too dense to follow all of his logic.

Page 39 I posted this well ahead of EoD

[worcej]

A lot of analysis has obviously been happening, but I think it's important to note that the Vig is going to have a strong presence in D2 because they will have the Mind Stone and it should be off CD, unless there is something written somewhere not in the main rules post in this thread about that...

Pretty much, Vig is going to be MVP on D2 and N2 - we will be able to establish the identities of two people for sure before any mafia influence on N2.

[brainbomb]

A lot of analysis has obviously been happening, but I think it's important to note that the Vig is going to have a strong presence in D2 because they will have the Mind Stone and it should be off CD, unless there is something written somewhere not in the main rules post in this thread about that...

Pretty much, Vig is going to be MVP on D2 and N2 - we will be able to establish the identities of two people for sure before any mafia influence on N2.

Scum will be aiming for vig. So please try to find them and save them. Or at least bait the roleblock in a vain effort to save them

[Squigs44]

Townreads:
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bo_sox - I agree with Squigs here, like he sat down and thought how he can create a scumread from that one interaction. But his style came towny, don't really know, maybe I should carry him to my scumlist.

Interestingly enough, the other person I was thinking of is Yav. Who gives Bo a super hedgy townread.

[ghug]

Bozo is bad.

Can you elaborate on this?

You're always bad. Usually you seem like you're trying to be good though.

[RagingIke297]

GM Note:

Since the bot is messed up on the timeline, just thought I should let you all know that currently night will end in 2 hours 20 minutes

[worcej]

A lot of analysis has obviously been happening, but I think it's important to note that the Vig is going to have a strong presence in D2 because they will have the Mind Stone and it should be off CD, unless there is something written somewhere not in the main rules post in this thread about that...

Pretty much, Vig is going to be MVP on D2 and N2 - we will be able to establish the identities of two people for sure before any mafia influence on N2.

Scum will be aiming for vig. So please try to find them and save them. Or at least bait the roleblock in a vain effort to save them

I am fairly positive the RB is coming to me since I am outed. I would also agree that I am most likely not the NK since they can save it for a later date and right now the doctor's effectiveness is minor.

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh my god, are you that fucking stupid? I didn't push snowy; I voted for him to survive. Darg was behind by one and I couldn't affect that. Chippe had just put snowy within one vote of me with 30 seconds to go in the day. I tied the vote on purpose by voting for snowy. Had I known that darg would have actually had the lead if I had stayed put there, obviously I wouldn't have moved.

I just townread snowy a few pages back. I townread darg too.

So, Bo_Sox, just to be clear, you thought Snowy was town, and you were willing to lynch him to save yourself, yes?

Also, tell us what you bought at the store.

[Squigs44]

Also, tell us what you bought at the store.

I want to know how your mind works that you think this has relevance to the game.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also, tell us what you bought at the store.

I want to know how your mind works that you think this has relevance to the game.

It has about as much relevance as Bo_Sox devoting a whole paragraph to telling us he's hungry and is going to the store. I.e., not very much.

[worcej]

I want to know how your mind works that you think this has relevance to the game.

It does help indicate what type of person he is.

[flash2015]

Also, tell us what you bought at the store.

I want to know how your mind works that you think this has relevance to the game.

It has about as much relevance as Bo_Sox devoting a whole paragraph to telling us he's hungry and is going to the store. I.e., not very much.

I am getting hungry too...it looks like I am out of my favourite ice cream!

[bozotheclown]

When dargorygel showed up 4 minutes before EOD, he was leading the vote 7-4-4, and he claimed VT. This could have been a ploy to look town, but with a 3 vote lead, I thought it would be more likely for scum to make a fake claim at that point, unless one of the other top wagons was also scum. Since I considered it most likely that dargorygel was town, I switched my vote to bo_sox, who I thought was a scum possibility, and more likely to be scum than snowy, the other top wagon.

Here are some questionable things I noticed about D1 EOD:

When dargorygel was up by 2 votes, rdrivera said he would vote for bo_sox if not for the SK’s ability to add a vote. I then voted for bo_sox, and dargorygel voted for bo_sox, which resulted in bo_sox and dargorygel being tied at 6. rdrivera was still on dargorygel, so he could have put bo_sox up by two votes by switching from dargorygel to bo_sox. He failed to do this, despite just saying that the only reason he was not voting for bo_sox was because he wanted to keep the top wagon leading by two.

bo_sox stated he was leading in the vote even though he was tied with dargorygel, and there was no point where bo_sox was ahead in the vote count. xorxes later made a statement that he townread bo_sox for making a town statement when he thought he was the lynch, despite the fact that bo_sox was never leading the vote.

xorxes switched his vote from dargorygel to bo_sox after the phase ended, and after bo_sox’s statement that xorxes later said he townread him for.

After EOD, rdrivera preemptively deflects his failure to vote for bo_sox by saying he highly suspects the late movers.

xorxes makes a statement that rdrivera is the most likely SK candidate based on him being on the dargorygel wagon and the time when he joined the wagon, despite it being very unlikely the SK would be this obvious, especially if rdrivera was the SK.

These are some notable mistake coming from high level players like rdrivera, bo_sox, and xorxes. Although it is possible they were just real mistakes, the interaction that occurs between these three around these mistakes makes me consider all three suspect.

[Squigs44]

Iso'd Y2k as promised. He started the game going for pretty easy scumreading stuff like voting lurkers and attacking Jamie. His Fox push was a little better. Got the Bo wagon from 3 to 4 which is when it really took off. If Bo is scum, Y2k is likely town. If snowy or darg are scum and Bo is town, Y2k has a slight scumread for me. Since we don't know that info yet though, slight town on Y2k.

[DoubtingThomas]

this is too many posts to catch up lmfao..

[Foxcastle]

this is too many posts to catch up lmfao..

Ain't that the fucking truth.