MAFIA XXXVIII: INFINITY WAR

[brainbomb]

Didn't we say chip was town about 50 pages ago?

Im catching up believe it or not. Ive missed like 20 pages of stuff yesterday

[Squigs44]

Didn't we say chip was town about 50 pages ago?

Brain changes his mind on people's alignments like 20 times during the game. I think he enjoys arguing with himself about this kind of stuff.

[brainbomb]

Flash ISO is depressing.
The type I usually think is scum but flips town

flash2015
Day-1 08:32
page 44 It is a gut feel but I believe at least one of these three is either scum or SK:

Squigs44,dargorygel,damo666

There is no evidence at all that I am not town...and there is definitely a suggestion that SK/scum could get lucky if they take me out.

The question is which one?
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flash2015
Day-1 07:56
page 45 ##VOTE darg

Flash finally moves off voting me, and decides darg is scum. He also lists squiggs and damo as potential scum.

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flash2015
Day-1 03:17
page 53
↑brainbomb: "VIG REQUEST

shoot ghug, ezio, HR, Jamie

Those are all scum hits"
Hey! Don't solve it too early. That would be no fun

I take it this is sarcasm?

flash2015
Day-1 03:06
page 53
↑brainbomb: "I think Ezio has more scum notches against him than you. Ezio hasnt tried to be cooperative with town. Hes just tried ve..."
He certainly only appears to be interacting at a very superficial level. I am not sure whether that is scum indicative or not (i.e. he just isn't paying close attention

Why wasnt ezio paying close attention exactly?
(Is this thought by flash TMI?)

[damo666]

There are an awful lot of pages. It's hard to keep up.

[brainbomb]

Didn't we say chip was town about 50 pages ago?

Brain changes his mind on people's alignments like 20 times during the game. I think he enjoys arguing with himself about this kind of stuff.

You can hate the process all you want. Its a hell of a lot better to keep an ever changing open mind thats backed by reasons than to just death tunnel

[yavuzovic]

yavuzovic
Night-1 30:17
page 68 First of all, I want to state that Brain isn't confirmed. I don't know what to do here. SK knows who Gamora is but since we have only Brain's claim, we can't lynch him. Maybe a Vig shot on BB could be useful but also dangerous. That stone may go to bad hands.

Why are you advocating overloading the vig with tons and tons of stones exactly?

Plus, Jamie asked me about Snowy yesterday and I forgot it , I'll write something about Snowy soon. Sorry about that.

Why are you.apologizing to Jamie?

Related to the tie, SK didn't have much information about stones - I don't think SK knows more than us, do they?

You seem to think the sk might know more than a normal person.

And I believe SK used the vote power on heavy wagons but they were actually away from discussion. What SK should do now is hiding themselves. I believe SK was on the light wagons:
Jamie: ND(!) and brainbomb(!) ; Foxcastle: DoubtingThomas(!) ;
Vecna: damo666(!)

I may be wrong here but in this theory, sk pool is:
ND, brain, DT, and damo

Uhm, how am I EVER the sk?

Besides that, SK might try lynching people to get stones. I think that would be a good strategy for SK too. They were on a lynch-candidate-wagon (as power stone was used on darg wagon, I assume they were on darg wagon) and tried to lynch the target to get their stone if they had.

Theres just so few things in this post that make any sense.
Why do you feel you should be phrasing this post as positive ideas for sk. It looks like yer advising sk how to play. Why would town want to do this? Why do you assume sk was on darg and wanted a stone from him?

Were you townreading darg before or after this post? This implies you think sk wanted a stone from darg.

Also you described a (4) as a light wagon.
Jamie has me, fixcastle, DT and ND on him. How is that a light wagon?

1) I don't, vigilante can give stones to the players they trust. This is a dangerous movement, but I believe vig isn't that dumb.

2) I forgot sharing my snowy post yesterday, why should I not?

3) If I think, I would not ask how. Also how can SK know more than us, since they haven't learned anything like us. This is confusing. I didn't understand what you mean. Am I SK?

4) Well, you aren't. But as someone said before, you might be scum as well?

5) Advising SK? Do you mean if I am scum? I tried to solve what he would do but apologize if I helped him about anything.

6) I assumed SK was on Darg because if I were SK I would try to lynch who I vote because he needs to get stones and he takes deads' stones by lynching them.

7) I slightly scumread Dargorygel, he was a high wagon and he can't use the powerstone on himself, this eliminates SK possibility. However as many voters jumped on others, I can say he was bussed before and his scummates left him near to EoD.

8) I looked at Peterbot, I don't know, sorry. It says Jamie had only you and ND on him.

[brainbomb]

Scum
Doesnt
Start
With
SOUL
STONE

Period

[brainbomb]

There is no scenario in human existence where I can be scum or sk.
Get
It
Thru
Your
Head

Items that start out of play:
1 Soul Stone: Becomes active in the possession of the Serial Killer, they can use it to perform a traditional night kill if they choose. If Serial Killer loses the stone it still works for Mafia or Town!! Item is attached to a certain VT at the beginning of the game, they cannot give it away. The serial killer learns which player is said VT at the beginning of D2.

[damo666]

What, if anything, can be made of Xorxes unsuccessful late switch from darg to bo? Makes him highly unlikely to be SK imo.

[damo666]

So SK pool Flash/ghug/Fox/rdr

(oh! and Vecna!)

[yavuzovic]

There is no scenario in human existence where I can be scum or sk.
Get
It
Thru
Your
Head

Items that start out of play:
1 Soul Stone: Becomes active in the possession of the Serial Killer, they can use it to perform a traditional night kill if they choose. If Serial Killer loses the stone it still works for Mafia or Town!! Item is attached to a certain VT at the beginning of the game, they cannot give it away. The serial killer learns which player is said VT at the beginning of D2.

I don't say you're scum
I don't say you're sk as well
I don't say I don't believe you are town
I say you are not confirmed but I am not going to vote you unless somebody ccs better than you.

[flash2015]

@Flash, after vig shot ezio you said no one should have any faith in my reads. Why does ezio flipping town nullify all my reads?

I didn't say no-one should have confidence in your reads. I said I have less confidence in your reads. It does suggest what you are seeing as scum-indicative may not be right (as I have said before I am skeptical of over-confidence).

[Squigs44]

Super quick reads:

BismarckAlive - lurking worse than last game. Null.
Bo - didn't like his D1 play. Was calm at EoD, which is more townie, but easily faked. Slight scum.
bozo - real quiet. Even quieter than when he was SK last game. Slight scum.
brainbomb - Gamora unless he is trolling us
ChippeRock - town
damo666 - hasnt really caught my eye on anything. Null
Darg - not sure exactly why the push on darg. EoD looked more townie. Slight town
DoubtingThomas - very aggressive and out in the open this game. Likely town.
flash2015 - defensive, hedgy, less scumhunting than last game. Slight scum
Foxcastle - played aggressive early. Haven't noticed much since his Worcej interaction. Slight town
Ghug - I'm afraid of him. Always hard to get a read on. I feel like he hasn't been leading the town as much as I remember either. Null/scum
HR - super bad lurk. Possible scum playing the late game.
Jamiet99uk - slight town. He is trying to contibute.
ND - slight town. His day 1 pessimism seems more like a character trait than scummy.
rdrivera2005 - town. Making more valid observations than last game.
snowy801 - slight town based on tone and EoD.
Squigs44 - town
Vecna - much more vocal than last game. Likely town
worcej - doc or lying
xorxes - I don't have the meta on him like you all do. His posts are pretty straightforward. Null
y2kjbk - need to reread, so null for now
Yavuzovic - some weird posts, but could just be Yav. Very slight scum.

[brainbomb]

So after rereads I think

Chipee is town
Vecna town

Ive read snowy ISO and hes my top townread.

snowy801
Day-1 07:27
page 46 my dear Jamie, if I went around asking myself why I do all the things I do then I'd never get anything done

Brilliant. Im.liking this snowy behavior alot this game. Hes across the board looking energetic, thought provoking and pure in tone

[brainbomb]

So SK pool Flash/ghug/Fox/rdr

(oh! and Vecna!)

Why is squiggs not on sk list?

[flash2015]

Flash ISO is depressing.
The type I usually think is scum but flips town

flash2015
Day-1 08:32
page 44 It is a gut feel but I believe at least one of these three is either scum or SK:

Squigs44,dargorygel,damo666

There is no evidence at all that I am not town...and there is definitely a suggestion that SK/scum could get lucky if they take me out.

The question is which one?
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flash2015
Day-1 07:56
page 45 ##VOTE darg

Flash finally moves off voting me, and decides darg is scum. He also lists squiggs and damo as potential scum.

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flash2015
Day-1 03:17
page 53
↑brainbomb: "VIG REQUEST

shoot ghug, ezio, HR, Jamie

Those are all scum hits"
Hey! Don't solve it too early. That would be no fun

I take it this is sarcasm?

flash2015
Day-1 03:06
page 53
↑brainbomb: "I think Ezio has more scum notches against him than you. Ezio hasnt tried to be cooperative with town. Hes just tried ve..."
He certainly only appears to be interacting at a very superficial level. I am not sure whether that is scum indicative or not (i.e. he just isn't paying close attention

Why wasnt ezio paying close attention exactly?
(Is this thought by flash TMI?)

I am not sure what problem you have with this. I was trying to understand what you were seeing in him which was scummy. I personally just saw laziness...but you have been seeing something else because you had played with him before.

And yes, my comment was sarcasm. I was hoping your reads were right.

[brainbomb]

Ill tell you a secret about me. Im worthless until Day 3. Gimme vote counts and material to analyze and ill find the entire enemy team. Until then im flailing around with my dick in my hand beggin for attention.

I feel ive missed a fair amount of content here and ive lost my ability to influence public opinion. Ive been slammed by a dead ezio as worthless and not worth listening too.

[damo666]

brain - why would squiggs be on SK list? His vote was on bo 38 minutes out. Why would he then power vote darg?

[damo666]

and brain it's not a secret

[Vecna]

Damo, care to talk about why you think im SK so badly? Because its a bit odd. And im just gonna talk that idea out of your head.

Come, come, talk to me.