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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#5501 Post by damo666 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:21 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:02 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:51 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:43 pm


Why?
Why do you want to kill Jamie?
He's established that he likes to bus aggressively, his emotional responses aren't what I expect from him, and I townread most others.
I very much doubt you'll get a Jamie kill today. Who else do you not townread?

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#5502 Post by Chaqa » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:23 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:16 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:08 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:02 pm


He's established that he likes to bus aggressively, his emotional responses aren't what I expect from him, and I townread most others.
Do you have some games where Jamie bussed? I remember him getting pissy with me for bussing our teammate once
The game where you went 11 v 1. The game where brainbomb and Brian tried to save me after the whole team bussed me all day and we were all caught early, which seems to be the common outcome.
He does vote for teammates a lot, especially the obvious or absent ones. Would fit with his Fox vote on day 1.

Let me take another look at him, maybe I shouldn’t be clearing him so much.

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#5503 Post by ghug » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:35 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:21 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:02 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:51 pm


Why do you want to kill Jamie?
He's established that he likes to bus aggressively, his emotional responses aren't what I expect from him, and I townread most others.
I very much doubt you'll get a Jamie kill today. Who else do you not townread?
It's amazing that people will give Chaqa shit for thinking like this and then give me shit for not thinking like this. Jamie was a wagon yesterday. One of his biggest pushers was nightkilled. He should absolutely be in the discussion today.

Other possibilities: HR. Donny. Gold. Gut is wavering on rd but I think he still belongs in this group.

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#5504 Post by Chaqa » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:40 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:35 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:21 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:02 pm


He's established that he likes to bus aggressively, his emotional responses aren't what I expect from him, and I townread most others.
I very much doubt you'll get a Jamie kill today. Who else do you not townread?
It's amazing that people will give Chaqa shit for thinking like this and then give me shit for not thinking like this. Jamie was a wagon yesterday. One of his biggest pushers was nightkilled. He should absolutely be in the discussion today.

Other possibilities: HR. Donny. Gold. Gut is wavering on rd but I think he still belongs in this group.
I agree with your point but Kgray's dying words were literally to kill you lol

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#5505 Post by Chaqa » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:41 pm

##Vote Donny

Best case he's scum

Worst case he's out of the endgame

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#5506 Post by ghug » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:43 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:40 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:35 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:21 pm


I very much doubt you'll get a Jamie kill today. Who else do you not townread?
It's amazing that people will give Chaqa shit for thinking like this and then give me shit for not thinking like this. Jamie was a wagon yesterday. One of his biggest pushers was nightkilled. He should absolutely be in the discussion today.

Other possibilities: HR. Donny. Gold. Gut is wavering on rd but I think he still belongs in this group.
I agree with your point but Kgray's dying words were literally to kill you lol
That's a joke that we make at each other regardless of reads. She did inexplicably scumread me (and guess what, I'm in the discussion today too), but she also expressed interest in getting Jamie over me last night.

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#5507 Post by Chaqa » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:50 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:43 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:40 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:35 pm


It's amazing that people will give Chaqa shit for thinking like this and then give me shit for not thinking like this. Jamie was a wagon yesterday. One of his biggest pushers was nightkilled. He should absolutely be in the discussion today.

Other possibilities: HR. Donny. Gold. Gut is wavering on rd but I think he still belongs in this group.
I agree with your point but Kgray's dying words were literally to kill you lol
That's a joke that we make at each other regardless of reads. She did inexplicably scumread me (and guess what, I'm in the discussion today too), but she also expressed interest in getting Jamie over me last night.
@Jamie: is this a joke?

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#5508 Post by damo666 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:51 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:35 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:21 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:02 pm


He's established that he likes to bus aggressively, his emotional responses aren't what I expect from him, and I townread most others.
I very much doubt you'll get a Jamie kill today. Who else do you not townread?
It's amazing that people will give Chaqa shit for thinking like this and then give me shit for not thinking like this. Jamie was a wagon yesterday. One of his biggest pushers was nightkilled. He should absolutely be in the discussion today.

Other possibilities: HR. Donny. Gold. Gut is wavering on rd but I think he still belongs in this group.
Join me on HR then.

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#5509 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:25 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:08 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:02 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:51 pm


Why do you want to kill Jamie?
He's established that he likes to bus aggressively, his emotional responses aren't what I expect from him, and I townread most others.
Do you have some games where Jamie bussed? I remember him getting pissy with me for bussing our teammate once
I remember a game where he and Xorxes bussed each other pretty hard and this gave Xorces the win at kilo after Jamie flipped, but I don´t remember Jamiet bussing agressively many teammates.

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#5510 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:28 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:35 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:21 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:02 pm


He's established that he likes to bus aggressively, his emotional responses aren't what I expect from him, and I townread most others.
I very much doubt you'll get a Jamie kill today. Who else do you not townread?
It's amazing that people will give Chaqa shit for thinking like this and then give me shit for not thinking like this. Jamie was a wagon yesterday. One of his biggest pushers was nightkilled. He should absolutely be in the discussion today.

Other possibilities: HR. Donny. Gold. Gut is wavering on rd but I think he still belongs in this group.
Chaqa´s logic have been atrocious more then once, but I am giving him a pass because of the RB thing. Maybe I am wrong and he and Vecna are playing one with us, but I don´t want to enter this rabbit hole yet.

I need to do a re-read on Jamiet as the initial townread is fading this last turns.

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#5511 Post by damo666 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:34 pm

I think Chaqa has a temporary pass because of the RB claim BUT it is the kind of ploy he's fond of I can see durga Vecna and celaph agreeing to it.

If he's still around D8 he should come under scrutiny.

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#5512 Post by Chaqa » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:45 pm

The roleblock play isn't the kind of play I would agree to.

Come on Damo, you've been scum with me several times, you yourself have heard my very strong opinions on how to use the roleblock.

I don't think ghug or HR are good wagons today. I'm possibly more open to Jamie, but I'm unsure.

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#5513 Post by Chaqa » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:47 pm

If ghug is mafia I will literally stop playing for six months.

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#5514 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:00 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:08 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:02 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:51 pm

Why do you want to kill Jamie?
He's established that he likes to bus aggressively, his emotional responses aren't what I expect from him, and I townread most others.
Do you have some games where Jamie bussed? I remember him getting pissy with me for bussing our teammate once
No no, Ghug is correct on this point. I quite often bus when I'm scum. Sometimes I don't, but I quite often do.

I'm not scum this time, though. Ghug is just prejudiced against me. I can't think of a game in the last 3 years where Ghug didn't scumread me, except when I was the GM, and sometimes even then.
Potato, potato; potato.

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#5515 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:05 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:50 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:43 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:40 pm

I agree with your point but Kgray's dying words were literally to kill you lol
That's a joke that we make at each other regardless of reads. She did inexplicably scumread me (and guess what, I'm in the discussion today too), but she also expressed interest in getting Jamie over me last night.
@Jamie: is this a joke?
It's a half-right, half-wrong, deliberate misrepresentation. Kgray did scumread me last night, although her main argument was based on my lack of anger in response to her voting me during D4, which is a pretty weak argument. She suggested I should be one of the wagons today. But the claim that Kgray said I should be a wagon "over Ghug", who she also scumread, is not something I can see any evidence of on a re-read of N5. So Ghug is adding an additional emphasis which protects him and pushes me. Twisting the facts, as he usually does when he's trying to get me killed.
Potato, potato; potato.

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#5516 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:06 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:47 pm
If ghug is mafia I will literally stop playing for six months.
If Ghug is town, I will eat a pizza.
Potato, potato; potato.

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#5517 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:07 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:45 pm
The roleblock play isn't the kind of play I would agree to.

Come on Damo, you've been scum with me several times, you yourself have heard my very strong opinions on how to use the roleblock.
Your opinion, as I recall it, is generally in favour of roleblocking the NK target, is that right?
Potato, potato; potato.

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#5518 Post by Chaqa » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:20 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:07 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:45 pm
The roleblock play isn't the kind of play I would agree to.

Come on Damo, you've been scum with me several times, you yourself have heard my very strong opinions on how to use the roleblock.
Your opinion, as I recall it, is generally in favour of roleblocking the NK target, is that right?
:x

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#5519 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:21 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:20 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:07 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:45 pm
The roleblock play isn't the kind of play I would agree to.

Come on Damo, you've been scum with me several times, you yourself have heard my very strong opinions on how to use the roleblock.
Your opinion, as I recall it, is generally in favour of roleblocking the NK target, is that right?
:x
I assume I am wrong.

Personally my strategy is usually to Roleblock someone like Brainbomb or Ghug so that when they claim the Roleblock everyone thinks "hmmm, that's fishy, who would want to roleblock that guy?"
Potato, potato; potato.

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#5520 Post by Chaqa » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:30 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:21 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:20 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:07 pm


Your opinion, as I recall it, is generally in favour of roleblocking the NK target, is that right?
:x
I assume I am wrong.

Personally my strategy is usually to Roleblock someone like Brainbomb or Ghug so that when they claim the Roleblock everyone thinks "hmmm, that's fishy, who would want to roleblock that guy?"
I'm pretty sure my disdain for roleblocking the kill target when there are multiple PRs alive is almost a meme by now, and it definitely came up earlier in the game.

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