M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

I'll be voting for Rivera tomorrow and nothing will make me change that vote.

[Chaqa]

I'll be voting for Rivera tomorrow and nothing will make me change that vote.

What???

[kgray]

I'll be voting for Rivera tomorrow and nothing will make me change that vote.

What???

He's a spineless filthy liar and he can't be trusted.

[Chaqa]

I just hope I get shot tonight.

Not because I don't care, but because I'm bored.

[damo666]

I'll be voting for Rivera tomorrow and nothing will make me change that vote.

Nothing?

[kgray]

I'll be voting for Rivera tomorrow and nothing will make me change that vote.

Nothing?

Nothing. Unless I get NK'd and can't vote.

[Chaqa]

Kgray is being a real ligma

[TheFlyingBoat]

I'll be voting for Rivera tomorrow and nothing will make me change that vote.

Nothing?

Nothing. Unless I get NK'd and can't vote.

Not even if he gets NKed?

[kgray]

Nothing?

Nothing. Unless I get NK'd and can't vote.

Not even if he gets NKed?

If Rivera doesn't get NK'd tonight I'm conf!town.

[goldfinger0303]

If kgray gets NK'd TFB is conf!scum

[ghug]

If ghug gets NKed tonight ghug is conftown.

[Chaqa]

Regardless of who dies, Bona is town

[TheFlyingBoat]

Regardless of who dies, Bona is town

I see literally no reason for you to be that confident unless you're going full meta that Bona only tunnels and loses his mind this hard if he's town, which maybe, but seems a bit much in the confidence department

[Hellenic Riot]

Regardless of who dies, Bona is town

I see literally no reason for you to be that confident unless you're going full meta that Bona only tunnels and loses his mind this hard if he's town, which maybe, but seems a bit much in the confidence department

It's been a long time since I played with Bona, but if that is his town meta that's also the most easily replicable play to do as Mafia regardless that I'd still have zero faith in it.

[goldfinger0303]

Yeah Chaqa, since we have nothing else to do, care to elaborate on that a bit? I'm scumreading bona as well

[BusinessLamp]

This is roughly where I rank everyone in likelihood from town to scum:

Chaqa
ghug
Bonatogether
TheFlyingBoat
Jamiet99uk
BobMcBob
rdrivera2005
DemonRHK
Donny Dude
goldfinger0303
kgray
damo666
BusinessLamp
Maniac
Vecna
Hellenic Riot

It's not exact, but seems about right.

i lowkey don't understand how you can see me as a scum possibility after Durga's flip. sure my voting pattern might be shit, but there's just no way this is what a me/Durga scum team looks like, lmao. I guess you all don't know us well enough but she was so excited for me to be playing this, and if we're on the same team and are scum together she doesn't just bow out like that. And I wouldn't just let her die, either. The entire last night phase would've been full of hare-brained schemes being planned in the scum chat and throwing random shit at the wall to see what sticks. she would've had more fight. counter-argument to this would be it allows me to claim this, but in no world would i choose this path, this is a game for fun. if my closest friend is on my team i'm not going to let her die for a chance at cred. lol.

not to mention that celaph was buddying me the whole time (and it worked... whoops). i just don't see how their interactions w/r/t me lend themselves to me being seen as on a team with them at all.

Yes, agreed. I also don’t understand how I’m not near the top of everyone’s towncore now that celaph and Durga flipped scum and I pushed both of them.

Ur at top of mine. (@mafia this is a lie, I suspect her. don’t kill)

[Chaqa]

Yeah Chaqa, since we have nothing else to do, care to elaborate on that a bit? I'm scumreading bona as well

He gets scumread and voted out for these exact same "reasons" almost every game.

M71: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msg?g=7 ... &var=death

M69: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msg?g=6 ... &var=death

M66: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msg?g=6 ... &var=death

M1016: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msg?g=1 ... &var=death

M63: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msg?g=6 ... &var=death

I'd have to go back and find people's arguments for voting him, but I know of the ones I was in, it's like a gaggle of parrots giving the exact same reasons to vote Bona every time, and it's never right.

I wasn't in his scum game, so I can't speak to that, but nothing I'm seeing from Bona this game is at all any different from the above games or the ones where he lived or was nightkilled as town.

Bona is like me. Either people can't read him or don't understand his logic and therefore think it's scummy.

[BusinessLamp]

my two favorite people in this game

[kgray]

The whole “bona could easily replicate this playstyle as scum” argument would work a lot better if that’s what he did as scum.

[Chaqa]

On Day 4, we're going to be at 15 players, which means mafia needs 4 miskills to bring it to 4-3 LYLO. I'll do all my thinking with the worst-case assumption that no cop scans happen or all are on dead players.

Looking at it that way (and also assuming the Cop will get nightkilled and not be a clear, and also that they are from the pool of one of the more townread people), I think my mental exercise now is to three players that I believe there will be at least one scum in.

Why three and not four or five?

I'm saving the final (4-3 day) one because the game state will probably be wildly different before then.

One is additionally slotted to flip TFB.

I think we have to flip that slot before LYLO/MYLO because of the implications it has on Day 2's wagons.

So, three players... with a fourth for a spare

HR
Damo
Goldfinger
CommerceChandelier