MAFIA XXXVIII: INFINITY WAR

[Jamiet99uk]

Current wagons with more than one vote are:

Darg (6)
Snowy (4)
Bo_Sox(4)
Vecna (2)
and er, me (2)

I'm happy with my Snowy vote. Of the others, if one of them is also scum, I'd take a punt at Vecna but I always find him hard to read. Shame nobody else seems to think ND is scum.

[xorxes]

Ezio claimed? Tbh if so that made shooting him smart. That stone needs to stay in town hands, and claiming it would thus be sus is fuck.

I was thinking the same thing, if the Vig was going to shoot a townie, Vision is not the worst outcome. Only problem is if they get NK'd scum get both a PR and the stone.

##VOTE dargo

[Foxcastle]

ND is on my scumlist, Jamiet, but I wasn't going to start vanity wagon this late.

[bo_sox48]

It's also worth noting that nobody is voting for yavuz right now, so the case on him isn't particularly relevant, but I'll sum it up.

a) I believe that he voted for Fox for no reason as a brief bus and then decided against it, changing his vote back to Squigs. This upset Fox, so he introduced a scumread on yavuz but never pursued it. This seems like scum teammate behavior to me. If you disagree, let's talk about it during the night.

b) Yav spent all of his time up to the point where I made my case trying to figure out who the serial killer was. He did very little, if any, scumhunting.

c) Yav continued voting for Squigs after thinking he caught him earlier in the game slipping SK despite more recently calling out flash for slipping SK. If his most recent thought is that the SK is flash, why was he maintaining his vote for and case on Squigs? I scumread flash, which I wasn't very clear on, so again, I wonder if he is a teammate.

d) Yav has since OMGUSed me despite initially, and as recently as a few hours ago, calling me likely town for my "aggressive" case against him.

[yavuzovic]

##VOTE bo_sox48, that's the right play here. He went AFK and mafia need to follow his vote on darg to ensure their influence right now.

I'm not AFK. I'm at work. I worked 5 to midnight yesterday and noon to midnight today. It's slow right now, so I'm on my phone.

What about my case on yavuz do you have questions about? Would you like to ask questions about the case or dismiss it entirely without actually understanding it?

I want to ask why did you claim I was bussed. You told us about that butyou were speaking certainly and your evidences were so weak.

[bo_sox48]

I would go for ND with you, Jamie, if these dumb shits weren't trying to kill me.

[yavuzovic]

Oh I saw

[Jamiet99uk]

This Bo_Sox wagon is interesting.

I mean as far as I can see, Bo hasn't done much other than complain, and post that one really long post about a Yavuzovic - Foxcastle - D.Thomas scumteam that Y2Jericho is focussed on.

Certainly Bo's Yav theory is all over the place and it looks a lot of guff to me.

I still prefer Snowy. He stinks.

[bo_sox48]

##VOTE bo_sox48, that's the right play here. He went AFK and mafia need to follow his vote on darg to ensure their influence right now.

I'm not AFK. I'm at work. I worked 5 to midnight yesterday and noon to midnight today. It's slow right now, so I'm on my phone.

What about my case on yavuz do you have questions about? Would you like to ask questions about the case or dismiss it entirely without actually understanding it?

I want to ask why did you claim I was bussed. You told us about that butyou were speaking certainly and your evidences were so weak.

I explained in plain terms to Squigs that I thought you were being bussed by DT and Fox, but backed off of that claim on DT. I made it clear why I think Fox bussed you. I'm an open minded person and willing to admit when I might be wrong, so if you have an actual defense to that piece of my case, let's hear it.

[bo_sox48]

I mean as far as I can see, Bo hasn't done much other than complain, and post that one really long post about a Yavuzovic - Foxcastle - D.Thomas scumteam that Y2Jericho is focussed on.

Did you read my case? I clearly townread DT.

[y2kjbk]

What's the case on darg?

[bo_sox48]

You fuckheads are trying to kill me while I'm working without even reading my posts lmao, am I that scary?

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh wait hang on, three people that would get on ND (including me)?

I don't know if there's time.

Is Dargorygel going to show up and say anything in his defence? Did he say he'd be absent at EoD?

Also, uh, will Hellenic Riot be modkilled if he doesn't reappear and cast a vote?

[bo_sox48]

What's the case on darg?

His reaction to pressure was to make corny jokes and hide. That said, his absence right now isn't really that suspicious. He is always busy on Wednesdays.

[Jamiet99uk]

I mean as far as I can see, Bo hasn't done much other than complain, and post that one really long post about a Yavuzovic - Foxcastle - D.Thomas scumteam that Y2Jericho is focussed on.

Did you read my case? I clearly townread DT.

Ah ok sorry yeah you did.

You didn't really express yourself all that clearly. Sorry.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ezio claimed? Tbh if so that made shooting him smart. That stone needs to stay in town hands, and claiming it would thus be sus is fuck.

I was thinking the same thing, if the Vig was going to shoot a townie, Vision is not the worst outcome. Only problem is if they get NK'd scum get both a PR and the stone.

##VOTE dargo

Why Dargorygel?

[xorxes]

I think he was Vision because of this post at page 41, never remember Ezio being so openly willing to discuss mechanics, so to me it’ pretty obvious he has an interest on this stone (ok, he was also a SK candidate)

When discussing stones/roles, it is imperative we qualify every statement we make. I'm going to use brainbomb as the example because he's already claimed.
If I say "I think brainbomb has the stone he claimed" this cannot be verified by use of the reality stone.

If is say instead "brainbomb has the stone" the mafia can check that. We naturally want less information for the mafia.
Unless you have 100% proof of something, qualify it, particularly when talking about the SK.

That didn't suggest he had a stone to me.

[y2kjbk]

Darg had some solid question posts that struck me as solid town, let me grab them right now.

[yavuzovic]

You fuckheads are trying to kill me while I'm working without even reading my posts lmao, am I that scary?

Man, you're convincing, even about the case about me but I don't have a better read I don't think I'll change unless something serious comes up.

[bo_sox48]

You fuckheads are trying to kill me while I'm working without even reading my posts lmao, am I that scary?

Man, you're convincing, even about the case about me but I don't have a better read I don't think I'll change unless something serious comes up.

What is your reasoning for dismissing the other wagons?