M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[TheFlyingBoat]

I think TFB scumslipped by +1ing this post.

Also reaally dislike the moving to TFB at the end, especially from RHK. Reeks of just trying to avoid responsibility.

How is that a scum slip? Because I considered the possibility I could have been wrong and what rdr's behavior could be in that scenario? The way I saw it at the time is as follows: If it were scum!Flum, rdr would try and claim he was right all along and spooked by me weirdly joining the wagon (how he thought it was weird given my hours of proselytizing is beyond me). If it were town!Flum then rdr gets to wash his hands of it all and say he was right all along, tfb is super sus for pushing this wagon, let's kill him D2 fast as he has to be scum and that he never wanted any part of the Flum wagon even if he thought what Flum did was weird.

Why is this all about rdr?

Oh wow just looked back at the post I +1ed and I seem to have completely misread the post you were replying to. The reason I +1ed it was because I thought you were criticizing rdr but it turns out it was about Bob. I really liked Bob early D1 but then soured on him somewhat around end of day for being lazy, but I probably wouldn't have +1ed it if I realized it was about Bob instead of rdr because my feelings on rdr are a lot stronger than mine on Bob.

[BusinessLamp]

Just felt Flum was townie in the end and you were the next biggest wagon

you were resistent to tfb tho

yes, i townread boatman

stop that

[Durga]

rip, sorry Flum

I still think Jamie and boatman are townie and Flum could definitely be right about Rivera wanting to avoid getting his hands dirty, though I don't see the need for him to question Flum's wagon composition in that case. Unless, of course, Flum's wagon was all town at that time.

I feel good about HR, I think.

I feel very not good about Durga and ghug.

Chaqa and bozo hardly cared which is sus.

Why? Because flum said to be wary? Or what?

Because you're trying to pretend like I didn't do anything at EOD? And flum agreed apparently? Like what the fuck lol

Firstly, how is that scummy or by not good do you just mean you're upset at me

Secondly, you shaded me for not defending flum to your standards when i actually did defend him and tried to get another kill but i'm not gonna go bat for someone who isn't even defending themselves and someone i wasn't too sure was town anyway

Thirdly, it isn't that you did nothing, you certainly produced a lot of content, and i do think you're likely town, but you kept switching your reads, being unsure about things, and pushing things only to then withdraw that read, so i don't see why you get to be unsure and i need to go hard defending flum

[BobMcBob]

Just felt Flum was townie in the end and you were the next biggest wagon

No you're not getting away with that. You had professed a willingness to vote me earlier as well. Why?

because you said goldie had an excuse for lurking

That's it? He did have an excuse.

[Durga]

Tomorrow I will vote for the person that I scumread the most.

LOL

[kgray]

Because you're trying to pretend like I didn't do anything at EOD? And flum agreed apparently? Like what the fuck lol

lol wait not flum, ghug. ghug agreed with it lmao

It seemed weird to be calling Durga out when you weren't doing any better.

what are you talking about? i tried to get a rivera wagon going, i was clearly doing things. and durga was surprisingly inactive for eod especially considering it was *flum* that was on the block. i actually can't believe you don't think that's sus

[ghug]

How is that a scum slip? Because I considered the possibility I could have been wrong and what rdr's behavior could be in that scenario? The way I saw it at the time is as follows: If it were scum!Flum, rdr would try and claim he was right all along and spooked by me weirdly joining the wagon (how he thought it was weird given my hours of proselytizing is beyond me). If it were town!Flum then rdr gets to wash his hands of it all and say he was right all along, tfb is super sus for pushing this wagon, let's kill him D2 fast as he has to be scum and that he never wanted any part of the Flum wagon even if he thought what Flum did was weird.

Why is this all about rdr?

Oh wow just looked back at the post I +1ed and I seem to have completely misread the post you were replying to. The reason I +1ed it was because I thought you were criticizing rdr but it turns out it was about Bob. I really liked Bob early D1 but then soured on him somewhat around end of day for being lazy, but I probably wouldn't have +1ed it if I realized it was about Bob instead of rdr because my feelings on rdr are a lot stronger than mine on Bob.

Ok, so did you also not understand I was saying [person I was talking about] was preparing to criticize town for killing town Flum, or what?

[kgray]

I find it far more baffling that she was OK with a Flum kill in the first place.

I don't think ending on Bob looks significantly different from ending on rd, so it looks less scum motivated than switching off of Flum to not the main counterwagon. I'm also inclined to give Lamp a pass cause he's new to this and voted Flum as a half joke.

why is it baffling i was okay with a flum kill? and i switched to bob because in the end i prefered flum to *not* be the kill

Cause Flum was town.

oh, right. you're baffled because my reads are correct 99% of the time and this is the *one* time I was suspicious of a townie. my bad

[kgray]

Okay I'm not surprised I missed the case on rdr. It was mostly HR saying very weak things in very obscure ways and since I was tight on time I tended to ignore posts that said nothing in too many words.
"Ah yes, some noncommittal reactions with players I am unsure of."
"What ho, I see a connection with Flum but you are focussing on a connection with bozo, whatever are you thinking?"
"Hmm yes rdr sure has been hard to follow"
Colour me surprised that the wagon never took off, or that I completely failed to remember any arguments for it.

HR wasn't even the main pusher of the Rivera wagon?? are you even trying?

[Durga]

Why? Because flum said to be wary? Or what?

Because you're trying to pretend like I didn't do anything at EOD? And flum agreed apparently? Like what the fuck lol

lol wait not flum, ghug. ghug agreed with it lmao

oh lol, either way

[ghug]

kgray grumpy good vibes

Bob grumpy bad vibes cause he was before the flip too.

[BusinessLamp]

if bona dies i dont know that i'll be able to emotionally recover

[TheFlyingBoat]

Okay I'm not surprised I missed the case on rdr. It was mostly HR saying very weak things in very obscure ways and since I was tight on time I tended to ignore posts that said nothing in too many words.
"Ah yes, some noncommittal reactions with players I am unsure of."
"What ho, I see a connection with Flum but you are focussing on a connection with bozo, whatever are you thinking?"
"Hmm yes rdr sure has been hard to follow"
Colour me surprised that the wagon never took off, or that I completely failed to remember any arguments for it.

HR wasn't even the main pusher of the Rivera wagon?? are you even trying?

Damn Bob had the chance to go back and still missed your arguments lol

[Durga]

lol wait not flum, ghug. ghug agreed with it lmao

It seemed weird to be calling Durga out when you weren't doing any better.

what are you talking about? i tried to get a rivera wagon going, i was clearly doing things. and durga was surprisingly inactive for eod especially considering it was *flum* that was on the block. i actually can't believe you don't think that's sus

i'm still a little shocked that your take here is i should somehow be defending him more and therefore i'm sus

[BobMcBob]

Okay I'm not surprised I missed the case on rdr. It was mostly HR saying very weak things in very obscure ways and since I was tight on time I tended to ignore posts that said nothing in too many words.
"Ah yes, some noncommittal reactions with players I am unsure of."
"What ho, I see a connection with Flum but you are focussing on a connection with bozo, whatever are you thinking?"
"Hmm yes rdr sure has been hard to follow"
Colour me surprised that the wagon never took off, or that I completely failed to remember any arguments for it.

HR wasn't even the main pusher of the Rivera wagon?? are you even trying?

I just looked at you, HR and TFB and I didn't check after you voted him for some reason because I thought you'd shut up after that since you had nothing to say or something. Dunno why actually. Your case still sucks though.

[Hellenic Riot]

Okay I'm not surprised I missed the case on rdr. It was mostly HR saying very weak things in very obscure ways and since I was tight on time I tended to ignore posts that said nothing in too many words.
"Ah yes, some noncommittal reactions with players I am unsure of."
"What ho, I see a connection with Flum but you are focussing on a connection with bozo, whatever are you thinking?"
"Hmm yes rdr sure has been hard to follow"
Colour me surprised that the wagon never took off, or that I completely failed to remember any arguments for it.

Now who's acting like they have intellectual superiority? To think this is what I get for being nice! Maximum ego must soon be unleashed.

[kgray]

Why? Because flum said to be wary? Or what?

Because you're trying to pretend like I didn't do anything at EOD? And flum agreed apparently? Like what the fuck lol

Firstly, how is that scummy or by not good do you just mean you're upset at me

Secondly, you shaded me for not defending flum to your standards when i actually did defend him and tried to get another kill but i'm not gonna go bat for someone who isn't even defending themselves and someone i wasn't too sure was town anyway

Thirdly, it isn't that you did nothing, you certainly produced a lot of content, and i do think you're likely town, but you kept switching your reads, being unsure about things, and pushing things only to then withdraw that read, so i don't see why you get to be unsure and i need to go hard defending flum

i mean i'm insulted yeah but i also think it's scummy because you're normally very blunt about saying flum is a terrible early kill, you talk about sheeping him all the time, you're generally his biggest fan. so here when he flips town and you seemed apathetic about it, it makes perfect sense that you'd be pleased a respected/good player gets miskilled if you're scum.

i sort of see your point about him not defending himself leading up to eod, but you didn't react to his long final words post, which i think *was* him showing that he was defending himself, and there was time for people to switch. i know you weren't voting him but i've seen you rally people to move over less.

i'm not saying you don't get to be unsure, and i'm not saying i was really trying that hard to save flum. i'm just saying i know you love playing with flum when you're town and normally you try harder to protect him because you're friends and because he's generally good

[TheFlyingBoat]

Okay I'm not surprised I missed the case on rdr. It was mostly HR saying very weak things in very obscure ways and since I was tight on time I tended to ignore posts that said nothing in too many words.
"Ah yes, some noncommittal reactions with players I am unsure of."
"What ho, I see a connection with Flum but you are focussing on a connection with bozo, whatever are you thinking?"
"Hmm yes rdr sure has been hard to follow"
Colour me surprised that the wagon never took off, or that I completely failed to remember any arguments for it.

Now who's acting like they have intellectual superiority? To think this is what I get for being nice! Maximum ego must soon be unleashed.

Oh lord the world isn't ready for max ego HR

[kgray]

No you're not getting away with that. You had professed a willingness to vote me earlier as well. Why?

because you said goldie had an excuse for lurking

That's it? He did have an excuse.

yes bob lol i've been pretty consistent about feeling okay about you, but i didn't like that post so i commented on it. i don't think it's a good excuse and if he can't play he should sub out

[Donny Dude]

Hr could you explain your progression on Bob at eod
I feel like you went from Bob is clueless to him being your strongest townread?
Was there a reason for flum over myself at that time of your vote on flum?