M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

It's not just that they jumped ship, it's the doing it at the last second and not even getting on the main counterwagon. All three of them wanted Flum dead but didn't want to be the killer.

jumping to not the main counterwagon is a good point though

Which conveniently avoids any blame for you jumping to me?

lmao okay blame me if you want

[Jamiet99uk]

Vintage

Well what else am I to say?

This community needs to learn that making up silly lies as a form of reaction test is not a useful strategy and rarely leads to good outcomes.

k, Jamiet, do you think reaction testing is useless?

Not always, but often.

[Hellenic Riot]

Tomorrow I will vote for the person that I scumread the most.

Not even a mild jest in response to mine? I am disappointed

[Bonatogether]

Tomorrow I will vote for the person that I scumread the most.

incredible

[TheFlyingBoat]

I think TFB scumslipped by +1ing this post.

Also reaally dislike the moving to TFB at the end, especially from RHK. Reeks of just trying to avoid responsibility.

How is that a scum slip? Because I considered the possibility I could have been wrong and what rdr's behavior could be in that scenario? The way I saw it at the time is as follows: If it were scum!Flum, rdr would try and claim he was right all along and spooked by me weirdly joining the wagon (how he thought it was weird given my hours of proselytizing is beyond me). If it were town!Flum then rdr gets to wash his hands of it all and say he was right all along, tfb is super sus for pushing this wagon, let's kill him D2 fast as he has to be scum and that he never wanted any part of the Flum wagon even if he thought what Flum did was weird.

I greatly enjoy how in both scenarios the entire focus of rdrivera's play is you

I mean rdr did bring me up a lot in his commentary regarding why he didn't vote for Flum I feel like. I suppose maybe I should have tossed damo in there as well since rdr made frequent reference to him

[Jamiet99uk]

Tomorrow I will vote for the person that I scumread the most.

Not even a mild jest in response to mine? I am disappointed

In response to your what?

[ghug]

ghug can you explain your vote switch

The day was over and I wanted to get back at Flum for not townreading me like he promised.

[kgray]

I quite frankly fail to see how there was anything groundbreaking enough in Flum's post to change minds on him, so I'm also suspicious of everyone who jumped ship, yeah.

It's not just that they jumped ship, it's the doing it at the last second and not even getting on the main counterwagon. All three of them wanted Flum dead but didn't want to be the killer.

no but to answer seriously, for my part i was torn because i still wanted a flip in the Flum/TFB region, right? anything else would just make the same discussion happen tomorrow, and i didn't feel badly about bob. I wish the switch happened two minutes earlier so people could've reacted, but I wasn't thinking fast enough. It wasn't until Bona switched that I was like "oh shit maybe that's still a possibility, thats a good idea" It's hard to know how long 2 minutes is and what's possible there. i think if it happened at :56 instead of :58 might've yielded different results. just wasn't thinking fast enough.

so just fyi, flum's post was plenty early enough for people to switch. many votes come down to the last seconds, not just the last minutes

[DemonRHK]

Tomorrow I will vote for the person that I scumread the most.

Better start sizing the parrot up for a box if the fox read holds...

[Hellenic Riot]

Tomorrow I will vote for the person that I scumread the most.

Not even a mild jest in response to mine? I am disappointed

In response to your what?

I called you out for agreeing with me, but alas - The moment has passed.

[BusinessLamp]

She was on rd and got on the lead counterwagon. That's less weird to me.

Is it? If you're saying that people wanted to avoid looking like they had blood on their hands; not lifting a finger to save Flum until it's too late but then parking on the main counterwagon at the last second is pretty much the epitome of that.

I don't find her particularly suspicious overall, but I do not see how you can let that slide so easily whilst damning the others.

I find it far more baffling that she was OK with a Flum kill in the first place.

I don't think ending on Bob looks significantly different from ending on rd, so it looks less scum motivated than switching off of Flum to not the main counterwagon. I'm also inclined to give Lamp a pass cause he's new to this and voted Flum as a half joke.

nah i didnt vote flum as a joke. i felt like him leaving left us in a better position than bob leaving. i was being genuine when i was saying that if people didnt switch to TFB that a flum vote was next best option imo. but then when flum makes his post and is definitively obv!town that comes into question and its like... ok, my gut still says the bob wagon is bad. i dont think i want to go there. and was just waffling for too long

[Jamiet99uk]

Tomorrow I will vote for the person that I scumread the most.

Better start sizing the parrot up for a box if the fox read holds...

Birds are not real.

[Jamiet99uk]

Not even a mild jest in response to mine? I am disappointed

In response to your what?

I called you out for agreeing with me, but alas - The moment has passed.

Oh sorry I missed it.

I should go to sleep.

[kgray]

rip, sorry Flum

I still think Jamie and boatman are townie and Flum could definitely be right about Rivera wanting to avoid getting his hands dirty, though I don't see the need for him to question Flum's wagon composition in that case. Unless, of course, Flum's wagon was all town at that time.

I feel good about HR, I think.

I feel very not good about Durga and ghug.

Chaqa and bozo hardly cared which is sus.

Why? Because flum said to be wary? Or what?

Because you're trying to pretend like I didn't do anything at EOD? And flum agreed apparently? Like what the fuck lol

lol wait not flum, ghug. ghug agreed with it lmao

[ghug]

Why? Because flum said to be wary? Or what?

Because you're trying to pretend like I didn't do anything at EOD? And flum agreed apparently? Like what the fuck lol

lol wait not flum, ghug. ghug agreed with it lmao

It seemed weird to be calling Durga out when you weren't doing any better.

[kgray]

She was on rd and got on the lead counterwagon. That's less weird to me.

Is it? If you're saying that people wanted to avoid looking like they had blood on their hands; not lifting a finger to save Flum until it's too late but then parking on the main counterwagon at the last second is pretty much the epitome of that.

I don't find her particularly suspicious overall, but I do not see how you can let that slide so easily whilst damning the others.

I find it far more baffling that she was OK with a Flum kill in the first place.

I don't think ending on Bob looks significantly different from ending on rd, so it looks less scum motivated than switching off of Flum to not the main counterwagon. I'm also inclined to give Lamp a pass cause he's new to this and voted Flum as a half joke.

why is it baffling i was okay with a flum kill? and i switched to bob because in the end i prefered flum to *not* be the kill

[kgray]

Also I would like everyone on my wagon at the end of the day (except maniac) to explain why. I don't care if you have stated a case on me already, please state it again anyway. Not that I think that'll be a problem.

Just felt Flum was townie in the end and you were the next biggest wagon

you were resistent to tfb tho

yes, i townread boatman

[ghug]

Is it? If you're saying that people wanted to avoid looking like they had blood on their hands; not lifting a finger to save Flum until it's too late but then parking on the main counterwagon at the last second is pretty much the epitome of that.

I don't find her particularly suspicious overall, but I do not see how you can let that slide so easily whilst damning the others.

I find it far more baffling that she was OK with a Flum kill in the first place.

I don't think ending on Bob looks significantly different from ending on rd, so it looks less scum motivated than switching off of Flum to not the main counterwagon. I'm also inclined to give Lamp a pass cause he's new to this and voted Flum as a half joke.

why is it baffling i was okay with a flum kill? and i switched to bob because in the end i prefered flum to *not* be the kill

Cause Flum was town.

[kgray]

Also I would like everyone on my wagon at the end of the day (except maniac) to explain why. I don't care if you have stated a case on me already, please state it again anyway. Not that I think that'll be a problem.

Just felt Flum was townie in the end and you were the next biggest wagon

No you're not getting away with that. You had professed a willingness to vote me earlier as well. Why?

because you said goldie had an excuse for lurking

[BobMcBob]

Okay I'm not surprised I missed the case on rdr. It was mostly HR saying very weak things in very obscure ways and since I was tight on time I tended to ignore posts that said nothing in too many words.
"Ah yes, some noncommittal reactions with players I am unsure of."
"What ho, I see a connection with Flum but you are focussing on a connection with bozo, whatever are you thinking?"
"Hmm yes rdr sure has been hard to follow"
Colour me surprised that the wagon never took off, or that I completely failed to remember any arguments for it.