M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[TheFlyingBoat]

Im going to make that mistake a lot aren't I?

I didn't say anything for a while but it was really irritating me for some reason I don't understand. Probably because every now and then I like to search for my name to see if I missed any @s since I have had a habit of missing kgray asking me questions and having tbf instead of TFB just adds yet another thing to search for in addition to TFB and TheFlyingBoat and Boatman and Boat (which also captures Boat man but not Boatman).

Don't worry, you'll know when you miss a question from me because I'll yell at you and scumread you for it

Also you can use asterisks with the bot, so searching boat* will also return boatman

Oh wow there was no documentation that it supported wildcards...that would have made a lot of searches much easier

[TheFlyingBoat]

Okay then what do you think about bozo claiming to know what Flum was hinting at? Bozo, fact-checker extraordinaire, who didn't recall his own teammate from last game saying he was town?

Bozo was the other who stuck out to me too. I've wifommed his alignment in my head in loops over it.
I guess it won't hurt to directly ask at this point what he thinks about it.

I remembered you bringing this up in a previous game, so I went along with it, but now that is has received so much attention I did check your previous scum games and in M59 you did say "I'm town". I know you have retracted your claim, but you went along with it for awhile, so I am not sure I buy your explanation.

@kgray re: your bozo theory

[bozotheclown]

Bozo / Flum/ Durga / celaph are my PoE for today.

Kgray and Bona and Jamie are very town

Agree on Jamie and Bona.

Don´t want to kill Durga or Bozo.

Why Kgray is very town?

Why not bozo? Is this going to be another game where scum!bozo doesn’t do much and his teammates protect him because he’s good when he’s town?

What past game are you referring to? I didn't have any teammates to protect me after the middle of D2 in M71.

[celaph]

Ladies and gentlemen, I must draw your attention to the fact that I have here, on the last few pages, provided proof, evidence, a smoking gun, which demonstrates that Fluminator was lying about his so-called "trust tell".

I encourage you all, young and old, large or small, to ##Vote Fluminator.

Jamie, since you wanted to know about my opinions of your arguments last time, I think your Fox case was much stronger than this Flum one.

Why exactly?

Flum back pedalling on his claim is weird and scummy. If he said, "yeah, I am lazy didn´t check and didn´t remember saying I was town last game", I think it would be NAI. But trying to change the meaning of that post is weird and scummy. And the case on Fox isn´t that solid, is a good one for D1 but it isn´t like a confirmed scum.

I think this is the right take on Flum. Though the way you've shaded the case on Fox feels weird. There is obviously a big difference between being a solid case for D1 and conf scum and saying it isn't the latter isn't really an argument against it being the former. I saw that you earlier said that you wanted to hear more from Jamie on Fox. What are you looking for, but not seeing?

[kgray]

Bozo was the other who stuck out to me too. I've wifommed his alignment in my head in loops over it.
I guess it won't hurt to directly ask at this point what he thinks about it.

I remembered you bringing this up in a previous game, so I went along with it, but now that is has received so much attention I did check your previous scum games and in M59 you did say "I'm town". I know you have retracted your claim, but you went along with it for awhile, so I am not sure I buy your explanation.

@kgray re: your bozo theory

lol yes I can read boatman

I'm not sure how much weight to give this given I called him out on it, and it's the initial oversight that I find more un-bozolike anyway

[damo666]

Okay then what do you think about bozo claiming to know what Flum was hinting at? Bozo, fact-checker extraordinaire, who didn't recall his own teammate from last game saying he was town?

Bozo was the other who stuck out to me too. I've wifommed his alignment in my head in loops over it.
I guess it won't hurt to directly ask at this point what he thinks about it.

I remembered you bringing this up in a previous game, so I went along with it, but now that is has received so much attention I did check your previous scum games and in M59 you did say "I'm town". I know you have retracted your claim, but you went along with it for awhile, so I am not sure I buy your explanation.

##vote Flum

He has to go. Too much confusion and doubt now.

##End

I will not be here EOD.

[kgray]

Agree on Jamie and Bona.

Don´t want to kill Durga or Bozo.

Why Kgray is very town?

Why not bozo? Is this going to be another game where scum!bozo doesn’t do much and his teammates protect him because he’s good when he’s town?

What past game are you referring to? I didn't have any teammates to protect me after the middle of D2 in M71.

I am mostly referring to D1 last game where both Durga and Flum said you deserved at least a day

[TheFlyingBoat]

I remembered you bringing this up in a previous game, so I went along with it, but now that is has received so much attention I did check your previous scum games and in M59 you did say "I'm town". I know you have retracted your claim, but you went along with it for awhile, so I am not sure I buy your explanation.

@kgray re: your bozo theory

lol yes I can read boatman

I'm not sure how much weight to give this given I called him out on it, and it's the initial oversight that I find more un-bozolike anyway

I dunno just had to make sure

[Fluminator]

Donny seems a little bit obsessed with Flum this game

I'm surprised Flum isn't more obsessed with Donny considering he threw that one game to him

I'm a little worried he mentioned he went back to M61 and concluded I was being truthful about the trust tell when I made this post pretty early on in that game. I want to scumread him for that, but he does feel pretty townie at a gut feel.

The pizza tell actually broke a few games imo.

FTR, I'm not actually starting a trust tell. It's to illustrate there's always ways to break games.
In one diplomacy game I was really indignant when I got teamed out for trying to blackmail a rulebreaker into doing what I said or else I'd report him to the mods. But now that I've gotten older and more mature, I can understand the viewpoint that it's not that great or clever to always try to break the game in your advantage even if it's not officially cheating.

"

[Fluminator]

That said, no regrets throwing that game to him. He deserved it in that one.

[bozotheclown]

Why not bozo? Is this going to be another game where scum!bozo doesn’t do much and his teammates protect him because he’s good when he’s town?

What past game are you referring to? I didn't have any teammates to protect me after the middle of D2 in M71.

I am mostly referring to D1 last game where both Durga and Flum said you deserved at least a day

OK, but I would contest the claim that I wasn't doing much D1 in M71, I was trying to get ghug DKed at the end of D1.

[BusinessLamp]

i lied i did look into it further even though it's 1am

not to be too focused on the stuff about me, but rdi's reactions of doubting me at first and then seemingly coming around strike me as more genuine than celaph just slight town-reading me. if a potential route as mafia is about blending in and making non-controversial posts so as to not draw attention, i feel like celaph is moreso doing that.

which is also kind of why i townread bona decently strongly. the easy thing to do as scum is to just support/back the likeable new guy. him going against the grain a bit with that is a harder sell to make, so it feels more genuine.

I really like this post. The comment about Bona is exactly what I am feeling about him.

And no, I am not buddying anyone.

Have you met Bona?

no not really. what do u mean

[celaph]

He claimed it is a "trust tell" that he never ever says he's town, when he is scum.

I provided a post of Fluminator, as scum, claiming to be town.

This demonstrates his claimed trust tell is false.

If I am wrong, please explain how.

Because it's Flum and he's trolling

Please explain how this helps town to catch scum.

At the very least I think it (+the fox push) has given me a solid townlean on you.

[kgray]

What past game are you referring to? I didn't have any teammates to protect me after the middle of D2 in M71.

I am mostly referring to D1 last game where both Durga and Flum said you deserved at least a day

OK, but I would contest the claim that I wasn't doing much D1 in M71, I was trying to get ghug DKed at the end of D1.

Apologies for the oversight, that's certainly a worthy cause

[DeathLlama8]

hm how do people feel about donny

[celaph]

Maniac, HR, and goldie should probably be considered as well.

It's not really fair to put HR and Maniac in the same clump as goldie imo. They at least provided original reads and thoughts about the game.

I'd be fine with goldie.

I'd rather goldie get subbed than kill him.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Donny seems a little bit obsessed with Flum this game

I'm surprised Flum isn't more obsessed with Donny considering he threw that one game to him

I'm a little worried he mentioned he went back to M61 and concluded I was being truthful about the trust tell when I made this post pretty early on in that game. I want to scumread him for that, but he does feel pretty townie at a gut feel.

The pizza tell actually broke a few games imo.

FTR, I'm not actually starting a trust tell. It's to illustrate there's always ways to break games.
In one diplomacy game I was really indignant when I got teamed out for trying to blackmail a rulebreaker into doing what I said or else I'd report him to the mods. But now that I've gotten older and more mature, I can understand the viewpoint that it's not that great or clever to always try to break the game in your advantage even if it's not officially cheating.

"

How do you square that with your play this game?

[Bonatogether]

not to mention, while i appreciate the trust, using anyone else as an indicator feels like it would just be a way to scapegoat/transfer blame to that person later on.

blamp, this is a stupid take

also the sudden jump to talk formally from not even capitalizing makes me kinda scumread you cause i do that sometimes when i'm lying. also you go back to not capitalizing like a nerd next paragraph

Bona, could you try to refrain from repeatedly calling people "stupid".
It isn't very nice.

the post is stupid

blamp might be stupid too, but he hangs out with durga so he can't be that dumb

[DeathLlama8]

Bozo was the other who stuck out to me too. I've wifommed his alignment in my head in loops over it.
I guess it won't hurt to directly ask at this point what he thinks about it.

I remembered you bringing this up in a previous game, so I went along with it, but now that is has received so much attention I did check your previous scum games and in M59 you did say "I'm town". I know you have retracted your claim, but you went along with it for awhile, so I am not sure I buy your explanation.

vote Flum

He has to go. Too much confusion and doubt now.

End

I will not be here EOD.

second time damo's ended on someone like this, can't remember him being this black-or-white in the past?

[Bonatogether]

Interesting that you do not mention Foxcastle whatsoever.
What is your opinion on Foxcastle and why is he missing from your list?

Oh you voted for him while I was posting that.
Laugh out loud.

Wasn't that a bit odd?

##vote Bob

##vote damo666