MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

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it seems unfair that he can offer you something we cant

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I already voted to concede

no town should ever be subjected to playing some game that is not mafia where we decide if we prefer one mafia group over another

that isnt mafia at all

and if one group gets a special rule to allow a tie then all sides should get that rule

it doesnt say anything about ties on any of the mafia role pms
and it says nothing about how you can reasonably play to a wincon as town when your options are die to give scum a tie or pledge loyalty to award one side a win

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this should be a three way tie and I dont beleive it is fair that you are not a majority, both of you are outnumbered 3-1 right now and outted and were sitting here declaring you both victors

if thats the case just say the game is over

i already left the server and I have no interest in watching you decide which town to keep alive. nor should anyone currently playing unless we get a fair shake also

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but whatever the council decided that town wasnt eligible for a tie for some reason. so congrats on not winning bozo

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##call gm

explain a scenario where any town could play to their wincon currently

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##call gm

if the three remaining town requested to be modkilled who would be awarded the win here

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actually dont answer those
I already know the answers and its whatever

gg

[Jamiet99uk]

##call gm can this game end in a tie?

Yes. Some might interpret a "tie" as a shared loss. It is not a shared win. But yes, there is a scenario where that can happen.

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If left alive and forced to choose between one scumteam or the other I would probably choose the team with Sabi because I beleive they did more exceptional things in this game as their first time being scum.

also I think the sabi team played with more integrity than the ghug meme and bozo team.

I urge whichever town is remaining to immediatley offer to end hammer bozo and award sabi the win for her mvp performance here

we can discuss this if everyone likes

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their*

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I am unclear on if towns wincon is that a tie is better than one side or the other winning.

there is nothing that says were allowed to pick a side in the rules

rule 9 states we cannot self sabotage and I dont know what would be a greater rule violation: letting both scum earn a tie which gives all 6 scum a tie or letting one side get a win which gives 3/6 a victory

either way all of us are violating rule 9 by even being involved so if we all get sanctioned for choosing something I would rather just be modkilled

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a suggestion for fixing this wouldve been that in final 8 if its 1-1-6 that the two scum merge teams automatically.

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I applaud celaph and flying boat for tolerating the situation with
more dignity and grace than I have. losing is infuriating and it is my ugly side coming out. I bear no hatred to the gms or to bozo; and I have no one to blame but myself for playing an absolutely horrible bombastic game from start to finish. I accomplished nothing of quality in this game and embarassed myself and my team so for that I am sorry.
I had no business even signing up.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Well bozo is apparently killing you brainbomb, but I'll make the same offer to Sabi. Take your shot at bozo or celaph, Sabi, and you'll wind up picking up your first scum win on the back of my vote

[BesharamSabi]

I dunno what to say, part of me feels like this is all a trick. Can we hammer the night and end this game? Let's not drag it out.

[TheFlyingBoat]

I dunno what to say, part of me feels like this is all a trick. Can we hammer the night and end this game? Let's not drag it out.

I think if you and bozo message the Jamie asking to hammer the night it should go through.

[BesharamSabi]

a suggestion for fixing this wouldve been that in final 8 if its 1-1-6 that the two scum merge teams automatically.

I think that would have been a good change to fix this format

[BesharamSabi]

I dunno what to say, part of me feels like this is all a trick. Can we hammer the night and end this game? Let's not drag it out.

I think if you and bozo message the Jamie asking to hammer the night it should go through.

Jamie said all the players

[TheFlyingBoat]

I dunno what to say, part of me feels like this is all a trick. Can we hammer the night and end this game? Let's not drag it out.

I think if you and bozo message the Jamie asking to hammer the night it should go through.

Jamie said all the players

Sad react. I messaged him to request a night hammer

[TheFlyingBoat]

a suggestion for fixing this wouldve been that in final 8 if its 1-1-6 that the two scum merge teams automatically.

I think the solution is that if a night begins at 1E-1K both players take their shot and both players die meaning everyone loses.