MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[TheFlyingBoat]

Bozo I'd like to change my teams to: TFB, lfischl, Macca and meme, damo

I could be wrong about one of the lurkers and Flum or Snowy or perhaps Bozo might be scum as well, but we'll sort it out eventually and this is my current POE.

These scum team calls seem way too easy and it almost seems like a deliberate effort to avoid targeting the "stronger" players in the game in an attempt to avoid drawing their ire.

[TheMadMonarch]

I am open to suggestions about moving my vote. I don't want to die, so I worry about moving it to something to small. But I don't have much of a scumread on any of the 2 people wagons, and brain said not to kill Tom.

Lots of people say not to kill lots of people.

Fox and brain are my top townreads, so I trust what they say.

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote lfisch.

Still think brain killed Durga but whatever. It’s easy to fake scumreads when you just pick the most scumread people which is what I think just happened with fisch.

[Tom Bombadil]

Still really want Sabi to explain her change in read on Flum…

[TheFlyingBoat]

##vote lfisch.

Still think brain killed Durga but whatever. It’s easy to fake scumreads when you just pick the most scumread people which is what I think just happened with fisch.

Do you think faking scum reads is alignment indicative for lfischl or just what'd he do town or scum due to lack of engagement/effort?

[Tom Bombadil]

I don’t know fisch, so I can’t answer that TFB. In a vacuum I find it scummy

[TheFlyingBoat]

I am open to suggestions about moving my vote. I don't want to die, so I worry about moving it to something to small. But I don't have much of a scumread on any of the 2 people wagons, and brain said not to kill Tom.

Lots of people say not to kill lots of people.

Fox and brain are my top townreads, so I trust what they say.

Why are they your top town reads?

[Jamiet99uk]

=== MINISTRY of ADMINISTRATION ===
+++++ VOTE COUNT 2.5 +++++

Ghug(4) - çâpţăïñmémè, bozotheclown, Macca573, Lfischl
Lfischl(3) - BesharamSabi, Foxcastle, Tom Bombadil
Macca573(2) - Fluminator, TheFlyingBoat
TheFlyingBoat(2) - Damo666, brainbomb
Tom Bombadil(2) - ghug, Snowy801
Damo666(1) - Squigs44
Captainmeme(1) - rdrivera2005

GHUG is on the naughty step.

3 hours and 40 minutes remain in Day 2.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[TheFlyingBoat]

I don’t know fisch, so I can’t answer that TFB. In a vacuum I find it scummy

Fair enough. Would them having a reputation for being very inactive and unengaged change your view? It may be worth killing them anyways if the D1 activity levels prove to be just a fluke and they intend to be this unengaged since they will likely never be an NK target, but I just wanted to hammer down why lfischl was your preferred target over other inactives/disengaged people.

[TheMadMonarch]

Lots of people say not to kill lots of people.

Fox and brain are my top townreads, so I trust what they say.

Why are they your top town reads?

Fox is a gut read. He just seems very trustworthy. Solid blue read. Very good.
Being Townread is Brain's default state (for me), and he has yet to do anything to drop that.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Fox and brain are my top townreads, so I trust what they say.

Why are they your top town reads?

Fox is a gut read. He just seems very trustworthy. Solid blue read. Very good.
Being Townread is Brain's default state (for me), and he has yet to do anything to drop that.

huh?

[snowy801]

Yes, that is possible if I am wrong about you. Would you like to vote for him?

Can you provide your predictions for the remaining mafia?

I would yes ##vote ghug

For the other mafia, I’d say my 2 strongest are macca and flum

Ah. The classic, “I dunno. Let’s just pick the three popular scumreads of the moment and go with that.”

To be fair they're pretty scummy

[ghug]

Fox and brain are my top townreads, so I trust what they say.

Why are they your top town reads?

Fox is a gut read. He just seems very trustworthy. Solid blue read. Very good.
Being Townread is Brain's default state (for me), and he has yet to do anything to drop that.

So you're going to not vote for your scumread because someone you like outside of this game's context says so?

[Squigs44]

Bozo I'd like to change my teams to: TFB, lfischl, Macca and meme, damo

I could be wrong about one of the lurkers and Flum or Snowy or perhaps Bozo might be scum as well, but we'll sort it out eventually and this is my current POE.

These scum team calls seem way too easy and it almost seems like a deliberate effort to avoid targeting the "stronger" players in the game in an attempt to avoid drawing their ire.

Who do you consider the "stronger" players?

[TheMadMonarch]

Why are they your top town reads?

Fox is a gut read. He just seems very trustworthy. Solid blue read. Very good.
Being Townread is Brain's default state (for me), and he has yet to do anything to drop that.

huh?

I find, usually, by the end of a D1, I have a town read on brain. This game, he has yet to do anything that I would find scummy.

[TheMadMonarch]

Why are they your top town reads?

Fox is a gut read. He just seems very trustworthy. Solid blue read. Very good.
Being Townread is Brain's default state (for me), and he has yet to do anything to drop that.

So you're going to not vote for your scumread because someone you like outside of this game's context says so?

I'm townreading brain, and experience tells me he has good ideas.

Don't know if it was clear yet, but I outsource a lot of my decisions to players I trust to be town. I get bullied for my own opinions being very wrong, so I've mostly given up having them. At least until I get some time to dig into the bot.

[TheMadMonarch]

I also don't like that you and snowy are both voting for tom...

[TheFlyingBoat]

Bozo I'd like to change my teams to: TFB, lfischl, Macca and meme, damo

I could be wrong about one of the lurkers and Flum or Snowy or perhaps Bozo might be scum as well, but we'll sort it out eventually and this is my current POE.

These scum team calls seem way too easy and it almost seems like a deliberate effort to avoid targeting the "stronger" players in the game in an attempt to avoid drawing their ire.

Who do you consider the "stronger" players?

Snowy and ghug for sure based on my direct experience with them. Tom, rdr, bozo, brain, and Flum based on reputation. Definitely not me, Damo (I think he's a fine player but reputation-wise from what other's have told me in M70, here, and what I've seen in other games, he generally has a reputation for being out there and he had a pretty bad scum slip in 1020 that was conspicuous yet never acted upon), and three inactives lol.

[snowy801]

I think it's great

[TheFlyingBoat]

Fox is a gut read. He just seems very trustworthy. Solid blue read. Very good.
Being Townread is Brain's default state (for me), and he has yet to do anything to drop that.

huh?

I find, usually, by the end of a D1, I have a town read on brain. This game, he has yet to do anything that I would find scummy.

Have you ever been wrong on your townread on brain? If/when you were, did you look back at the game and see hints of why you were wrong? How does that piece into this game?