MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[Squigs44]

Also am I drinking kool-aid or damo just obvscumming

This might be the first time we agree on a scumread Snowy... not sure what that means

[brainbomb]

I lean on durga being killed by a team who thought she was PR and in a not mutually exclusive world killed her for having at least one of their team in the crosshairs

[Foxcastle]

Look I don't mean to knock down game philosophy but who do you think is scum? You've so far given like 0 total answers (unless you genuinely scum read lfischl, in which case make it clear)

I have given answers. It irritates me that you frame it in a way that incorrectly feeds into your "Foxcastle isn't doing anything" read. I apologize that I'm not in-your-face enough to register your attention.

I have spent a bunch of time trying to convince people that Bozo should be killed. I have strong town reads on Squiggs, Rdr, and Sabi, and moderate-to-weak town reads on Ghug, Damo, and Meme. Flum could be scum, you're null. Someone pointed out that TFB is unlikely to be scum with Durga, so I'm reconsidering that, but POE leaves me with the rest.

[TheFlyingBoat]

##vote theflyingboat

Didn't you say you didn't think I was on Durga's scum team based on her fanning the flames in response to me ignoring your question? What changed?

[Squigs44]

Macca, your vote is on ghug and you've said you would possibly wagon me. Other than that, you just say you're unsure of alignments. Is your only scumhunting tactic to scumread whoever has voted you?

[brainbomb]

##vote theflyingboat

Didn't you say you didn't think I was on Durga's scum team based on her fanning the flames in response to me ignoring your question? What changed?

I just think you are scum on one of the two and I dont know which. I dont know if it matters entirely which you are on but you fit the mould of either.

[brainbomb]

I think we should go for scummiest people today and not filter our hunting to only people who wanted durga dead; but who fit the profile to just be scum period

[TheFlyingBoat]

##vote theflyingboat

Didn't you say you didn't think I was on Durga's scum team based on her fanning the flames in response to me ignoring your question? What changed?

I just think you are scum on one of the two and I dont know which. I dont know if it matters entirely which you are on but you fit the mould of either.

Care to explain why you think I fit the profile? I remember being defended by you and want to know what changed in your read to make you think I'm scum now. I didn't think my updated reads were that bad

[brainbomb]

Also having been scum with ghug many times; he doesnt like killing durga early. in fact he prefers to keep durga around because he enjoys the challenge of buddying her. early on ghug noticed that the way she was reading me was unusual for her.
not sure if ghug points out a reason why durga is being scum if hes scum with her. so I dont see ghug as scum in either scenario.

he isnt buddying her
and wasnt protecting her in fact he was sus of her from what I recall

[brainbomb]

Didn't you say you didn't think I was on Durga's scum team based on her fanning the flames in response to me ignoring your question? What changed?

I just think you are scum on one of the two and I dont know which. I dont know if it matters entirely which you are on but you fit the mould of either.

Care to explain why you think I fit the profile? I remember being defended by you and want to know what changed in your read to make you think I'm scum now. I didn't think my updated reads were that bad

because the read was thrown together and the names on it seem forced and unconsidered

you had macca as scum with durga which just feels random and totally unlikely given that durga tried to kill macca instead of:?

[TheFlyingBoat]

I think we should go for scummiest people today and not filter our hunting to only people who wanted durga dead; but who fit the profile to just be scum period

I agree with the first part, but I don't think just those who publicly wanted Durga dead are necessarily the people who NKed her. I think there is value in looking at Durga's interactions with others to see who could fill one of 5 spots, one of 3, or one of 2 to increase the odds of a hit. Obviously if we have conf on anyone they're the obvious target, but otherwise I think shooting at one of the fivers makes more sense in terms of probability of success.

[brainbomb]

durga was opportunistic and deliberate but not towards you

in fact it kind of felt to me like my vote on you was lured away by someone

[brainbomb]

Meme probably town.

With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. I doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.

Still like TFB as target today

Hmmm that meme thing is a good point.

I feel like I'm going to be convinced by everything Tom says this game anyway, so I should probably just sheep him.

also Tom bomb would never be killing kgray when she is putting him as top townread

[brainbomb]

And as far as I recall durga was not going after tom bomb at all.

Tom seems least likely to be on either team

[TheFlyingBoat]

I just think you are scum on one of the two and I dont know which. I dont know if it matters entirely which you are on but you fit the mould of either.

Care to explain why you think I fit the profile? I remember being defended by you and want to know what changed in your read to make you think I'm scum now. I didn't think my updated reads were that bad

because the read was thrown together and the names on it seem forced and unconsidered

you had macca as scum with durga which just feels random and totally unlikely given that durga tried to kill macca instead of:?

Yeah that was bad, I agree, which is why my revised list doesn't have macca on Durga's team but rather with meme and ghug. That was a complete brain fart based on my top 5 scum reads and it was hastily thrown together without enough thought because I've been busy with a Diplomacy tournament every waking hour of Friday and Saturday. It wasn't forced but it was rushed.

[brainbomb]

I guess its maybe possible he was scum with durga but that doesnt feel like toms play so far at all. hes pretty serious here and menacing. not a way id feel if he were scum at all

[ghug]

Meme probably town.

With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. I doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.

Still like TFB as target today

Hmmm that meme thing is a good point.

I feel like I'm going to be convinced by everything Tom says this game anyway, so I should probably just sheep him.

also Tom bomb would never be killing kgray when she is putting him as top townread

The dead can't change their minds.

[brainbomb]

Care to explain why you think I fit the profile? I remember being defended by you and want to know what changed in your read to make you think I'm scum now. I didn't think my updated reads were that bad

because the read was thrown together and the names on it seem forced and unconsidered

you had macca as scum with durga which just feels random and totally unlikely given that durga tried to kill macca instead of:?

Yeah that was bad, I agree, which is why my revised list doesn't have macca on Durga's team but rather with meme and ghug. That was a complete brain fart based on my top 5 scum reads and it was hastily thrown together without enough thought because I've been busy with a Diplomacy tournament every waking hour of Friday and Saturday. It wasn't forced but it was rushed.

okay

[brainbomb]

yea were not killing tom bomb bud

[snowy801]

Why not?