MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[captainmeme]

If I live, kill kgray

[Durga]

This tension between Sabi and snowy is exhausting

[BesharamSabi]

This tension between Sabi and snowy is exhausting

I am also exhausted.

It's been like this since m70 and I dunno why he targets me of all people.

[Tom Bombadil]

This tension between Sabi and snowy is exhausting

It’s a match made in hell. Maybe they are on opposing scum teams and will shoot each other!

[kgray]

Why do you think lfischl consciously made such an easily disprovable statement (presumably knowing he'd look bad for it)? There must have been a really good reason for it to be so blatant, no? Why is that a more compelling solution than the simpler explanation that lfischl was oblivious and typed something dumb?

I don't think it would be obvious that he would look bad for it, and as I said, my theory was that he was trying to subtly defend ghug.

But the headline here is "massive flake attempts clever ruse with stupid lie." That doesn't pass a basic sanity check.

The only benefit to your tenacity here is that you look towny for it.

Hard disagree with your last statement. Scum!bozo does what Durga accurately pointed out bozo is doing, which is find some scumread to push and just repeatedly dig his heals in, ignoring the fact that people are pointing out his flawed logic. Really think he's scum here.

[bozotheclown]

It is obviously hard to identify the mafia when no one has to try to fabricate reads, but the players who seem most town-like to me so far are BesharamSabi, PE/Squigs, TheFlyingBoat, Macca, damo, Durga, and Foxcastle. If I am right about all of these, there are 6 scum in the following 9: brainbomb, captainmeme, CV/snowy, Fluminator, ghug, kgray, lfischl, rdrivera, and Tom.

[Foxcastle]

I don't think it would be obvious that he would look bad for it, and as I said, my theory was that he was trying to subtly defend ghug.

But the headline here is "massive flake attempts clever ruse with stupid lie." That doesn't pass a basic sanity check.

The only benefit to your tenacity here is that you look towny for it.

Hard disagree with your last statement. Scum!bozo does what Durga accurately pointed out bozo is doing, which is find some scumread to push and just repeatedly dig his heals in, ignoring the fact that people are pointing out his flawed logic. Really think he's scum here.

Except that I've seen him do it as town before, too.

[bozotheclown]

Bruh bozo you're obsessed with lfischl even though your theory about him and bona being teammates was wrong. People forget shit, what is scummy about that?

I said Bonatogether and lfischl being scum together was a possibility, I suspected lfischl for other reasons.

If you read the interactions between lfischl and ghug over lfischl's last 6 games, there is no way lfischl forgot he ever played with ghug. ghug is probably the only player who was in all 6 of those games. As a result, I suspect lfischl had some kind of motivation to make that statement.

What don't downplay it, you were pretty adamant that lfischl and bona could have been voting each other as teammates and used it as part of your justification for your lfischl scumread.

The was not the main reason I suspect lfischl, though.

[kgray]

id be down to kill squiggs tomorrow

What why. He's not even the best choice if we were going to kill a sub

because hes likely scum with sabi

forget killing ghug. brain, if i die, my last wish is that you trust me on my sabi townread and focus on finding other scumreads until at least d4.

[kgray]

This tension between Sabi and snowy is exhausting

I am also exhausted.

It's been like this since m70 and I dunno why he targets me of all people.

i mean..... you're going out of your way for it though? with that spreadsheet thing

[bozotheclown]

I don't think it would be obvious that he would look bad for it, and as I said, my theory was that he was trying to subtly defend ghug.

But the headline here is "massive flake attempts clever ruse with stupid lie." That doesn't pass a basic sanity check.

The only benefit to your tenacity here is that you look towny for it.

Hard disagree with your last statement. Scum!bozo does what Durga accurately pointed out bozo is doing, which is find some scumread to push and just repeatedly dig his heals in, ignoring the fact that people are pointing out his flawed logic. Really think he's scum here.

You haven't pointed out the flaw in my logic, and neither has lfischl. There are 6 scum out there though, so what 6 do you think are more likely to be scum than lfischl?

[brainbomb]

What why. He's not even the best choice if we were going to kill a sub

because hes likely scum with sabi

forget killing ghug. brain, if i die, my last wish is that you trust me on my sabi townread and focus on finding other scumreads until at least d4.

ill probably be voting fluminator today anyway if im alive

[kgray]

But the headline here is "massive flake attempts clever ruse with stupid lie." That doesn't pass a basic sanity check.

The only benefit to your tenacity here is that you look towny for it.

Hard disagree with your last statement. Scum!bozo does what Durga accurately pointed out bozo is doing, which is find some scumread to push and just repeatedly dig his heals in, ignoring the fact that people are pointing out his flawed logic. Really think he's scum here.

Except that I've seen him do it as town before, too.

Hmmm I feel like when he's town he's a lot more open to other people's points and doesn't get so stuck in a tunnel. He's stubborn but he considers other things as well.

[Foxcastle]

But the headline here is "massive flake attempts clever ruse with stupid lie." That doesn't pass a basic sanity check.

The only benefit to your tenacity here is that you look towny for it.

Hard disagree with your last statement. Scum!bozo does what Durga accurately pointed out bozo is doing, which is find some scumread to push and just repeatedly dig his heals in, ignoring the fact that people are pointing out his flawed logic. Really think he's scum here.

You haven't pointed out the flaw in my logic, and neither has lfischl. There are 6 scum out there though, so what 6 do you think are more likely to be scum than lfischl?

No no, we've repeatedly pointed out the flaws in your logic. You can say that you disagree with us, but you can't say that we haven't explained why we think you're wrong.

[Fluminator]

This tension between Sabi and snowy is exhausting

It’s a match made in hell. Maybe they are on opposing scum teams and will shoot each other!

Could be scum theatre

[Tom Bombadil]

This tension between Sabi and snowy is exhausting

It’s a match made in hell. Maybe they are on opposing scum teams and will shoot each other!

Could be scum theatre

It’s not. I’d be floored if they were scum teammates

[kgray]

But the headline here is "massive flake attempts clever ruse with stupid lie." That doesn't pass a basic sanity check.

The only benefit to your tenacity here is that you look towny for it.

Hard disagree with your last statement. Scum!bozo does what Durga accurately pointed out bozo is doing, which is find some scumread to push and just repeatedly dig his heals in, ignoring the fact that people are pointing out his flawed logic. Really think he's scum here.

You haven't pointed out the flaw in my logic, and neither has lfischl. There are 6 scum out there though, so what 6 do you think are more likely to be scum than lfischl?

What? I've repeatedly said that it made no sense for bona and lfischl to be voting together (and i don't care if it' wasn't the #1 reason you suspect him, you thought it was important enough to say multiple times). Plenty of other people have pointed out the flaw in your logic, I don't need to constantly repeat what they're saying. And you can't possibly think lfischl not pointing out flaws in your logic is scummy.

I have no idea if lfischl is scum, he very well could be. In fact he's in my POE. That's not my point with any of this. I've listed my reads, they haven't changed in the past few hours.

[rdrivera2005]

Why do you think lfischl consciously made such an easily disprovable statement (presumably knowing he'd look bad for it)? There must have been a really good reason for it to be so blatant, no? Why is that a more compelling solution than the simpler explanation that lfischl was oblivious and typed something dumb?

I don't think it would be obvious that he would look bad for it, and as I said, my theory was that he was trying to subtly defend ghug.

But the headline here is "massive flake attempts clever ruse with stupid lie." That doesn't pass a basic sanity check.

The only benefit to your tenacity here is that you look towny for it.

Bozo having only one scum read is scum Bozo.

If I die kill Bozo or Durga, they are the only one's that kill me N1.

[Fluminator]

It’s a match made in hell. Maybe they are on opposing scum teams and will shoot each other!

Could be scum theatre

It’s not. I’d be floored if they were scum teammates

Oh yeah, you weren't in that game

[Foxcastle]

I don't think it would be obvious that he would look bad for it, and as I said, my theory was that he was trying to subtly defend ghug.

But the headline here is "massive flake attempts clever ruse with stupid lie." That doesn't pass a basic sanity check.

The only benefit to your tenacity here is that you look towny for it.

Bozo having only one scum read is scum Bozo.

If I die kill Bozo or Durga, they are the only one's that kill me N1.

Oh, Rdr got it!