MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[snowy801]

getting major major scumvibes from bozo choosing lfischl as his most likely scum candidate

What about the read says scummy to you?

[TheFlyingBoat]

##vote theflyingboat

partially gut, partially his current wagon is majorly towny (sorry snowy) and mostly his damo vote really bothers me - and he's ignoring me scumreading him for it, and I really liked Tom's point that maybe he's trying too hard to avoid being defensive.

Hey I was gonna do that!

You didn't explain it the first time earlier, I pointed out you didn't explain it earlier and here we're again. Care to explain?

[Durga]

Well tfb, damo isn't happening, so who is your choice for a counter?

[Squigs44]

TFB do you have a scumread besides damo?

[Durga]

You and me Squigs, same wavelength, I like it.

[brainbomb]

I can see reasons why TFB is just town here and everyone is just going after lhf on a guy who is newer at playing. nothing hes said is all that magnificent but he has tried to identify reasons to lock down certain people as town for actual things that have happened

[Squigs44]

You and me Squigs, same wavelength, I like it.

This was me and ghug last game except ghug was scum pocketing me

[TheFlyingBoat]

I could see Bonatogether and lfischl being on the same scum team, voting for each other for cat related reasons, but I am still more suspicious of lfischl. I think either one would be a better DK than captainmeme, whose chance of being scum I would estimate as 6/17.

Are you telling me you don't have any town reads on anyone besides yourself to a high enough degree to knock those odds higher assuming you're trying to say meme is entirely neutral in your eyes?

[kgray]

##vote theflyingboat

partially gut, partially his current wagon is majorly towny (sorry snowy) and mostly his damo vote really bothers me - and he's ignoring me scumreading him for it, and I really liked Tom's point that maybe he's trying too hard to avoid being defensive.

When did you say you had a hard scum read on me? I was pretty sure all you said was yuck and then something to the effect of fine you made an explanation but it seems awfully convenient since he is the other person with momentum. The first one is a nothingburger and as for the second that's hardly a hard declaration of a scum read.

Anyways, there's two easy responses to that 1) I don't cast votes to save myself early in a day, especially when I don't think there's anything there to those who are scum reading me and generally call out people hard for doing that as seen in prior games when I railed on Sabi for doing that as they admitted they didn't have a scum read on the person they were voting for and did it as a momentum play. 2) The fact that I scum read damo and others did as well is easily explained by the confounding variable that at that point he seemed scummy.

All my scumreads have been excruciatingly mild so far, so 'yuck' is practically me calling you conf!scum at this point in terms of my rankings lol

Yeah I'm not sure it would be about saving yourself, more about going with an 'easy' vote. I just feel like damo's always an easy early target and I didn't see anything that was outside of his normal town game, so him being your biggest scumread (still, I think?) is a red flag for me.

[Durga]

I know you're being comparative but conf!scum? Really?

[Squigs44]

I can see reasons why TFB is just town here and everyone is just going after lhf on a guy who is newer at playing. nothing hes said is all that magnificent but he has tried to identify reasons to lock down certain people as town for actual things that have happened

We're any of these townreads original, or was it just a summary of townslips that others pointed out?

[Foxcastle]

I have kind of recovered. What have I missed?

[kgray]

getting major major scumvibes from bozo choosing lfischl as his most likely scum candidate

Why is that?

Mostly because I feel like one of your biggest scumtells is finding a person to push who won't push back much and focusing on that. And because I don't see anything that lfischl did that's remotely alignment-indicative. And you haven't commented at all on people talking about no-kills, which should be right up your ally since it's a mechs discussion, and admittedly I didn't think much of it until I realized that your top scumread is lfischl, who hasn't done much at all. And it's not like you've explained it as a POE read because everyone else is being towny. It's just low-hanging fruit and as far as I can tell completely without convincing arguments.

[Durga]

Yknow for someone who called us a bunch of losers, Chris really does look at this thread a lot

[brainbomb]

I can see reasons why TFB is just town here and everyone is just going after lhf on a guy who is newer at playing. nothing hes said is all that magnificent but he has tried to identify reasons to lock down certain people as town for actual things that have happened

We're any of these townreads original, or was it just a summary of townslips that others pointed out?

probably not original no
probably regurgitated parroting
but ive seen donny and foodcoats and others lean on the collective for how to measure their reads. and it isnt exclusively scum

[kgray]

I know you're being comparative but conf!scum? Really?

[Foxcastle]

Yknow for someone who called us a bunch of losers, Chris really does look at this thread a lot

He says he doesn't like our puerile drivel, but just can't get enough.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Well tfb, damo isn't happening, so who is your choice for a counter?

Probably Flum because I get weird vibes from him. I'll do a ISO on him after I get back from salt and straw and while I fold some laundry. Other people I'd be open to include Bozo for similar reasons, Bona because I can't remember anything from him despite posting 69 times other than that stupid cat fight with lfischl. Don't want to kill lfischl today because he has been active for his levels and I do like the idea of rewarding that hence why I am not open to either of them and just bona. Macca's idgaf attitude as you say also sent me good pings at first but then I started getting weird vibes as shit they said just really didn't make sense and there never seemed to be an effort to square the circle in my mind. Was waiting to see more from them but that hasn't happened yet either. May need to just do a reread with what we got.

[Tom Bombadil]

Lol. We just going to ignore what brain is posting? In particular, snowy - are you going to ignore the game references brain is posting about me? Do you care about his conclusions at all?

[TheFlyingBoat]

I can see reasons why TFB is just town here and everyone is just going after lhf on a guy who is newer at playing. nothing hes said is all that magnificent but he has tried to identify reasons to lock down certain people as town for actual things that have happened

We're any of these townreads original, or was it just a summary of townslips that others pointed out?

Pretty sure I was the first person on Durga's slip