MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[snowy801]

I can't believe you retracted your +1

I am a law-abiding citizen of Arstotzka and I feel compelled to follow the rules.

Doubleplusgood, comrade

[kgray]

I can't believe you retracted your +1

I am a law-abiding citizen of Arstotzka and I feel compelled to follow the rules.

You already broke them!!! You just erased the evidence after! Snowy, get her!!!

Everyone makes mistakes! I have repented.

[TheFlyingBoat]

One thing I believe for sure is I don't think we should reward lfischl for playing for the first time ever by voting him out d1

Agreed on this. He hasn't done anything that makes me think he is town like others on my do not kill D1 list, but I sure as hell am not voting for him

[Durga]

When I get this desperate and sudden urge to kill rdr on day 5 please someone stop me and remind me that my day 1 self wouldn't want this

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm going through a rollercoaster of emotions right now

I still love you.

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[Durga]

LOOOOL I fucking love that

[rdrivera2005]

When I get this desperate and sudden urge to kill rdr on day 5 please someone stop me and remind me that my day 1 self wouldn't want this

If we are both alive at D5 we will be yelling at each other pretty hard, lol.

[kgray]

Jamie you're a great GM but Rule 10 is actually distracting.

[Durga]

Yeah, please don't actually police this it doesn't make any sense lol. And I haven't been +1ing the GM out of protest but it sucks and I want to +1 the gm

[ghug]

I was going to answer you but then Tom answered before. I am tryng to get as much townreads as I can and target the not townreads. But this is based more on tone then on the hunting so it's harder.
One thing it's pretty obvious is that bussing is more unlikely in this setup as you have a small team and get zero credit.

Do you thereby believe that people will be more likely to defend their teammates? Or that this setup will simply result in the absence of bussing?

I don't think scum will openly defend a teammate in any game (I never do this as scum) but I could be wrong. I remember the game Ghug defended Damo and just get caught.

I think bussing is less likely at least a solid one (a key vote to get someone DKed). Because even if you get townread over it (and you don't get much with two Mafia) it could also just attract an NK.

Well yeah, I was hoping nobody would think I'd be that blatant, but we saw how that worked.

It does happen, just less over the top than I did it.

[snowy801]

@everyone who supports murder on day 1

So in normal games with one mafia team, the town has X amount of miskills they can make before they lose the game and that's pretty rigid. If the doctor or vig do well then sometimes you can gain an extra miskill but it's rare.
If town no-kills in a normal game, it almost always lowers the amount of miskills they can make before losing the game and that is always bad. The daykill is the only way for mafia to die so giving one of those up is always bad since we'll never get it back.

In Multi, we have no idea how many miskills we have. The last multi webdip game I think we barely killed any mafia most of the way through the game but we still won because the mafia teams shot each other to swiss.
I've been in several multi games on mafiascum and sometimes the town gets annhilated when it wasn't really their fault, and in others the mafias did all the work. I don't think I've ever seen a multi game where the game was lost on a lylo miskill. There isn't a huge loss if we don't kill on day 1, because that info will just be transferred to a later daykill, but we will have the added information of nightkill analsyis and give PRs more cover to do their thing as well.

I do not think you are accounting for M51.

What happened in M51, bozo (or anyone)?

[kgray]

Do you thereby believe that people will be more likely to defend their teammates? Or that this setup will simply result in the absence of bussing?

I don't think scum will openly defend a teammate in any game (I never do this as scum) but I could be wrong. I remember the game Ghug defended Damo and just get caught.

I think bussing is less likely at least a solid one (a key vote to get someone DKed). Because even if you get townread over it (and you don't get much with two Mafia) it could also just attract an NK.

Well yeah, I was hoping nobody would think I'd be that blatant, but we saw how that worked.

It does happen, just less over the top than I did it.

Only celaph and I can be that blatant

[Squigs44]

Do you thereby believe that people will be more likely to defend their teammates? Or that this setup will simply result in the absence of bussing?

I don't think scum will openly defend a teammate in any game (I never do this as scum) but I could be wrong. I remember the game Ghug defended Damo and just get caught.

I think bussing is less likely at least a solid one (a key vote to get someone DKed). Because even if you get townread over it (and you don't get much with two Mafia) it could also just attract an NK.

Well yeah, I was hoping nobody would think I'd be that blatant, but we saw how that worked.

It does happen, just less over the top than I did it.

Actually you protected damo last game (M1020) and it worked, so there's that

[TheFlyingBoat]

I'm going through a rollercoaster of emotions right now

I still love you.

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Rule 10 is currently in effect.
Do not +1 other players posts.
FIRST WARNING - NO PENALTY.

hahaha too good

[brainbomb]

what would the GM be able to do if we all +1 a random post by chris saying were a bunch of assholes?

dont actually do it.

but point is it would be really sad to see people get killed for indulgences

[brainbomb]

64 pages. we spent so much time talking about meaningless alliances, no kills and worst of all townslips.

you do realize most people dont even remember townslips late game and they become nothin more than a few days buffer before they get tossed out

[snowy801]

We could just you know, not make a big deal about it and just not do it

Wait sorry that's crazy ignore me

[snowy801]

I'd like to hear from people who think Tom Bomb is towny, and why.

[brainbomb]

I'd like to hear from people who think Tom Bomb is towny, and why.

I just remember town tom tended to lurk and do next to nothing other than a few sparse check in posts. he won a few games playing scum as a pedestrian. I dont feel that here

[snowy801]

I'd like to hear from people who think Tom Bomb is towny, and why.

I just remember town tom tended to lurk and do next to nothing other than a few sparse check in posts. he won a few games playing scum as a pedestrian. I dont feel that here

Is it then your assessment that Tom is tending to lurk and do next to nothing in this game? And what does pedestrian mean here?