MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

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ghug has this unique gift of triggering people just by existing

Unfortunately, this can be true. Unfortunately, I think it doesn't actually tell us anything about Ghug's alignment and anything he might have elicited from Eden is going to be swamped by speculation about whether town-Eden or scum-Eden is more likely to sub out.

I think it’s certainly NAI for ghug, but I think PE was quite towny all through the day. People jumping on him for his post about writing posts and then not posting being scummy, I think just don’t realize this is totally the strange way that PE talks in these games. A lot of his posts come across as forced (like his post with “tips” for Sabi) but it’s just genuinely how he types and thinks imo.

yeah eden was towning incredibly hard

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the people who strike me as scum so far is durga, bona, chris, flyingboat

I feel pretty good about kgray, tom bomb, foxcastle, ghug, and eden

you always scumread me

chris feels natural to me, which is relatively town for a new player in a big 2-scumteam game like this

boat man is always scum

i can't read ghug but i agree with townread for the most part

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didn't even have to wait until double digit pages


honestly probably something scum in there but i can't be bothered to find it

Isn't that convenient?

l

yeah, i got to play ck2 for a while

it was pretty nice

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for instance when a person wants to play scum as being high volume and disruptive theyll ask alot of NAI questions and delve deep into stuff unrelated to the game. Some scum will even flood the game thread with excerpts from old man and the sea when things start falling apart.

lmao

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im much more concerned with the people playing pedestrian so far who are flying under the radar of scrutiny : durga, bona, chris, flyingboat, maybe even bozo

[Squigs44]

Fox's interactions with Sabi and frustrations have me leaning town

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Hey @Flum since everyone is ignoring my alliance, I'll join yours if you agree to get them to vote no kill?

You know, if there's one game where no killing might make sense day 1, it's a multi.
Night kill analysis in multi is pretty big and gives us concrete stuff to work off and this first daykill phase feels much less important than usual.

I'll contact members of my alliance and ask if they'll agree.

Not to be an echo chamber but I will also ask huh. Flum why would not day killing help town?

I guess if I channeled this mindset it will force scum to choose to night kill who they wanted to push for day kill. I think that's the only thing we should get from doing that. Should the dayvig also not kill today in that scenario as well.

Am I seeing something you're not and if so could you please expand? Thank you.

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@everyone

On topic of dayvig, in a game where that was a role how did it work exactly?

not a dayvig role, but an item:
brain pew pewed kgray

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Fox's interactions with Sabi and frustrations have me leaning town

oh it's this guy again

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The brunt of the argument is everything we would gain from day 1, we would gain more if we transferred it to day 2, and it doesn't put as any further behind the mafia. (When it would in a normal game)

but we lose 1 dk worth of info?

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Flum do you feel town is off track currently?

I don't think we've even left the station yet

would you like to close the doors and fire up the train?

choo choo

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I call upon every responsible citizen of this state to cease this ridiculous vigilante-ism. Nobody's died yet, what crime are we even punishing?

commie-nism

[Squigs44]

Fox's interactions with Sabi and frustrations have me leaning town

oh it's this guy again

Yes hello Bona. Can you just obvtown this game so we can avoid the fiasco of last game? K thanks

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What does everyone think of Sabi's need to constantly remind us that they are honest?

I am honestly asking to get an idea on how players think they play. I rather they tell me than hear a third party meta opinion on how they play. Like I want to know if I should be annoyed all their game play is shit posting or do they put in genuine effort in the game.

I am sure if someone is being completely off based in their answer that people will jump in to correct.

Honestly tho last game everyone answer matched how they played the game.

I don't see a useful reason for anyone to not give a genuine honest answer to it but maybe I will be proven wrong.

Smacks of guilty conscience, perhaps?

foxcastle is wrong

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sabi If you look at flyingboat on the peterbot and read his posts I see alot of just general sitting back and lightly commenting on various things. the case with durga was the same up until recently I hadnt seen much other than sitting back and being very pedestrian.
bona also struck me as restrained and uninvolved so far, his posts were not pressuring nor were they questioning.
chris I am most willing to forgive in that he just seems disgusted by the negativity of the game and seems to be concerned with a certain level of decorum and circumstance.

Overall this was my first four earliest scumleans and I would add bozo to my list because hell why not have five scumleans

I feel like Sabi and Bona are town to be honest. I've seen him as scum once and it doesn't seem like he's playing like that to me.

that game was in its own category for play by me, separate from being scum and all

[Squigs44]

Bozo do you still think ghug and kgray are scum?

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sabi is town and the townslip is not why.
sabi is town because they ask questions and demand answers to them and this is obvious in the sheer amount of curiousity being shown

+1

scum!sabi will crash and burn relatively fast

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Damo hasn't given a whole lot, but what he has given feels off

in what way?

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Squigs, can you give me your initial gut feels on the following players based on your skim?

Sabi
Eden
Tom

are you dumb

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Fox's interactions with Sabi and frustrations have me leaning town

wdym? i don't see it

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Fox's interactions with Sabi and frustrations have me leaning town

oh it's this guy again

Yes hello Bona. Can you just obvtown this game so we can avoid the fiasco of last game? K thanks

i always obvtown but no one notices