M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

upon reread, not seeing a lot to townread worcej on this game (I don't know his meta). Voting explicitly for one townread (bo) to defend another townread (bona) at EOD1 is weird, and he doesn't push snowy especially hard given that the other two counterwagons are his townreads - this looks a little nonchalant for town. Specifically taking a lot of time to respond to sabi's "who would you save" question and then later calling the questions out as useless is inconsistent as well.

darg kinda just has been floating around posting things that are vaguely related to scumhunting so I feel okay voting for this slot until we get more engagement ##vote dargoyle

I tried to reread ghug's d1 but there's just so many words lmao

Great minds

Maybe snowy was right about DeathLlama also.

this post is beyond scummy

[Bonatogether]

If I am wrong and you are town, you could try being part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

Fun soundbite.

I am trying to be part of the solution.

I am looking for scum.

You are saying a lot of things which do not stack up from a rational thinking perspective.

This causes me to continue to suspect you.

Then who else do you think might be mafia besides me? Even if you were correct, there would be at least 2 others, which you have made no attempt to identify.

i hate this post

[Bonatogether]

A list of players and who I think are unlikely scum partners

SABI none
BONA Bozo Darg DL Squig
BOZO Bona DL ghug
DARG Bozo
DL Bona Bozo
GHUG Bozo
Jamie none
SQUIGS Bona

So, I guess I ought to be voting among Sabi, Jamie, Darg, ghug and Squigs.

Jamie I townread, Squigs I townlean and I guess there's no chance of a Sabi kill today. This leaves me with Darg and ghug. Interestingly they are voting each other (mutual bussing?).

Views on these 2 (darg and ghug) sought from Sabi, Bona, Jamie and Squigs please.

Thanks.

How do you read this list?

[dargorygel]

You don't think you warrant some pressure at potential KILO after having not really played since you subbed in?

While I hope it doesn't END this way, sure. I'm not upset about the pressure. It usually happens. Some are able to read me, vecna, kgray, brain, and i THOUGHT you...

I also do not think that I 'haven't' played. I do not play like you, no.

You didn't commit to any reads, participate in EoD, or talk that much outside of some generic meta discussion N2. What conclusions are people supposed to be drawing from that?

I committed to bona, who was my strong read. I also gave reads without the official title... I spoke when I was around, and did take part in conversations when I had something beyond, 'that's a good point.' Such as how many scum are present. I wrote about damo (i've since changed my stated view.) I did talk about meta, because I was asked how I scumhunt. I didn't take part at EoD because i was not AROUND at EoD. fwiw, bona noticed that I was displaying towniness.

No, it is not your style of doing those things. It's not alignment indicative.

[Bonatogether]

Good morning puppies!

Just reading and what not.

Do you think bozo kills celaph? What would it say about who his teammates are?

idk that specific nk analysis, but imo, if they're killing lower-townread people, it means they can't kill more townread people for whatever reason - either them being wrong or them being scum

it means they can't kill more townread people for whatever reason - either them being wrong or them being scum

What does this mean Bona? Who is wrong in this context?

It means that scum can't kill more-townread people (higher up in the list of town) if they are, in fact, those more-townread people, so they would have to nk less-townread people (lower down on the list)

[Bonatogether]

Now is a good time for everyone to state their best guess at 3 scum and 4 scum mafia teams:

1. bozo: ghug/damo/Jamie, ghug/damo/Jamie/BesharamSabi

why?

[Bonatogether]

A list of players and who I think are unlikely scum partners

SABI none
BONA Bozo Darg DL Squig
BOZO Bona DL ghug
DARG Bozo Bona
DL Bona Bozo
GHUG Bozo
Jamie none
SQUIGS Bona

Tidied this up.

0 Sabi, Jamie
1 ghug, Squigs
2 darg, DL
3 Bozo
4 Bona

what does this mean?

[dargorygel]

Great minds

Maybe snowy was right about DeathLlama also.

this post is beyond scummy

Which part? Why?

[dargorygel]

Now is a good time for everyone to state their best guess at 3 scum and 4 scum mafia teams:

1. bozo: ghug/damo/Jamie, ghug/damo/Jamie/BesharamSabi

why?

I'll add my voice to this question... assuming you are asking, 'why is NOW the time?'

[Bonatogether]

Perhaps I have spent too much time watching games from outside, as Kouncil or co-GM. But i watch, and jump in when i have something worthwhile to say. I think I have had things to offer this game. No master plans, no elaborate tinfoil hats, no mathematical presentations... but that is normal for me.

How are we supposed to distinguish this from scum doing the same thing?

For me, when I have been scum I interact less... But I admit it IS hard to distinguish. Which is why I have a lot of misskills.

i scum you now

[dargorygel]

You are in my smaller pool of PoE, but my vote is based also on connections as well as how the wagons are currently sitting and where I'd like to see pressure

What are the connections between darg and damo/bozo?

It's more the lack of connections, I guess. Darg fits in a scumteam with damo/bozo (and several others) because he doesn't have any interactions that prevent him from being teammates with them

You do not think folk can (or do) bus? (I am not responding to your idea of my possible teammates... but rather about the premise of your list.

If you are simply grabbing at what info we DO have in a vanilla game, I get it. But it seems you are exaggerating the 'sureness' of it.

[Bonatogether]

You don't think you warrant some pressure at potential KILO after having not really played since you subbed in?

Who rescued bona? What would you expect town bozo to be doing here?

I do not really know who rescued... you, for one, had movements that seem suspect. I do not think the ones who announced s=they were saving to be scum. But Over the day, it appears to me that as bona grew, oppositions grew.

I also found his day 1 night 1 arguments to be un-bona. He has improved, imo.

what the hell does un-bona mean? it is definitionally bona

[dargorygel]

How are we supposed to distinguish this from scum doing the same thing?

For me, when I have been scum I interact less... But I admit it IS hard to distinguish. Which is why I have a lot of misskills.

i scum you now

Ah, ok... I retract that bit of evidence.
You thought I WAS townie though... why did you change your mind?

[Bonatogether]

why are you just quoting this post? did you change something that i haven't noticed?

[DeathLlama8]

why are you just quoting this post? did you change something that i haven't noticed?

sabi's pronouns

[dargorygel]

How are we supposed to distinguish this from scum doing the same thing?

For me, when I have been scum I interact less... But I admit it IS hard to distinguish. Which is why I have a lot of misskills.

i scum you now

Let me rephrase... You saw my N's discussion as townie, and expressed joy in it. Ok, that's an overstatement. But I am defending my 'style,' and you thought at first that it was ok, right?

[Bonatogether]

While I hope it doesn't END this way, sure. I'm not upset about the pressure. It usually happens. Some are able to read me, vecna, kgray, brain, and i THOUGHT you...

I also do not think that I 'haven't' played. I do not play like you, no.

You didn't commit to any reads, participate in EoD, or talk that much outside of some generic meta discussion N2. What conclusions are people supposed to be drawing from that?

I committed to bona, who was my strong read. I also gave reads without the official title... I spoke when I was around, and did take part in conversations when I had something beyond, 'that's a good point.' Such as how many scum are present. I wrote about damo (i've since changed my stated view.) I did talk about meta, because I was asked how I scumhunt. I didn't take part at EoD because i was not AROUND at EoD. fwiw, bona noticed that I was displaying towniness.

No, it is not your style of doing those things. It's not alignment indicative.

i townleaned you after your series of posts on some players (idr who) but you've done nothing much else since.

[Jamiet99uk]

Discussion point:

It might be MyLo right now.

Is there a case for voting No Kill?

[DeathLlama8]

Discussion point:

It might be MyLo right now.

Is there a case for voting No Kill?

wdym there's 9 players left?

[DeathLlama8]

if there's four scum and we vote no kill we die
if there's three scum and we vote no kill we lose a MK for no reason